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Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
Caesarian or termination is a choice that should be available.

If a woman is in labour and moments from giving birth she is still entitled to an abortion as long as the baby hasn't actually left her body. If it's halfway she is entitled to an abortion because it's still in her body.

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EvilElmo
May 10, 2009

Ler posted:


I hope Labor are seriously considering a coalition with Greens because there's no other way they'd get into office. Then again it's Labor and they're a never ending source of failure and disappointment so we're doomed for another 8 years of Turdbull.

Uhh. What?

Government isn't formed by seats in the Senate.

edit: Plus, I don't think any of you actually want to form a coalition with the ALP. Bound to party room decisions? Yeah, I can't see that happening at the Federal level.

EvilElmo fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Oct 23, 2015

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Negligent posted:

Caesarian or termination is a choice that should be available.

If a woman is in labour and moments from giving birth she is still entitled to an abortion as long as the baby hasn't actually left her body. If it's halfway she is entitled to an abortion because it's still in her body.

What if its the half with the head that is out?

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

I believe...

EvilElmo posted:

Uhh. What?

Government isn't formed by seats in the Senate.

I'm aware of that. If Labor manage to claw back to an even standing in the polls I can't help but think that they would need the help of Bandt to pass the less popular HoR bills. I'm hoping Greens can of course achieve more than just one HoR's seat as leverage in this situation.
In any case its all very hypothetical, and probably not realistic.

Pred1ct
Feb 20, 2004
Burninating

quote:

In the interview, Senator Di Natale said his personal view was it would be a mistake to enter into a formal, permanent alliance with Labor akin to the Liberal-National Coalition but "I think we can enter into an arrangement with the Labor party to support them in government in the same way we have [in 2010] – you offer confidence and ask for key policy outcomes and you do that election by election," he said.

Sooooo it would be exactly like the Gillard government except they would try to negotiate for ministerial positions?

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
What happened in Tasmania after the 2010 election? I know the Greens had some ministries but I don't know the details.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Can anyone comment on whether banks could (or would) make margin calls on mortgagors in negative equity? Kind of like how it is done with Share trading with margin.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

Oh good. Prepare everyone, we're heading into the era of Pragmatism.

turdbucket
Oct 30, 2011

Doctor Spaceman posted:

What happened in Tasmania after the 2010 election? I know the Greens had some ministries but I don't know the details.

Labor got the greens to do their dirty work then dumped them before the election lol.

Quasimango
Mar 10, 2011

God damn you.

Negligent posted:

If someone said negro in 2015 i would think they are old and probably past it but not necessarily racist since it was acceptable to use like 30 years ago.

Eric Abetz isn't actually that old, he only looks it. He's four years younger than Turnbull, and just three years older than Barack Obama. He's just a crank.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
ABort that mother fucker

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

Quasimango posted:

Eric Abetz isn't actually that old, he only looks it. He's four years younger than Turnbull, and just three years older than Barack Obama. He's just a crank.

I feel like the perception that he's old as gently caress probably comes from the fact that most of his policy positions would be at home in... I dunno. 1939.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Quasimango posted:

Eric Abetz isn't actually that old, he only looks it. He's four years younger than Turnbull, and just three years older than Barack Obama. He's just a crank.

He's also been around longer than almost everyone else in the Senate, except Kim Carr and Glen Core.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Amethyst posted:

Oh good. Prepare everyone, we're heading into the era of Pragmatism.

Like someone said earlier, isn't he just saying 'hey, we'd be up for doing what we did in 2010 again', a move that worked about as well as it could have for all involved? Only this time we'd assume the Greens would be given a bit more of a fair share, since they'd hold some ministries and thus have a bit more sway than just being a few votes towards non-lovely things.

Not that it matters, with Bill Shorten being the dumbest motherfucker not banished to the Liberal backbench. This is just a wild thought, but are we one hundred percent sure he's not a sabotage agent reaching the culmination of a decades-long effort to undermine and destroy the Labor Party from within? Because if he was then all of this would look pretty much the same.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

Cleretic posted:


Not that it matters, with Bill Shorten being the dumbest motherfucker not banished to the Liberal backbench. This is just a wild thought, but are we one hundred percent sure he's not a sabotage agent reaching the culmination of a decades-long effort to undermine and destroy the Labor Party from within? Because if he was then all of this would look pretty much the same.

You'd think he'd try make it look a bit less obvious if that were the case.

I'm pretty sure he's just ALP's NTATA - he'll poo poo on whoever it takes if it gets him on top. (Un)fortunately we've just been given a strong reminder of the fact that raw ambition is no substitute for leadership ability.

#billshortenwillneverbepm

Unimpressed
Feb 13, 2013

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Can anyone comment on whether banks could (or would) make margin calls on mortgagors in negative equity? Kind of like how it is done with Share trading with margin.

That's not part of any mortgage agreement I've ever seen. A margin loan agreement explicitly contains the LVR conditions.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Victim of alleged paedophile ring claims she was abused at parties attended by political elite
34 minutes ago
AAPThe Daily Telegraph
Abuse survivors demand pedophile action

THE victim of an alleged child sex trafficking network claims she was prostituted at dozens of paedophile parties, which were attended by political elite at Canberra’s Parliament House.

Speaking to the media outside the Royal Commission in Sydney today, Fiona Barnett, from northern NSW, also claims she witnessed “hundreds of crimes” — including murder, rape, abduction and torture — at the hands of the so-called elite paedophile ring 40 years ago.

The network, which Ms Barnett maintains still operates today, included high-ranking politicians, and police and judiciary members.
Fiona Barnett speaks to the media in Sydney. Source: News Corp Australia

Ms Barnett, 45, said she had reported the allegations to multiple health professionals, NSW Police in 2008 and the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse in 2013.

“My experiences were horrific beyond words ... but the way I’ve been treated for reporting the crimes I witnessed and experienced has been far worse than my original abuse experiences,” she said.

Ms Barnett described the alleged operation as a “very well-coordinated international paedophile ring”, and said there was a strict hierarchy.

“I was only saved for the VIP paedophiles,” she said.

“It’s a hierarchy, what I witnessed was the very top of the hierarchy.”

Ms Barnett said she “lives in absolute fear” and only decided to speak out because she “has nothing left to lose”.

She maintains the network is still in operation, and urged Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull to make it a priority to “make the kids safe”.

Child sex abuse advocacy group, Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests Australia (SNAP), says it has heard from several other alleged victims who say they have witnessed similar offences of rape, torture and murder perpetrated by the most senior people in Australia.

“We’re not talking about an isolated incident and an isolated survivor. It’s a pattern, it’s widespread and it’s continuing today,” SNAP leader Nicky Davis said.

She claimed many survivors had spoken and given evidence to police and the abuse royal commission but were mostly ignored. The group has urged the federal government to launch an investigation into the elite paedophile network.

Ms Barnett said she was “five turning six” at the time of the alleged incidents at Parliament House.

The allegations come after Liberal Senator Bill Heffernan told a parliamentary inquiry he had a list of 28 prominent paedophiles, which allegedly included a former prime minister and members of the judiciary.

Speaking under the protection of parliamentary privilege in a Senate estimates hearing on Tuesday, Senator Heffernan claimed the list was uncovered during the Wood Royal Commission into the NSW Police Force.

Senator Heffernan didn’t name any names but called on Attorney-General George Brandis to expand the child abuse royal commission so that it includes the legal fraternity.

However, Attorney-General George Brandis said just because someone’s name appeared on a list didn’t make them guilty.

He advised Senator Heffernan to go to the current abuse royal commission, which would decide if the information was something it could inquire into.

“We should respect any decision of the royal commission about the ambit and scope of its terms of reference,” he said.

:stare:

Given what's been uncovered in the UK, these allegations could very well be true.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
I like how Fairfax is calling Turnbull a Great Reformer on the front page when he hasn't done anything yet.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

:stare:

Given what's been uncovered in the UK, these allegations could very well be true.

My brain automatically jumps to thinking these claims are bullshit because I don't want to consider 'what does it mean if it's true'

:cry:

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Anidav posted:

I like how Fairfax is calling Turnbull a Great Reformer on the front page when he hasn't done anything yet.

The pm is no longer loudly demanding people pay fealty to team australia, that's something.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

starkebn posted:

My brain automatically jumps to thinking these claims are bullshit because I don't want to consider 'what does it mean if it's true'

:cry:

I mean, 40 years ago is 1975. That's the time period this poo poo was going down in the UK as well.

Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:

Anidav posted:

I like how Fairfax is calling Turnbull a Great Reformer on the front page when he hasn't done anything yet.

It's Obama's peace prize all over again

"Thank god you're not the last guy"

Unimpressed
Feb 13, 2013

Vladimir Poutine posted:

It's Obama's peace prize all over again

"Thank god you're not the last guy"

That's a good analogy! I'm going to use that in conversation so I can sound smart :)

turdbucket
Oct 30, 2011

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

I mean, 40 years ago is 1975. That's the time period this poo poo was going down in the UK as well.

That's why I'm pretty tempted to believe it..

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Anidav posted:

I like how Fairfax is calling Turnbull a Great Reformer on the front page when he hasn't done anything yet.

Well he has ditched university fee deregulation.

If you set the bar at a subterranean level, that's pretty good.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again


What happens when Turnbull hits 100%?

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug
The Singularity.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Keeping Shorten on will be remembered as one of the worst political moves of all time. We have the Downer Months and the Shorten Years.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Anidav posted:



What happens when Turnbull hits 100%?

When this guy hits an 88% preferred PM rating, we're gonna see some serious poo poo.

Pred1ct
Feb 20, 2004
Burninating
Shorten on 1%, and we remind you, there is a 1% margin of error.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Being smug and speaking in coherent sentences is all Australia needs. We set the bar pretty low.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

Anidav posted:

I like how Fairfax is calling Turnbull a Great Reformer on the front page when he hasn't done anything yet.
The Weekend Arsetralian is likening him to Bob Hawke.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-23/masked-swordsman-who-killed-two-at-school-was-racially-motivated/6881222

quote:

A masked swordsman who stabbed two people to death and wounded others was driven by racist motives, Swedish police said, fuelling concerns that asylum seeker numbers were polarising public opinion in the country.

So AusPol Radicalised terrorist? Or is it too soon to tell.

:toot:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-23/two-more-refugees-to-resettle-in-cambodia/6880696

quote:

Two more refugees are due to resettle in Cambodia as part of a deal with Australia, bringing the total number of people resettled under the $55 million arrangement to five.
So only 11 million dollars each. Lucky they aren't sitting on the dole in Mt Druitt, for 800 years.

Sack of potatos also sack of poo poo. Who knew?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-23/dutton-criticises-media-coverage-of-abyan-case/6880612

quote:

Immigration Minister Peter Dutton has criticised the continued coverage of a pregnant refugee, describing reporting of her case as unhelpful.

No love for some of Joes brightest plans?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-21/hockey-departs-canberra-with-parliaments-respect/6873194

quote:

imposing a traffic levy on Kingsford Smith airport to pay for Badgerys Creek airport and transport in Western Sydney.
So the public can pay for a private asset*...:psyduck:

Clearly a fiscal wunderkind.

*like they won't sell a second airport off for cents in the dollar the moment it's built.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

A boondoggle 50 years in the making. I'd say we've probably got another 100 to go before the runway sees its first plane.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE
Seeing as Pickled Tink didn't hook us up with the goods with fdotm I present:

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Is Turnbull beating peak Rudd as PPM? Is Shorten a Brendan Nelson?

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Bill Shorten could manage only fourth place on the question of preferred Labor leader, with Tanya Plibersek leading on 27% (up a point since July), Anthony Albanese second on 23% (up four), Wayne Swan third on 10% (steady) and Shorten down three to 9%. By contrast, Malcolm Turnbull’s first result for preferred Liberal leader as prime minister has him gaining from 44% to 64%, with Julie Bishop on 12% (down three), Tony Abbott on 8% (down five) and Scott Morrison on 4% (down one). The current leaders’ ratings were 66% approval and 16% disapproval for Turnbull, 25% approval (up one) and 62% disapproval (up two) for Shorten, and Turbull leading 76-14 as preferred prime minister.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
ReachTEL has Turnbull leading Shorten 68.9-31.1 on preferred prime minister, with 40.2% saying Labor should replace Shorten as leader versus 26.0% opposed

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Labor doesn't have anyone Turnbullesque they can replace Shorten with anyway. They're all charisma-free hacks.

open24hours fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Oct 24, 2015

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
I like how you can gently caress up so badly that more people want Wayne Swan as leader.

It might be cool. We could get more Commie Wayne front covers.

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Gilgamesh_Novem
Jun 12, 2007

Birb Katter posted:

Seeing as Pickled Tink didn't hook us up with the goods with fdotm I present:



Wow. What a view!!!!

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