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Mazed posted:Yet Kuja is the best main villain in the FF series hands-down, because of how much of his butt we can see. You know it to be true. I made this to prove it.  Nothing at all! Nothing at all! Nothing at all!
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Kuja's design has gone 200% David Bowie because he is truly Amano's legacy.
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Oct 22, 2015 18:20
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Fabulousvillain posted:Kuja's design has gone 200% David Bowie because he is truly Amano's legacy.
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Oct 22, 2015 18:23
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Winklebottom posted:I made this to prove it. This is excellent. 
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Oct 22, 2015 18:52
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Squalitude posted:she should at least murdered Quina, it would give him some meaning in the game! But then who would she murder that's completely and utterly disposable otherwise if you, like me the first time through, never bothered to get Quina here? Because they're entirely optional at this point. There's absolutely no reason to enter the marsh other than to get Quina and if you don't know they even exist that's not going to happen. Zidane? Oh wait, protagonist immunity. Vivi? Most likely deuteragonist and kind of super important to the overall plot right now to the point that even Kuja realises it. Also a child. Freya? Dude, please, this is kind of her plot arc right now.
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Oct 22, 2015 18:53
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Winklebottom posted:You know it to be true.   goddamn buttflaps
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Oct 22, 2015 19:02
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I don't know what you're all talking about with Quina being disposable. Quina is the only character besides Zidane that this game never forgets about.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:05
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ZiegeDame posted:I don't know what you're all talking about with Quina being disposable. Quina is the only character besides Zidane that this game never forgets about.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:09
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personally on Kuja, Final Fantasy is constantly giving you female party members that parade around in underwear and recently in Final Fantasy XV they dressed up a male party member more because he made the male audience uncomfortable, so I'm all forletting Kuja going outside wearing that, especially if he's going to be an awesome character you fear and respect on top of that.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:13
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Acne Rain posted:I'm all forletting Kuja going outside wearing that, And in the rain too! He'll catch his death...
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Acne Rain posted:personally on Kuja, Final Fantasy is constantly giving you female party members that parade around in underwear and recently in Final Fantasy XV they dressed up a male party member more because he made the male audience uncomfortable, so I'm all forletting Kuja going outside wearing that, especially if he's going to be an awesome character you fear and respect on top of that. Wait, which FFXV character? I know they covered up the protagonist from FF Mobius - following feedback.  The only things I recall regarding changes in XV is actually making one of the male characters bare-chested (having originally worn a shirt), and toning down the breast jiggle physics of a female NPC because even the director thought it was "a bit much". Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Oct 22, 2015 |
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Oct 22, 2015 19:23
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Probably him, then, I'm not much of a final fantasy guy and have a bad memory.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:24
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Kuja is extremely cool and I wish to be as beautiful as him one day.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:42
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Acne Rain posted:personally on Kuja, Final Fantasy is constantly giving you female party members that parade around in underwear What are you even talking about, you either use the term "underwear" very broadly or you've been playing a different series because the majority of FF games don't match that description at all.
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It's basically just Rikku.
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I was going off a half remembered blog post and selectively remembering a few characters so I'm probably just wrong, sorry, I do not want a horrible derail over which female characters were dressed appropriately or not
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Dragonatrix posted:But then who would she murder that's completely and utterly disposable otherwise if you, like me the first time through, never bothered to get Quina here? Because they're entirely optional at this point. There's absolutely no reason to enter the marsh other than to get Quina and if you don't know they even exist that's not going to happen. I would have and would still fully endorse if the games design forced you to get Quina, had Beatrix kill Quina in Burmecia, and then have Quina show up again later in the game when the game does force you to recruit her. Have Zidane and the team internally freak out a bit, but have Quina be completely oblivious to any previous actions.
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Sum Mors posted:I would have and would still fully endorse if the games design forced you to get Quina, had Beatrix kill Quina in Burmecia, and then have Quina show up again later in the game when the game does force you to recruit her. Have Zidane and the team internally freak out a bit, but have Quina be completely oblivious to any previous actions. Every disc should end with Quina dying then in the next have the party meeting a new Quina when you go through a Marsh.
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Lavender menace posted:Every disc should end with Quina dying then in the next have the party meeting a new Quina when you go through a Marsh. Quina is pretty loving hardy, plot wise. Seriously, the bitch is a tank
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I don't know if you'd call this fan art accompanying the LP, but the LP inspired me to review this game's first disc! This was one of my favorite videos to make because I put some slight silly poo poo in there and FFIX is way more important to me than I realized. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7HqgAWHnWY
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AlphaKretin posted:I'm on phone or I'd grab that picture of Nooj that popped up in the FFVII thread. Remember the artist we're talking about here. If there's even such thing as dumbest, not wearing much does not cut it. Ah, Nooj. I'm not sure who has the best hair, him or Seymour...  And we can't forget Leblanc! 
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Oct 22, 2015 22:33
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Hymirvetr posted:It's basically just Rikku. Hey. That was a swimsuit. And a scarf for good taste.
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Oct 22, 2015 22:35
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Wow, so much awesome stuff. Updated the second post with said awesome stuff. Will likely go back later and add Simple Simon's guide posts as well since his commentary on those are pretty entertaining.
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Mazed posted:Hey. Actually, she wears a swimsuit if you get a certain scene in Gagazet. She actually puts more clothes on.
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Oct 22, 2015 22:57
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I for one pray that the day I feel that I'm not dressed enough for swimming never comes.
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Acne Rain posted:personally on Kuja, Final Fantasy is constantly giving you female party members that parade around in underwear and recently in Final Fantasy XV they dressed up a male party member more because he made the male audience uncomfortable, so I'm all forletting Kuja going outside wearing that, especially if he's going to be an awesome character you fear and respect on top of that. Can honestly say that never happened when I played the game; I mostly just found Kuja annoying as hell. 
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W.T. Fits posted:Can honestly say that never happened when I played the game; I mostly just found Kuja annoying as hell. The things around him I have feared and respected, but Kuja only got that once.
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Oct 23, 2015 01:51
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Hey, come on now. Kuja's theatrical, but he's certainly menacing.
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Oct 23, 2015 01:57
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Hey, come on now. Kuja's theatrical, but he's certainly menacing. I must respectfully disagree; he comes across to me like watered down hybrid of Kefka and Sephiroth, and ends up failing to capture the essence of what made those two such good villains (and I'm not all that fond of Sephiroth, either, when it comes down to it).
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W.T. Fits posted:I must respectfully disagree; he comes across to me like watered down hybrid of Kefka and Sephiroth, and ends up failing to capture the essence of what made those two such good villains (and I'm not all that fond of Sephiroth, either, when it comes down to it). I agree with you, the main thing I see about Kuja being a budget villain would be drifting off to spoilers. The simplest thing I can think of that doesn't go in that direction is how that scene played out. Beatrix curbstomped you because she was challenged by some ignorant peon and you ruined her n00b-griefing fun. Kuja somehow provided Black Mages. Kind of evil yeah, but Hojo-tier or Dr. Lugae evil at this point of the game. Sure some of the party might have a valid personal grudge against someone like that, but at the moment? meh.
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FeyerbrandX posted:I agree with you, the main thing I see about Kuja being a budget villain would be drifting off to spoilers. Plus he kind of directly acknowledges that the party will be a thorn in their side for a while to come and then just walks off instead of offing them. And then he flies off on a dragon because he's a special snowflake and better than the rest of the bad guys. I prefer Brahne. So far she just seems like a horrible, gluttonous person that just so happens to be ruling a country. You know, that good old sensible evil present in the real world.
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Kuja is an excellently scored antagonist. I can say that much right now.
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A lot of the stuff Kuja does makes a lot more sense later on when you've got a better grasp of his personality, and I don't mean that in a "I will spare these people because they're so far beneath me they don't matter" kind of way.
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FeyerbrandX posted:I agree with you, the main thing I see about Kuja being a budget villain would be drifting off to spoilers. Kuja ain't got poo poo on Lord Yuna. All my hate. 
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The Oak Staff is the reason it's not really worth it to try to steal the Ice Staff, because you can get it immediately afterwards. Bio completely outclasses Blizzara, even against ice-weak enemies, because hitting a weakness doesn't ignore defense. Blizzara is only slightly better if you're hitting an ice-weak enemy AND Vivi is wearing an ice-boosting item. Also the fact that stop and petrify cause you to lose out on the rewards from the enemy means that they're useless outside of avoiding XP from forced battles in a low-level run. If you only care about eliminating the enemies and don't care about XP/gil/items, there's already a much better ability. It has 100% accuracy, no MP cost, hits every enemy on the field, and Zidane learns it right at the beginning of the game.
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I'm betting Stop is going to be really drat useful for getting AP in the low-level run, too. And maybe one other thing. (Not plot related at all, but the ability hasn't come up in the LP yet)Does Stop/Petrify count as a kill for Dragon's Crest?
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ZiegeDame posted:Does Stop/Petrify count I'm not sure if Stop qualifies since the enemy remains on the field, but Petrify most certainly does. FeyerbrandX posted:Kuja somehow provided Black Mages. Kind of evil yeah, but Hojo-tier or Dr. Lugae evil at this point of the game. Sure some of the party might have a valid personal grudge against someone like that, but at the moment? meh. Kuja is basically easier to swallow once you realize he's exactly what would happen if Destro somehow got really hyped for Shakespeare plays and decided to become the most flamboyant peacock alive.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Kuja ain't got poo poo on Lord Yuna. And that's why I did not include that monster on my list of "trivial middle-management level jerk face scientists"
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I for one am confident that this villain we have seen for all of an eighth of an update will turn out to be more interesting once he shows up for longer than it takes to heat up a can of soup.
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FeyerbrandX posted:And that's why I did not include that monster on my list of "trivial middle-management level jerk face scientists" Hojo is arguably the real villain of FFVII, as everything is his fault. He's the one who decided to build his son out of spare parts from John Carpenter's The Thing.
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