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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Feudalism is what libertarians actually want. As is well known in this very thread.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Compared to Cromwell sure, but everything is good compared to Cromwell. I mean I'm sure this guy is just praising monarchy in general rather than specifically citing the Restoration as good because of the preceding civil war though. This is a woman actually, but otherwise yeah.
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# ? Oct 22, 2015 22:10 |
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Night10194 posted:If they really understood them they wouldn't be able to lionize them. It's the historical equivalent of 'never meet your heroes'. Yeah, but this isn't like finding out your favourite singer is also a rapist, this is like declaring your favourite singer is Rebecca Black. ikanreed posted:Oh, man, as much as I've read this thread, I never realized how little window dressing they put on the "I would forbid opinions that differ from my own" core belief. I always thought that was something they danced around, and tacitly ignored, rather than declaring outright. It's not that, its that they think twitter mobs are exactly as much violation of free speech as the government forbidding you from worshipping within five miles of any town.
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# ? Oct 22, 2015 22:36 |
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divabot posted:Jim is reviewing "female-oriented" porn. AUGH MY EYES and that's for a text-only post That's amazing. "I'm going to the internet to seek out the weirdest depths of the female sexual id!" *walks past piles of Supernatural dog dick porn to get to the one kink no woman on the planet has ever given a poo poo about*
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# ? Oct 22, 2015 22:55 |
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Cingulate posted:So just to make the obvious explicit: this is trying to retroactively paint Monarchy as a Libertarian paradise. Libertarianism has nothing to do with genuine freedom, it's about protecting private hierarchies and authority. A despotic monarchy is the ultimate private authority--a man who owns a country and all the people in it. Whatever rights you have are irrelevant next to the king's right to own you and use you as he pleases.
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divabot posted:Jim is reviewing "female-oriented" porn. I mean, I'd never dare make vast sweeping generalisations about female sexuality as "women like x in porn", but if there is one salient example of female porn, it's about young rich white guys. (The only dark-ish guy in 50 Shades of Grey is a Bad Rapist who gets beaten up by Good White Rapist.)
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Woolie Wool posted:Libertarianism has nothing to do with genuine freedom, it's about protecting private hierarchies and authority. A despotic monarchy is the ultimate private authority--a man who owns a country and all the people in it. Whatever rights you have are irrelevant next to the king's right to own you and use you as he pleases. Not that I think it's shown itself to lead to good outcomes wrt. freedom in any way whatsoever, but to deny that its foundational texts are liberal in intent and context is just a display of ignorance.
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I think Ayn Rand would have liked 50 Shades.
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# ? Oct 22, 2015 23:27 |
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If she were alive today she'd have written it.
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divabot posted:Jim is reviewing "female-oriented" porn. AUGH MY EYES and that's for a text-only post quote:Dave says: Dave have you ever even seen a porn video before?
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# ? Oct 22, 2015 23:42 |
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Cingulate posted:I think Ayn Rand would have liked 50 Shades. neonnoodle posted:If she were alive today she'd have written it. Nonsense, 50 Shades was made into a commercially successful movie
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Dave have you ever even seen a porn video before? That was sarcasm, I am almost certain. No, you can't convince me otherwise.
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Cingulate posted:Went to check if this was somehow originally posted in 2004, before 50 Shades of Grey and Twilight, where there literally is a rich (young, white) guy who gives the woman clothes, appeared, but no, it's from 2015. Hey hey hey, sometimes they are very lightly complexioned Sheikhs, or suspiciously pale Native American chiefs.
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# ? Oct 23, 2015 00:09 |
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Libertarianism is better called proprietarianism, since it is fundamentally the deification of liberal property.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Hey hey hey, sometimes they are very lightly complexioned Sheikhs, or suspiciously pale Native American chiefs.
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# ? Oct 23, 2015 01:28 |
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Hey, the Native American werewolf gets to gently caress their freakish mutant kid.
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ducttape posted:Nonsense, 50 Shades was made into a commercially successful movie HIYO
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I imagine the only difference is that it is far more culturally acceptable for women to fantasize about being the submissive party in a relationship vs. men. As for the libertarians, yeah I have heard many of them say without irony that a king is better because a king won't vote himself welfare payments and will respect liberty. I would actually say that history tends to disprove this, and if it shows anything, it is that having multiple competing centers of power in a society tends to work better than having one big central one.
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Cingulate posted:Not in 50 Shades or Twilight, which is what I was talking about. In fact, Edward is unnaturally pale. I was just saying this has been going on for decades and decades, long before Twilight was a twinkle in a frumpy Mormon's eye. Harlequin romance novels (which is, if your going to make stereotypes about lady porn the best source for those stereotypes) are full of men from other cultures that are portrayed as white dudes to make them less threatening. Usually native american warriors or Arabic sheikhs for some reason, those are the two big ones but I'm sure there are many others.
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# ? Oct 23, 2015 07:19 |
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Not to go off subject, but I have some serious questions about libertarians:
any answers to a single one of these questions would be cool Twerkteam Pizza has a new favorite as of 08:31 on Oct 23, 2015 |
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:Not to go off subject, but I have some serious questions about libertarians:
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# ? Oct 23, 2015 09:53 |
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:Not to go off subject, but I have some serious questions about libertarians: 2. Not for you, probably. 3. Nicer? 4. I think God just made them bad. That is also why they need punishment, or at least reeducation. In camps.
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TetsuoTW posted:Yes, No, Yes, Yes thanks. Cingulate posted:1. No, words literally don't exist, we cannot name things. Also thanks
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:Not to go off subject, but I have some serious questions about libertarians: There was a social psychology article a while ago that found that libertarians had far lower empathy for other people and far less concern for fairness. They were also far more likely to accurately predict that they had lower empathy and less concern for fairness. Hopefully this is the first step in medicalizing libertarianism so that a cure may be found.
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# ? Oct 23, 2015 12:07 |
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Jack Gladney posted:There was a social psychology article a while ago that found that libertarians had far lower empathy for other people and far less concern for fairness. They were also far more likely to accurately predict that they had lower empathy and less concern for fairness. I only have access to my university library until August, please pm me if you know where to find said article.
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# ? Oct 23, 2015 12:12 |
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:I only have access to my university library until August, please pm me if you know where to find said article. Originally posted in this very thread (open access too, I think): https://webfiles.uci.edu/phditto/peterditto/Publications/Iyer%2520et%2520al%25202012.pdf?uniq=-5wjp24 Link is dead. The researcher's name is Peter Ditto. I'm phone posting, but will try to remember to dig it up later.
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PLoS One, so it's open-access: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0042366
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Jack Gladney posted:There was a social psychology article a while ago that found that libertarians had far lower empathy for other people and far less concern for fairness. They were also far more likely to accurately predict that they had lower empathy and less concern for fairness. It's PLoS, so don't worry about losing library access. Another interpretation of this study is libertarians rely more on reason than emotions btw e:f,b Jack Gladney posted:Hopefully this is the first step in medicalizing libertarianism so that a cure may be found. Cingulate has a new favorite as of 13:17 on Oct 23, 2015 |
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Speaking of science, let's learn how to be an IQ obsessed helicopter parent http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/mhk/experiences_in_applying_the_biodeterminists_guide/
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Cingulate posted:Not perhaps this? Emotions are reasoned ergo libertarians suffer from brain damage. Ban the fedora. Open the camps.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Speaking of science, let's learn how to be an IQ obsessed helicopter parent http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/mhk/experiences_in_applying_the_biodeterminists_guide/ ...isn't biodeterminism kind of a modern day fallacy?
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# ? Oct 23, 2015 15:21 |
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:...isn't biodeterminism kind of a modern day fallacy? Yes but it's such a convenient thing to base your assumptions about the world on, like some kind of sciencey just world fallacy.
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:...isn't biodeterminism kind of a modern day fallacy? On the other hand, so far almost no clear genetic or even neuroanatomic correlates of anything have been found.
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# ? Oct 23, 2015 16:07 |
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Cingulate posted:The philosophy of libertarianism - not Ayn Rand, but e.g. Nozick, Hayek, whatever - is a direct and radical consequence of classical liberalism, and very much about freedom in at least one philosophically justifiable sense. At this point it's not much different from arguing that the Soviet Union wasn't really true to communist philosophy. It would be correct but also rather futile.
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# ? Oct 23, 2015 16:13 |
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Actually, Mass Effect 3 is bad because of Cultural Marxism. http://atavisionary.com/how-cultural-marxism-ruined-the-mass-effect-franchise/
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:...isn't biodeterminism kind of a modern day fallacy? Yes, but it's not a simple one to explain the flaws of. Because it is true that in aggregate, people with higher IQs are better off in life. But that doesn't necessarily imply an innate superiority as many people think it does. Biology does affect us in profound ways, and many people drive off that cliff of it having no influence to counter the notion that it governs our entire life.
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Cingulate posted:Don't know what exactly you mean by that, but nobody in the field denies almost all aspects of personality and cognitive capacity have heritabilities somewhere between moderate to very strong. So everyone believes it without any proof? Personality, at least, would seem to me to be far more influenced by surrounding culture. I'm probably missing something, but what you said reads as "Arabs can't democracy and never will" and/or "Blacks are just stupid and violent and will never improve".
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# ? Oct 23, 2015 16:30 |
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IQ correlates with having a good life in such a way that it it is in some ways (all ways?) an artifact of having good health, a good education, and good opportunities. There is no nature and no nurture, but just endless byzantine interactions between the two.
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Merdifex posted:Actually, Mass Effect 3 is bad because of Cultural Marxism. Also lends some credence to my theory that Aurini's fake cigarette smoking and whiskey is basically lovely Illusive Man cosplay.
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Merdifex posted:Actually, Mass Effect 3 is bad because of Cultural Marxism. Yeah, the romance stuff was added for the women playing the game, loving sure.
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