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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Medullah posted:

Though really, look at Makeb. Who was the hero of that storyline?

The Republic story is actually significantly more heroic on Makeb.

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jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


Ainsley McTree posted:

If you think about it, the empire is actually the good side in this story, if you ignore the part about slavery and how it's ruled by a council of evil wizards

It's not slavery, it's a work to get to live program. One of the most successful programs in the history of the Empire I might add.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The new cartel pack setup is pretty crappy. Prices on the rare stuff are stupidly high.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Aphrodite posted:

The new cartel pack setup is pretty crappy. Prices on the rare stuff are stupidly high.

Working as intended

jabro posted:

It's not slavery, it's a work to get to live program. One of the most successful programs in the history of the Empire I might add.


Need to work on your marketing.

It's our "Right to live" policies.

Aleth
Aug 2, 2008

Pillbug
I can't really play until Saturday evening so FE will have to wait until then, but in the meantime I'm entertaining myself with all the tears on the official forums. So many bitter, salty tears about their precious companions. :xcom:

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Dexo posted:

Need to work on your marketing.

It's our "Right to live" policies.



.@continetti @DouthatNYT Needless to say, I was rooting for the Empire from the first moment. It was a benevolent liberal empire, after all.

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) October 20, 2015

.@adesnik @DouthatNYT No objective evidence Empire was "evil." A liberal regime w meritocracy, upward mobility. Neocon/reformicon in spirit.

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) October 20, 2015

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Dexo posted:

Working as intended

It's nice that they're upgraded the rarities. It's just that this particular pack put the only good stuff (except the log) as rares.

Also I'm mad that they hosed up the old companion terminal (and didn't fix it today) so I can't get my god drat Akk Dog :(

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
The Akk dog is the ultimate example of the game going single player. Cosmetics have always been popular and expensive but this one is amazing. Unlike mounts, pets and armor, this one can literally only be used alone or in a very small group, yet the only one I saw was 50 million on the GTN. Crazy.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

I used mine immediately because I knew if I saw the prices first, I would have a serious dilemma.



:suicide:

Nerd Of Prey
Aug 10, 2002


Re: running heroics solo... I'm sure it's possible and not even hard, but if you CAN bring a friend, you SHOULD bring a friend, because the increased rewards for grouping are significant.

Also, I want to reiterate that they're just as worthwhile when you're at level 65, because for each turn-in you get a pile of different data crystals AND one of those purple boxes that you turn in on Odessen for influence and a random box of legacy gear.

Also, if you like the handful of recruitment missions you get at the end of chapter 9, go and run the Star Fortress flashpoint! Doing it once unlocks a BUNCH more recruitment missions, each with a unique new alien companion as a reward. I did the one on Alderaan and got an Ithorian Jedi buddy. My friend did Nar Shaddaa (I think) and got a Nautolan.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
The Star Fortress achievements and rewards are so freaking complex my mind exploded trying to read up on it. DEFINITELY not an alt friendly system, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. People may be more inclined to pick a main and run with it and group with others.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
We should try and get an Ops group together for Storymode or HM EV or something

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Speaking of incentives to stick to a main: I'd literally murder a baby for the ability to save quickbar/utility setups within a class, so I could easily swap between tank & dps specs on my jugg without having to move buttons around every time. As it is, it's easier to just swap to a different character.

It's miles above how things were back in the days of skill trees, but I'd still love it if it were even more friendly.

Waffledoodle, a baby's life is in your hands

Nerd Of Prey
Aug 10, 2002


Medullah posted:

The Star Fortress achievements and rewards are so freaking complex my mind exploded trying to read up on it. DEFINITELY not an alt friendly system, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. People may be more inclined to pick a main and run with it and group with others.

I meant to say, I've really been enjoying having one main character being the big drat hero and doing everything. I have a ridiculous number of alts, but I don't really plan to do the new story on all of them. Seems like there are a million other ways to get XP now.

It really seems like the Jedi Knight and Sith Warrior have by far the biggest personal stake in confronting the Emperor. For most other classes I feel like it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to become THE HIGHLANDER.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
I've found it best to just get used to certain keybinds being special moves so there's only a little rearranging to do. For example, when my assassin is in Hatred 3 is Creeping Terror, 8 is Death Field, then it becomes 3 is Dark Ward and 8 is Wither in Darkness spec. Easier with some classes than others (going from Lethality to Medicine is a nightmare) but works well for the moment.

One of these days I'll redo my AHK respec scripts. That way they'll introduce it onto the game right when I've wasted hours.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Nerd Of Prey posted:

I meant to say, I've really been enjoying having one main character being the big drat hero and doing everything. I have a ridiculous number of alts, but I don't really plan to do the new story on all of them. Seems like there are a million other ways to get XP now.

It really seems like the Jedi Knight and Sith Warrior have by far the biggest personal stake in confronting the Emperor. For most other classes I feel like it doesn't make a

Nerd Of Prey posted:

I meant to say, I've really been enjoying having one main character being the big drat hero and doing everything. I have a ridiculous number of alts, but I don't really plan to do the new story on all of them. Seems like there are a million other ways to get XP now.

It really seems like the Jedi Knight and Sith Warrior have by far the biggest personal stake in confronting the Emperor. For most other classes I feel like it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to become THE HIGHLANDER.

Yeah my Merc hit 65 doing - CZ-198 weekly, a tactical, picking up droids on new planet, and then a last boss only Terror From Beyond where we wiped 3 times. The tentacles were like 60k each haha.

SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012

Nerd Of Prey posted:

It really seems like the Jedi Knight and Sith Warrior have by far the biggest personal stake in confronting the Emperor. For most other classes I feel like it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to become THE HIGHLANDER.

I ran through the story first with my Bounty Hunter figuring it would be the best way to get ready for raiding again, but so far from the sounds of it I should have gone with my jugg. The story is good, but the BH doesn't really seem to mesh with the drama of the plot.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Smuggler still owns to play through it by the way, they retain their ability to make a snarky comment about everything.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!
Are datacrons the little pickups dotted around the map you have to platform to?

Keshik
Oct 27, 2000

Ok guys so there's an Alliance quest to recruit Doctor Lokin and it requires a loving shitload of Grade 8 medical stuff unless you're an Agent.

What you want is:

  • Anodyne Extract
  • Metamorphic Cell Cultures
  • Hemostatic Gel
  • Autoimmune Regulator

Stock up now, sell for big profits next week.

Be warned that the second phase of the quest requires the Rakghoul Resurgence event no matter what so don't blow your cash if someone else has cornered the market, you can farm them up casually until November 10.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
I did Inquisitor and it makes me a bit sad that they didn't do (Inquisitor and KOTFE story spoilers) any references to him having experience with ghosts in his head. I DID love that they called me Darth Imperious though. I chose light side and released the ghosts are the end of his story, I imagine if I'd done dark side and kept them Valykorian might be a bit crowded in my head

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Keshik posted:

Ok guys so there's an Alliance quest to recruit Doctor Lokin and it requires a loving shitload of Grade 8 medical stuff unless you're an Agent.

What you want is:

  • Anodyne Extract
  • Metamorphic Cell Cultures
  • Hemostatic Gel
  • Autoimmune Regulator

Stock up now, sell for big profits next week.

Be warned that the second phase of the quest requires the Rakghoul Resurgence event no matter what so don't blow your cash if someone else has cornered the market, you can farm them up casually until November 10.

You also can use the rare drops from the Eyeless and Elites (Barnacle of the Eyeless and Symbiotic Fungal Bloom) for a ton of points.

Bummed that I vendored literally 15 stacks of the blue medical supplies last week ha-ha.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Medullah posted:

I did Inquisitor and it makes me a bit sad that they didn't do (Inquisitor and KOTFE story spoilers) any references to him having experience with ghosts in his head. I DID love that they called me Darth Imperious though. I chose light side and released the ghosts are the end of his story, I imagine if I'd done dark side and kept them Valykorian might be a bit crowded in my head

There actually is a quick line about it.

I don't remember the details and it might only be with a specific conversation option, but you do say something about having planned to absorb him.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Aphrodite posted:

There actually is a quick line about it.

I don't remember the details and it might only be with a specific conversation option, but you do say something about having planned to absorb him.

Nice, must have missed it. What I get for burning through it all in one day. :poopsocker:

Mercurius
May 4, 2004

Amp it up.

Nerd Of Prey posted:

It really seems like the Jedi Knight and Sith Warrior have by far the biggest personal stake in confronting the Emperor. For most other classes I feel like it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to become THE HIGHLANDER.
Really happy to hear that because of all my characters my LS Juggernaut is my favourite to play.

It's also good to hear that there's lots of other ways to get experience than doing the story because I doubt I'll want to do it more than a couple of times per faction but I'd still like to be able to use my other alts for stuff.

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

I've been trying to use the 12x bonus to get all the different stories done. I was able to get 3 down and was working on a 4th. Now that's it's gone I noticed that there was a sort of new leveling system. Can anyone explain how it works or if it's different? I like the game a lot, but always felt like it became a slog after a while because it took so long to kill anything, but that was gone with the 12x thing. Is it easier to kill things now?

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Spikeguy posted:

I've been trying to use the 12x bonus to get all the different stories done. I was able to get 3 down and was working on a 4th. Now that's it's gone I noticed that there was a sort of new leveling system. Can anyone explain how it works or if it's different? I like the game a lot, but always felt like it became a slog after a while because it took so long to kill anything, but that was gone with the 12x thing. Is it easier to kill things now?

According to the 4.0 patch notes, you should be able to level to 50 just by doing your class quests for each planet along with the planetary quest line, each of which will apparently have its own icon so you can distinguish it from other quests.

Also, level scaling will make it so that you can revisit bonus series quests on previous planets AND get level-appropriate XP for doing them.

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


I wouldn't be surprised if you could hit 65 before wrapping up Chapter 1 the way exp rolls in now.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Hey if I take my agent into KOTFE once it opens up will I be able to get all my companions back yet?

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

Great. I am one of those lowly folks who wants to play the game by themselves. I used to dream of maybe one day when the servers get shutdown, they just convert the game to a singleplayer thing as a farewell. But if they make leveling easier, me able to make every companion a heal bot and enemies less of bullet spunges then it sounds like I'll be playing more.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

StashAugustine posted:

Hey if I take my agent into KOTFE once it opens up will I be able to get all my companions back yet?

KOTFE spoilers nope.

Bigger end of KOTFE chapter 9 spoilers if you really must know You'll encounter one companion and recruit them during the course of the story, and another you'll recruit after.

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

Another question, I've been watching some LPs of the new expansion and was wondering if the sense change much for Trooper/Bounty Hunter classes. They seem so specific to Jedi/Sith players.

Promethium
Dec 31, 2009
Dinosaur Gum
The Core World Changes dev blog explains it in detail, but basically you are expected to stay on level when doing the "critical path", which is your class quests, the main planetary questline (note that the starter planets and the capital world of each faction don't have a main questline so the critical path there will be more sidequest-heavy), and possibly some other important sidequests.

All other quests are marked as "exploratory". By default you will not see or be able to pick up exploratory missions unless you activate a checkbox on the upper right of the world map panel. These quests you can do for additional experience/rewards if you choose.

Combat itself should be pretty easy with the companion changes.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Cyron posted:

I really like playing republic but no one plays it :(

I been having fun on my knight and smuggler.

If playing a LS Jedi was anywhere near as engaging as LS war, I'd have never dared try Imp side. (This is before I joined up with TNG) Honestly LS War is the good guy story I wanted in a Star Wars game and it did everything I wanted from a typical Jedi story, better than the Jedi.

Basically sure the Republic might be 'objectively' the good guy, but you don't feel like a good guy playing. Meanwhile being a good guy on the Imperial side is way more rewarding and engaging. :colbert:

Eimi fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Oct 22, 2015

parasyte
Aug 13, 2003

Nobody wants to die except the suicides. They're no fun.

Spikeguy posted:

Great. I am one of those lowly folks who wants to play the game by themselves. I used to dream of maybe one day when the servers get shutdown, they just convert the game to a singleplayer thing as a farewell. But if they make leveling easier, me able to make every companion a heal bot and enemies less of bullet spunges then it sounds like I'll be playing more.

Companion affection is giving a really massive bonus to Presence, and Presence itself is already pretty strong. Make sure on the stories you completed that you also go ahead and complete the companion conversations, each companion is more Presence. Hopefully you've got a human up to level 50 as well for the presence boost.

I went through a companion flashpoint with a friend's companion tanking, and it was nuts. Comp could tank anything and wasn't getting hurt too bad while also doing a bunch of damage.

Nerd Of Prey
Aug 10, 2002


My main RP character, a badass outlaw swoop biker, has a shiny new speeder today!

Here he is attempting a difficult jump on his homemade racing track:



You can see that a previous rider did not have the best luck on this course.


Here he is trying to figure out where it should go in his custom speeder showroom:



For real though, the stuff in the new pack is awesome. I've been littering Tatooine with junk and wrecked machines, just like I always wanted to. I really do wish the log "mount" unlocked a decoration like other mounts. Actually having it sitting in my swoop garage or custom speeder showroom would be such a thing of beauty...

Hulk Smash!
Jul 14, 2004

Yeah I like the stuff in the new pack except that, right now, it's all way too expensive on the GTN. Let me complete my Zildrog set for less than 10 million, dammit! :mad:

GuyUpNorth
Apr 29, 2014

Witty phrases on random basis

Spikeguy posted:

Another question, I've been watching some LPs of the new expansion and was wondering if the sense change much for Trooper/Bounty Hunter classes. They seem so specific to Jedi/Sith players.

Discounting the Emperor, you always have the "defend your faction from invaders" plot. Smuggler and Bounty Hunter are kinda iffy depending on their relationship, since there are always jobs for them outside Empire or Republic.

Nerd Of Prey
Aug 10, 2002


I don't doubt the Zildrog set is going for beaucoup bucks. It's a great set.

I've been buying these other things on the GTN - the log, emergency response astromech and assorted wreckage - for prices ranging from 75-300 k, which is really not bad considering this stuff is so new. I'm sure the prices will drop further over the weekend, and I'll probably pick up a lot more. The smoking "blaster mark" that goes on a small wall hook is another favorite. I really love the wrecked republic ATV, but it only goes on a starship hook, which is a dealbreaker. I hope it gets bumped down to centerpiece at some point.

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Medullah posted:

I did Inquisitor and it makes me a bit sad that they didn't do (Inquisitor and KOTFE story spoilers) any references to him having experience with ghosts in his head. I DID love that they called me Darth Imperious though. I chose light side and released the ghosts are the end of his story, I imagine if I'd done dark side and kept them Valykorian might be a bit crowded in my head

I think my biggest "missed opportunity from class quest material" feeling was that when you go to an off-the-grid open port, it's not Port Nowhere, but an entirely new place. I always wanted Port Nowhere to be emphasized more in the Smuggler story.

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