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Hulk Smash! posted:I hope we at least get some customization tokens soon for them. I was disappointed in that too. Forgot to put pants on Quinn and pantless Quinn in a serious cutscene on my starship made me hate him more than I usually do.
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So if you have a strong enough companion do you think it's possible to solo tactical FP's?
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Fortunately the default gear for everyone is already pretty cool. I want koth's bayonet rifle for myself, honestly.
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When 4.0 hit I spent like 50,000 credits buying a nice-looking Imperial uniform for Quinn, only to get the nice-looking Imperial uniform he started with back in the mail last night.  Maybe I'll just wear it myself for the beginning pre-timeskip part of KotFE when it finally unlocks; showing up on Valkorian's ship wearing Thexan's robes might be a bit gauche. EDIT: I don't even use Quinn for anything! I almost always roll with Jaesa or Vette. Also Lieutenant Pierce looks really good in that Imperial pilot armor you get sent on new characters.
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cheesetriangles posted:So if you have a strong enough companion do you think it's possible to solo tactical FP's? Not so sure. They're kinda harder than they were. Bosses are OK since there's kolto stations but trash pulls are a bit of a pain if your group is used to face-rolling the FP.
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...The tiny person bug is back, only in reverse. Just had a holocommunicator call with someone, and they appeared their full sized self, balanced in the palm of my companion's hand. I didn't get a screenshot in time, but I look forward to hilarity to come.
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I feel like I'm making a mistake but I kinda wanna come back to this game. Is the game bearable for F2Ps? I bought the game back when it wasn't free though. Do I get anything for that? I heard that you don't even get sprint without giving your credit card over to EA
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Fojar38 posted:Truth be told I don't think that it will matter all that much. This is very, very likely, but I'm going to wait and see what happens before going full critic on it. Fojar38 posted:Honestly, I'm fine with this. As excellent as KOTFE is from a single-player standpoint, it remains an MMO, and so it is constrained by certain rules, such as "The PC must always be playable." I don't think anyone with reasonable expectations was going into this expecting a full single-player Bioware/Telltale experience. The problem is that they're ending up with the worst of both worlds. The storytelling is handicapped by the MMO mechanics, and the MMO grouping experience is held back by the single-player story focus.
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Minorkos posted:I feel like I'm making a mistake but I kinda wanna come back to this game. Is the game bearable for F2Ps? I bought the game back when it wasn't free though. Do I get anything for that? I heard that you don't even get sprint without giving your credit card over to EA Not really. You really need to sub to have fun with this game, all the free models are designed to entice you to sub by withholding QoL stuff. I would not recommend this game to someone who's unwilling to subscribe.
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Oct 23, 2015 16:05
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Nipponophile posted:and the MMO grouping experience is held back by the single-player story focus. I disagree. I personally am doing more grouping now than I did prior to the Xpack and I don't see why anyone would be doing less than they were before. If it's a "people don't group up to kill Gamorreans on Tatooine anymore" complaint I feel obligated to point out that people never did that.
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Minorkos posted:I feel like I'm making a mistake but I kinda wanna come back to this game. Is the game bearable for F2Ps? I bought the game back when it wasn't free though. Do I get anything for that? I heard that you don't even get sprint without giving your credit card over to EA I think you are fine as a F2P player up until you get the max level you can get. Then sub to access the expansion content. If you don't want to pay for the game by the time you beat your story on a character, sub bonuses aren't going to magically make the game fun for you. The biggest things you miss out on as a F2P player are: a) the sprint thing like you said b) lower credit cap c) limits on how many times you can do PVP and space missions d) inability to wear artifacts e) lack of unify colors Not wearing artifacts isn't a big deal while leveling. And you can get around the unify colors by clicking this: http://www.swtor.com/r/SbLXBF . By using a referral link you'll get a goody bag that gives you the following: Unlock: Inventory Module Unlock: Crew Skill Slot Customization Control: Display Titles Customization Control: Unify Colors Using the referral also gives you 7 days free sub, so it's a great way to see if you actually do want to play the game or not. It's also worth noting that all the unlocks and poo poo can technically be bought for credits on the in-game auction house, although it isn't terribly common for such things to be for sale. SolidSnakesBandana fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Oct 23, 2015 |
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Oct 23, 2015 16:09
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Has anyone started a new character with the new leveling system. Isn't actually possible to go from 1 to max running class and main planet missions?
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I've run into a problem. Don't have the early access and am at the 1000 data crystal cap. Is there anything I can actually spend it on that doesn't require reputations?
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Oct 23, 2015 16:14
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Fojar38 posted:I disagree. I personally am doing more grouping now than I did prior to the Xpack and I don't see why anyone would be doing less than they were before. But are you grouping because of the story or in spite of it? This update made a bunch of quality of life improvements to the MMO side of things, like level scaling and FP adjustments, but that has nothing to do with the story. I don't think anybody is grouping up to run through Chapter 1-9.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:I've run into a problem. Don't have the early access and am at the 1000 data crystal cap. Is there anything I can actually spend it on that doesn't require reputations? In most of the daily areas there's an NPC that sells a few mounts for 200 or so. I think they're just tagged as Level 50 Basic Gear vendors. Nipponophile posted:But are you grouping because of the story or in spite of it? This update made a bunch of quality of life improvements to the MMO side of things, like level scaling and FP adjustments, but that has nothing to do with the story. I don't think anybody is grouping up to run through Chapter 1-9. You group once the story is done, like in every other MMO.
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Hulk Smash! posted:I hope we at least get some customization tokens soon for them. I was disappointed in that too. Really glad they fixed the "constantly grunting Qyzen" bug before the pants bug occurred, because that would have made it doubly weird. Nelson Mandingo posted:I've run into a problem. Don't have the early access and am at the 1000 data crystal cap. Is there anything I can actually spend it on that doesn't require reputations? If you have alts, you can send them some cheddar by buying some legacy-bound stuff with crystals and sticking them in a legacy bank. They can then sell those items and get the crystals back.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:I've run into a problem. Don't have the early access and am at the 1000 data crystal cap. Is there anything I can actually spend it on that doesn't require reputations? You can buy gifts on the fleet. Stock up for when you start KOTFE.
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Nipponophile posted:But are you grouping because of the story or in spite of it? This update made a bunch of quality of life improvements to the MMO side of things, like level scaling and FP adjustments, but that has nothing to do with the story. I don't think anybody is grouping up to run through Chapter 1-9. Uhh people grouped up to do story stuff before? I suppose in flashpoints like Maelstrom Prison but not only is that still around but it's actually relevant at endgame now.
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Nipponophile posted:But are you grouping because of the story or in spite of it? This update made a bunch of quality of life improvements to the MMO side of things, like level scaling and FP adjustments, but that has nothing to do with the story. I don't think anybody is grouping up to run through Chapter 1-9. Certainly not, but the story only lasts for a couple hours; it's the endgame part where a good MMO should encourage people to group together and do things so that it doesn't feel like you're grinding by yourself. I've only just got there myself so I have no idea if it's actually happened here, but that's where it counts IMO.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:I've run into a problem. Don't have the early access and am at the 1000 data crystal cap. Is there anything I can actually spend it on that doesn't require reputations? There's also decorations you can buy on the fleet in the Stronghold and Crew Skills area.
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cheesetriangles posted:You can buy gifts on the fleet. Stock up for when you start KOTFE. How important is it to grind up influence for your fighting companions? I haven't done it at all but they seem to be more than capable of handling themselves regardless. I ask because I noticed that some of the quest reward gifts I got were selling for 100k+ credits on the GTN and surely the influence isn't actually worth turning down that money? If I could give them to advisors to improve I don't craft, so I don't care about that bonus either.
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The game is made to be duo-ed now it seems. If you go to a solo flashpoint, it even suggests that you have a two-person party. They even removed Heroic 4s.
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Casyl posted:There's also decorations you can buy on the fleet in the Stronghold and Crew Skills area. Are those new? I don't remember decorations for comms.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:The game is made to be duo-ed now it seems. If you go to a solo flashpoint, it even suggests that you have a two-person party. They even removed Heroic 4s. Nobody did heroic 4's. Even WoW got rid of group quests a while ago because nobody did them.
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Hulk Smash! posted:Not so sure. They're kinda harder than they were. Bosses are OK since there's kolto stations but trash pulls are a bit of a pain if your group is used to face-rolling the FP. And you can't use kolto stations while you're alone. So no, you can't solo the tacticals.
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On the plus side, tacticals are rough but I just got a 208 main hand doing one. 
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cheesetriangles posted:You can buy gifts on the fleet. Stock up for when you start KOTFE. Good idea. Too bad I realized this after posting and leveled up my current companions. 
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Nipponophile posted:But are you grouping because of the story or in spite of it? This update made a bunch of quality of life improvements to the MMO side of things, like level scaling and FP adjustments, but that has nothing to do with the story. I don't think anybody is grouping up to run through Chapter 1-9. You grouped for the story quests in the original SWOTOR? Only time I've grouped up outside of FP's and Ops was for the Heroic+4's when doing my initial leveling. Since my first character I almost never group outside of dungeons and raids.
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Medullah posted:And you can't use kolto stations while you're alone. Is it just that they haven't re-weighted the trash encounters for tactical FPs or are enemies really that much more difficult?
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B-Mac posted:Has anyone started a new character with the new leveling system. Isn't actually possible to go from 1 to max running class and main planet missions? My wife is level 19 at the end of Dromaan Kass, and we did the story missions only on Korriban, the story missions on DK, the cult of revan (it was purple), all the heroics and I think 2 of the optional adventure missions, plus quite a few of the bonuses just because she likes to use force storm on everything she sees. So it definitely seems viable to just do the world and character story missions to level. Though the heroics are worth quite a bit of xp, so you might only be at the minimum level without them.
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Dexo posted:You grouped for the story quests in the original SWOTOR? The absolute best experience I've ever had out of years of MMOs was getting together a regular group to level together in SWTOR. We got together one night a week, hung out on Teamspeak, drank a lot, ran through planetary quests, heroics, flashpoints, whatever looked fun. Most people have never had this experience, so they don't even know how much fun they're missing out on.
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Nipponophile posted:The absolute best experience I've ever had out of years of MMOs was getting together a regular group to level together in SWTOR. We got together one night a week, hung out on Teamspeak, drank a lot, ran through planetary quests, heroics, flashpoints, whatever looked fun. Most people have never had this experience, so they don't even know how much fun they're missing out on. Fair enough, I've done stuff like that when I used to be serious hardcore raider for new expansions. Set aside a day or two get on Vent and shoot the poo poo while leveling. But Never in something like SWTOR, as I'm a crazy person who likes to see the entire dialogue tree and escape out of conversations all the drat time.
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Alter Ego posted:Is it just that they haven't re-weighted the trash encounters for tactical FPs or are enemies really that much more difficult? The enemies are significantly harder than they were before - if you think about it, all of the tacticals before were level 55 and you did them at level 60, so you were already 5 levels above the mobs most of the time. Now, they're scaled up to 65 so they're inherently harder.
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Medullah posted:The enemies are significantly harder than they were before - if you think about it, all of the tacticals before were level 55 and you did them at level 60, so you were already 5 levels above the mobs most of the time. Now, they're scaled up to 65 so they're inherently harder. Tacticals at least have gear bolster, right? I noticed last night that the tooltip for hard modes asked for an ilevel of 212, which is fully geared with mostly elite comm (or glowing crystal or whatever) gear which seems...steep for a flashpoint. There's also nothing stopping you from queuing if you're undergeared, which I feel makes trying to do them with random pubbies completely intolerable Mainly I'm upset that I'm going to have to actually learn how to use my cooldowns if I want to jugg tank them 
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Medullah posted:The enemies are significantly harder than they were before - if you think about it, all of the tacticals before were level 55 and you did them at level 60, so you were already 5 levels above the mobs most of the time. Now, they're scaled up to 65 so they're inherently harder. It seems that the HP of mobs, especially bosses, has been dialed up too. Killing the last boss in Assault on Tyhton took way too long yesterday.
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B-Mac posted:Has anyone started a new character with the new leveling system. Isn't actually possible to go from 1 to max running class and main planet missions? I started a consular the other day and I'm up to level 36 or so doing virtually nothing but purple (class + main) missions and the solo flashpoints. It's been smooth as hell so far, maybe even too easy. Companions are insanely powerful compared to what they were the last time I played, too. A companion set to healer mode basically makes you invincible.
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Confirming from Republic side, one class can indeed bypass the potentially irritating alliance recruitment quest on Hoth. That one might be annoying for folks' Republic alts to get given the nature of it and how quiet Goon Squad is compared to TNG. For what it's worth, here's an attempt at a quick guide on what to do once you've finished Chapter 9 of KotFE: * Save the supply crates you get for each of the Alliance's leaders until you finish the Star Fortress line. * You can spend common crystals at the smuggled goods vendor in the Odessen market for supply crates and tier 6 companion gifts. * Spend glowing crystals at your class's vendor in Alliance headquarters. They'll be in one of the four leader areas. * Spend radiant crystals at your class's vendor in the Odessen market. * You can recruit two droids immediately in the Odessen market. For the quest Inflicting Comfort, the food chip (first option) goes to the military, the prepared meals (second option) go to the underworld, the cushions go to the Force sensitives, and the perfume goes to research. * Doing the alliance quest Finding The Findsman will unlock a series of new companion recruitment quests. Death Before Dishonor, Mixological Profiling (only if you have that subscriber bonus), and Fighting Power With Knowledge can easily be done alone. You will need to either farm some mobs that will probably be camped to hell or a raid group for Stalking the Score unless you're a particular class. The War Relic (Empire)/The Droid with the Booming Voice (Republic) require doing 20 unranked PvP warzones, but can be bypassed if you have Valor rank 40 or are the appropriate class. The Kindly Old Monster requires an enormous amount of bioanalysis mats unless you're the appropriate class, and can only be finished while the rakghoul event is up. * For the Star Fortress questline, you need to do a solo mode of the flashpoint first and it doesn't matter where. This will open up six new questlines, and they all work the same way and can be soloed. Each requires 5 supply crates, and you can get more by asking the NPC for a heroic quest. Finishing each Star Fortress line then requires running the flashpoint in heroic mode for that particular planet, and rewards you with a new companion. * All of the new companion quests are strictly optional. Star Fortresses yield some good gear and heroics are worth doing anyway for the crates and crystals, so it is worth doing them. Heroic 2+ quests are easy to solo these days as well. However, don't feel you're missing anything important by not doing them or the alliance quests. * Odessen has most of the amenities you'll need for a major hub. You'll need to go back to the fleet for some things, but Odessen has a bank, guild bank, GTN, mailbox, companion gift vendor, and various quest terminals.
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Aphrodite posted:Are those new? I don't remember decorations for comms. Yes, they're new with KotFE.
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Nipponophile posted:The absolute best experience I've ever had out of years of MMOs was getting together a regular group to level together in SWTOR. We got together one night a week, hung out on Teamspeak, drank a lot, ran through planetary quests, heroics, flashpoints, whatever looked fun. Most people have never had this experience, so they don't even know how much fun they're missing out on. So here's the thing about that: I don't play video games around a schedule. I do it when I have time. That's why people like solo content, they can do it when they want. I used to do poo poo like that, then I realized how much I hated having to mark out a night of my week to play a video game.
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