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Blamestorm
Aug 14, 2004

We LOL at death! Watch us LOL. Love the LOL.
It's all very well to laugh at Dutton's leadership aspirations but I did the same about Abbott in the Howard years and boy didn't I look stupid when we elected him PM.

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hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
For what was a political exercise, gently caress I'm glad of the trade union royal commission, gently caress these lovely corrupt fucks.

Federal ICAC now.

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
Howard was in for a really long time and packed the parliamentary party with his loyalists who were mostly incapable of thinking on their own. This paucity of talent is why potatoes like Dutton got mentioned as leadership material.

New talent is slowly making its way in - I'd use Christian Porter, the former WA Treasurer/AG as an example.

Once Turnbull wins an election he will have a freer hand to drop all the dead wood.

The old Howard hands must know that time is not on their side, the numbers will only get worse as more people get Mirabella'd.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Make Tony a full time volunteer fire fighter. Pay him with cups of tea n Tim Tam's.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



He's been running around trying to get the rules for preselections changed too. For what possible reasons I can't imagine. :rolleyes:

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

SynthOrange posted:

'The revolving door in Australian politics must be jammed shut' - Joe Hockey

"After I've gone through hahahaha suckers"

Les Affaires posted:

They dont' go finding board positions for just anybody who leaves parliament, they do it for people they need to be kept busy so they don't agitate for change.

Wouldn't it be kinder to put him down? :fork:

Blamestorm posted:

It's all very well to laugh at Dutton's leadership aspirations but I did the same about Abbott in the Howard years and boy didn't I look stupid when we elected him PM.

He can only become a bigger potato. If he got to be PM that would be the actual death of the LNP, they're not that desperate. Although Deputy PM would be the LNP's way of saying gently caress You to the Nationals.

Les Affaires
Nov 15, 2004

katlington posted:

He's been running around trying to get the rules for preselections changed too. For what possible reasons I can't imagine. :rolleyes:

Who has? Source?

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

The new education minister, Simon Birmingham, has confirmed the $4m funding for Bjorn Lomborg’s “Consensus Centre” has been withdrawn. In Senate estimates, Birmingham said it was one of the last acts of his predecessor, Christopher Pyne.

laffo

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He fixed it

Les Affaires
Nov 15, 2004

SynthOrange posted:

The new education minister, Simon Birmingham, has confirmed the $4m funding for Bjorn Lomborg’s “Consensus Centre” has been withdrawn. In Senate estimates, Birmingham said it was one of the last acts of his predecessor, Christopher Pyne.

laffo

Shows two things. We now know whose idea it was, and we can yet again confirm that Christopher Pyne's ambition makes his personal philosophy as flexible as a piece of string.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Lid posted:

Yay organised crime

I have trouble imagining organized-anything in Australia.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Has this been posted yet?

15 things you should know about Australia’s love affair with pokies

http://theconversation.com/15-things-you-should-know-about-australias-love-affair-with-pokies-49230

quote:

Poker machines were legalised in New South Wales in 1956; the ACT in 1976; Victoria and Queensland in 1991; South Australia in 1992; Tasmania in 1997; and the Northern Territory in 1998. They are banned in Western Australia, except in the casino.

There are 196,900 poker machines in Australia; 95,012 are in NSW, with a further 46,663 in Queensland and 28,860 in Victoria. In comparison, there are just 16,440 pokies in New Zealand and 97,161 in Canada.

Australia has the most poker machines per person of any country in the world (excluding gambling destinations dominated by the casino industry like Macau and Monaco), with one machine for every 114 people.

In 2013–14, Australians lost A$11 billion on poker machines in clubs and hotels. A further A$1.5 billion is estimated to have been lost on poker machines in casinos. That’s a total of around A$700 per adult per year.

Australians lose more on gambling than any other nation, mostly because of poker machines. In 2014, Australians lost more than US$1100 per capita, compared with less than US$600 in New Zealand and the US, and less than US$500 in Canada and Britain.

In 2013–14, state and territory governments raised A$3.2 billion in taxes on poker machines in clubs and hotels – that’s 5% of state-levied tax revenue.

Between 20% and 30% of Australian adults play poker machines at least once a year (except in Western Australia). The 4% who play weekly are conservatively estimated to lose an average of A$7000 to A$8000 per year.

It’s easy to lose A$1500 per hour playing poker machines at their maximum bet size and maximum speed. Because poker machine returns are unpredictable over the short term, gamblers playing in this way could lose a greater or lesser amount.

The average poker machine in clubs and hotels makes A$56,000 per year. Some machines are much more profitable, with pokies in several venues in Victoria making more than A$200,000 each.

Poker machines have minted a select few super rich, such as James Packer (net worth A$6,080 million), Len Ainsworth (net worth A$1,840 million), Bruce Mathieson (net worth A$1,160 million), Arthur Laundy (net worth A$310 million) and the Farrell family (net worth A$275 million).

Poker machines are concentrated in Australia’s poorest suburbs. In Western Sydney’s relatively impoverished Fairfield, each adult lost an average of A$2340 on the pokies in 2010-11; in wealthy Ku-ring-gai and Willoughby, poker machine losses were just A$270 per adult.

In 2010, the Productivity Commission estimated that there were around 115,000 “problem gamblers” in Australia, who account for 40% of losses on poker machines. People who live closer to poker machine venues are more likely to experience gambling problems.

Around 30% of people who play poker machines weekly are problem gamblers or are “at risk” of becoming problem gamblers. In WA, where poker machines are only allowed inside the casino, the rate of problem gambling is one-third of that in the rest of the country.

Aside from banning poker machines outside casinos, the most promising harm-minimisation measures include reducing maximum bet limits and requiring gamblers to set a limit before they begin playing (pre-commitment).

Poker machine reform is popular in Australia: 70% of people agree that gambling should be more tightly controlled and 74% agree that people should be limited to spending an amount they nominate before they start gambling.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Les Affaires posted:

Who has? Source?

Abbott, to make lib preselection a plebiscite.I can't find where I read it originally, here's another article about it.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Halo14 posted:

Has this been posted yet?

15 things you should know about Australia’s love affair with pokies

http://theconversation.com/15-things-you-should-know-about-australias-love-affair-with-pokies-49230

This article should have cat gifs and be on buzzfeed.

trunkh
Jan 31, 2011



Jumpingmanjim posted:

This article should have cat gifs and be on buzzfeed.

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if a reworded article containing just that ends up on there. Buzzfeed contributors are like human parrots after all.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

Jumpingmanjim posted:

This article should have cat gifs and be on buzzfeed.

Cat gifs might make it a little less depressing, yeah.

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman
Blows my mind that we don't have RSA but for gambling. But what do I know, I live in WA

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
We do. Its called RSG.

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil
They tried to implement it, but it got revoked when the cross bench lost power.

Personally I think that they should include gambling revenue in the gst distribution, and make it least 1:1 so that every dollar a government makes in gambling they lose a dollar or more in GST. (Currently it's not included at all unlike mining revenue for those unaware)

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
If you go to Northbridge they won't sell you a double of anything, but you can buy two single shots. That's how effective "responsible" service of alcohol is.

Les Affaires
Nov 15, 2004

I'll have a shot of sambuca, and a shot of sambuca, as well as a shot of sambuca, and my mate wants a shot of sambuca. thanks.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

Negligent posted:

If you go to Northbridge they won't sell you a double of anything, but you can buy two single shots. That's how effective "responsible" service of alcohol is.

My local is next to a railway. Every time a train goes past, $1 shots of random leftover bits of spirits mixed with some cordial.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
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LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Zenithe posted:

My local is next to a railway. Every time a train goes past, $1 shots of random leftover bits of spirits mixed with some cordial.

Sounds like a few Engineering dept parties I've been to.

GrandTheftAutism
Dec 24, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Anidav posted:

We do. Its called RSG.

RCG. Responsible Conduct of Gambling (though I did mine a few years ago now, it could have changed since then)

spidjod
May 15, 2003

Justice!
The RCG is the most pointless and toothless of initiatives, basically even if you see someone has a gambling issue you cant do anything about it, its all about 'harm minimisation' aka having leaflets and signs on display. You may as well do nothing for all the good it does

Magog
Jan 9, 2010

ScreamingLlama posted:

RCG. Responsible Conduct of Gambling (though I did mine a few years ago now, it could have changed since then)

You got it dude.

The key difference between the RSA and the RCG is that in the RSA course you are told all about how you have a responsibility to refuse service, whereas with the RCG you are told how much not to interfere except in a very limited way.

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Aug 17, 2004

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spidjod posted:

The RCG is the most pointless and toothless of initiatives, basically even if you see someone has a gambling issue you cant do anything about it, its all about 'harm minimisation' aka having leaflets and signs on display. You may as well do nothing for all the good it does

Wouldn't want to harm the profits of any donors.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

ScreamingLlama posted:

RCG. Responsible Conduct of Gambling (though I did mine a few years ago now, it could have changed since then)

asmr

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Speaking of which, just saw a sign outside the pub saying Pokies are now guaranteed to be open til 3:30AM :australia:

Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Speaking of which, just saw a sign outside the pub saying Pokies are now guaranteed to be open til 3:30AM :australia:

imo, blow them up

Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip
doing the rcg was one of the more soul crushing parts of my life

like I got the certificate and was just like "I can never use this"

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
itt correcting people from different states on acronyms which differ from state to state

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
In Queensland it's called RSG

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Anidav posted:

In Queensland it's called RSG

In NSW they're called RSL's and they love pokies.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
No I mean responsible service of gaming training.

Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip

Solemn Sloth posted:

itt correcting people from different states on acronyms which differ from state to state

that state is queensland to be fair

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Queensland is a good state with good people.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

Anidav posted:

Queensland is a good state with good people.

[citation needed]

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
http://www.beststate.qld.gov.au

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GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug
I would have laughed more if that was a real webpage.

Step up your game, QLD.

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