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Wheat Loaf posted:Why did RTD decide to go for four specials in 2009 instead of a full series? Was it his partner's illness? Tennant wanted to do some stage work.
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Jerusalem posted:"This is very important, Amy. We never, ever, ever interfere!" I loved that moment a great deal and I thought that whole episode was terribly underrated for what it was supposed to accomplish. If you come into that episode knowing as much about the Doctor as Amy Pond does, it sets up so much and explains everything so perfectly. Plus there's "Sorry. Checking all the water in this area. There's an escaped fish." [taps nose conspiratorially]
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Oct 22, 2015 23:46
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Neddy Seagoon posted:She got waved with the blue beam. We know by now that's a teleport. ...except that pile of dust would have to be explained away...
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Oct 23, 2015 00:02
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Oh I bet they'll say something stupid like "Her Zygon twin was frozen in that form so she just hung around and they shared their life" so they have a backup copy of her.
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Oct 23, 2015 00:10
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misadventurous posted:Flesh and Stone/Time of Angels ruled though I'm on those right now, and yea, they are fantastic. I think one of the smartest moves during the Smith years was to make Rory an actual character we can root for, someone who we want to see with Amy. Often the Girls boyfriend is a complete tool and you're just waiting for them to break up so your ship can happen. Also, Karen Gillain's facial acting is always top notch.
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Oct 23, 2015 00:13
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Cleretic posted:The most insane Clara theory I can come up with: At some point during the events of The Witch's Familiar, Missy started impersonating Clara and got the real one killed. If true (I doubt it), it wouldn't be the first time: The Rani impersonated Mel, the Ganger with Amy, etc...
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Oct 23, 2015 00:14
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BSam posted:I love the show so much, but every time this is brought up it just sounds like entitled whining. I said earlier in the thread and I stand by it - if I had to make a choice between having seen an extra season of Matt Smith OR get Day of the Doctor, then I'd pick the latter every time. And I say that as a huge fan of Matt Smith and his time as the Doctor.
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Oct 23, 2015 01:39
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BSam posted:I love the show so much, but every time this is brought up it just sounds like entitled whining. No one said anything about an "extra" season. The episodes broadcast in 2013 were the back half of the 2012 season. There was no 2013 season. There would have been a 2013 season if the show had not been mismanaged.
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Oct 23, 2015 01:56
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Nah a couple people definitely said stuff like that. Look back a page. S7 was divided into two half-seasons, and consciously written to work like that. I don't know how that merits the grumbling it gets either, poo poo happens in TV production sometimes. Are there any actual legit sources laying out the nature of this budget mismanagement? It's always smacked of rumors/hearsay/total BS. I've read that S6 was split to get around summer ratings drops, and 7 was a result of BBC restrictions and staff stepping down combined with the upcoming 50th, which makes more sense to me than series 5 chokeslamming the budget for three years. misadventurous fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Oct 23, 2015 |
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Oct 23, 2015 02:13
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Rhyno posted:Tennant wanted to do some stage work. Specifically, he did Hamlet with the Royal Shakespeare Company, which was probably #2 on his list of dream jobs.
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Oct 23, 2015 02:35
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Specifically, he did Hamlet with the Royal Shakespeare Company, which was probably #2 on his list of dream jobs. When did he and Tate do that run of Much Ado About Nothing as Benedick and Beatrice?
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Oct 23, 2015 02:51
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Van Gogh's crush on Amy is adorable, but her's back is so bitter sweet because you know she's forgotten Rory. Though I completely forgot about them taking him to the future to see his work actually appreciated. Though I gotta admit the Lodger is one of my favorite Smith episodes, but the whole thing makes me think of all the other stuff we just talked about not paying off.
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Oct 23, 2015 04:55
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twistedmentat posted:Though I completely forgot about them taking him to the future to see his work actually appreciated. Probably my favorite part of an entirely wonderful episode. Smith really did have the best debut season.
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Oct 23, 2015 04:57
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I love that gif of the vase of flowers being replaced with that awful Tennant fan art and Amy's reactions.
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Oct 23, 2015 05:02
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Rhyno posted:Probably my favorite part of an entirely wonderful episode. Smith really did have the best debut season. I really wish I had met Tony Curran after that episode had aired because I would have loved to tell him directly how excellent he was in that episode. But I did tell him how much I liked him in Boardwalk Empire. I think my favorite thing about The Lodger is the Doctor just doing normal stuff. Uh so you can drink in public in the UK?
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Oct 23, 2015 05:03
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Gaz-L posted:When did he and Tate do that run of Much Ado About Nothing as Benedick and Beatrice? I think it was in 2011.
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Oct 23, 2015 06:36
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The bad guys being allowed to run away after killing and drinking like a baker's dozen vikings still bugs me, so I have a few questions for those much more well-versed in Who-history than I am: 1. What are some other examples of times that the bad guy (or guys) in a Who story were able to get away with their lives after killing someone? You don't need to list all the Master/Mistress episodes, or include a "He killed a guy, but it was all an accident/misunderstanding, the alien is really nice guys seriously." situations. I'm talking outright villainous actions, followed by the equivalent of beaming up to their ship and cruising away. Also, if their hijinx didn't lead to death (or a fate worse than death) then they don't qualify for this, but they may qualify for... 2. What is the least villainous/evil action taken by a character that led to the Doctor causing his/her/its death? Obviously this includes things like the Doctor fiddling around with something to make their weapons shoot at themselves or whatever, and it includes situations where the only way to save a lot of people was to compromise the villain to a permanent end. I don't think you can include accidental deaths caused by the Doctor though, because I'm sure there's been the equivalent of a super-happy Nun that's died because the Doctor flipped the wrong switch or didn't figure out what was going on fast enough. I'm just curious what people's responses to those two questions would be.
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Oct 23, 2015 07:43
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twistedmentat posted:I think my favorite thing about The Lodger is the Doctor just doing normal stuff. Uh so you can drink in public in the UK? In most places, some city centres have a prohibition on it and on the spot fines. Going to the park and having a picnic and wine is a traditional middle class as gently caress summer past time. Instant responses here rather than going through the list of serials to see what I can dredge up: NowonSA posted:1. What are some other examples of times that the bad guy (or guys) in a Who story were able to get away with their lives after killing someone? You don't need to list all the Master/Mistress episodes, or include a "He killed a guy, but it was all an accident/misunderstanding, the alien is really nice guys seriously." situations. I'm talking outright villainous actions, followed by the equivalent of beaming up to their ship and cruising away. Also, if their hijinx didn't lead to death (or a fate worse than death) then they don't qualify for this, but they may qualify for... If you ignore that the Brig blew them all up immediately afterwards, in The Silurians the Silurians release a plague designed to wipe out mankind (which does actually kill a load of people) and are planning to irradiate the whole planet until the Doctor stops them. His plan, at that point, is to send them back into hibernation for a bit and sort it out later. In Genesis of the Daleks, the Doctor very specifically does not destroy the daleks. NowonSA posted:2. What is the least villainous/evil action taken by a character that led to the Doctor causing his/her/its death? Obviously this includes things like the Doctor fiddling around with something to make their weapons shoot at themselves or whatever, and it includes situations where the only way to save a lot of people was to compromise the villain to a permanent end. I don't think you can include accidental deaths caused by the Doctor though, because I'm sure there's been the equivalent of a super-happy Nun that's died because the Doctor flipped the wrong switch or didn't figure out what was going on fast enough. The two that spring to mind are the guards in Vengeance on Varos that the Doctor dumps into an acid bath, and opening the tomb in Tomb of the Cybermen. Lot of innocent people died in that latter one, totally predictably.
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Oct 23, 2015 08:47
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Jerusalem posted:I said earlier in the thread and I stand by it - if I had to make a choice between having seen an extra season of Matt Smith OR get Day of the Doctor, then I'd pick the latter every time. And I say that as a huge fan of Matt Smith and his time as the Doctor. The same, but the exact opposite misadventurous posted:Flesh and Stone/Time of Angels ruled though The same, but the exact opposite BSam posted:I love the show so much, but every time this is brought up it just sounds like entitled whining. How far does this go, though? What if the showrunner made such enormous mistakes that the programme was cancelled? Would the fans be able to feel aggrieved then?
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Oct 23, 2015 08:48
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misadventurous posted:Flesh and Stone/Time of Angels ruled though They're not bad. But gain nothing by having brought back the Angels instead of showing something new. And suffers for all the out right contradictions and elements that just don't sit well with Blink. The Angels as a concept were interesting, but can't stand up to being mined for further content because actually they don't really make sense.
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Oct 23, 2015 09:06
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The Doctor basically always gives his enemies a chance to run if he can, although they often don't take it. I guess the enemies actually agreeing to it and not getting blown up afterwards is kindof a twist at this point.
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Oct 23, 2015 09:17
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The same, but the exact opposite Wait, you hated Matt Smith, but wanted another season with him?  MrL_JaKiri posted:How far does this go, though? What if the showrunner made such enormous mistakes that the programme was cancelled? Would the fans be able to feel aggrieved then? Depends on how good the outcome of said mistake is. If Moffat made something that resembled or even surpassed series 5 in quality, and the show got cancelled because of it, then that'd be better than dredging through mediocrity with the occasional Love and Monster sprinkled in for another twenty years. He should take risks. Let the vikings wear helmets. NowonSA posted:The bad guys being allowed to run away after killing and drinking like a baker's dozen vikings still bugs me, so I have a few questions for those much more well-versed in Who-history than I am: Partners in Crime, Forest of the Dead and Midnight come to mind. I always loved that the Doctor genuinely tries to save the bad guys. He wants to find a compromise. That's what makes him better than the average good guy.
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And More posted:Depends on how good the outcome of said mistake is. If Moffat made something that resembled or even surpassed series 5 in quality, and the show got cancelled because of it, then that'd be better than dredging through mediocrity with the occasional Love and Monster sprinkled in for another twenty years. He should take risks. Let the vikings wear helmets. Nice false dilemma
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Nice false dilemma MrL_JaKiri, honestly. I don’t want you to change. It was no bother, really. I saw your post, I figured it out. Happy to play your game. And More fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Oct 23, 2015 |
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qntm posted:I loved that moment a great deal and I thought that whole episode was terribly underrated for what it was supposed to accomplish. If you come into that episode knowing as much about the Doctor as Amy Pond does, it sets up so much and explains everything so perfectly. The Beast Below is probably, all things considered, and objective merit aside, my favourite episode of Series 5. It's Matt Smith at his most Second Doctor-y, and while I'm aware that it might come off as sentimental clap-trap (and probably also isn't true) the idea that getting old and losing a lot doesn't make you bitter, it makes you kind is a great message.
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Cerv posted:They're not bad. But gain nothing by having brought back the Angels instead of showing something new. And suffers for all the out right contradictions and elements that just don't sit well with Blink. The Angels as a concept were interesting, but can't stand up to being mined for further content because actually they don't really make sense. I completely disagree. The Angels make perfect sense. They're ideas that came to life and started killing people. They're fiction itself as a monster. That's why their image can come to life and attack, or can get lodged in your mind and murder you from the inside out. It's why it's cool how in Blink, the viewer can freeze them by watching Doctor Who, and why it's freaky when they stop playing by that rule. They're pure eldritch horror getting in my Doctor Who and i love it. I think F&S/ToA are good precisely because of the ways they elaborate on the Angels. Also, y'know, sparkling dialogue, clever effects, iconic scenes, that bit with Matt Smith's jacket. misadventurous fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Oct 23, 2015 |
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Oct 23, 2015 12:23
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The Cracks were kind of jammed into other stories in the season, but the reveal of the crack in the Angels 2-parter as the Doctor slowly becomes aware it is there is just fantastic. It also serves as a pretty cool callback to The Eleventh Hour when he realizes there is another room in the house.
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Oct 23, 2015 12:33
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twistedmentat posted:I'm on those right now, and yea, they are fantastic. I think one of the smartest moves during the Smith years was to make Rory an actual character we can root for, someone who we want to see with Amy. Often the Girls boyfriend is a complete tool and you're just waiting for them to break up so your ship can happen. I was thinking recently, if they made a Laundry Files TV series, I'd love it if Arthur Darvill and Karen Gillan played Bob and Mo. 
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Oct 23, 2015 13:56
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Watching him try out the Davros chair backstage was joyous if only for how much he was enjoying himself.
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The_Doctor posted:Oh, Peter. And then Nick Briggs asked Capaldi if he'd be willing to do a BF series based on the Doctor Who stories he made up when he was nine. Right? Right? 
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After The War posted:And then Nick Briggs asked Capaldi if he'd be willing to do a BF series based on the Doctor Who stories he made up when he was nine. Right? Right? “Nick, do you seriously think I'd explain my fanfic ideas to you if there remained the slightest chance of you rewriting the outcome? I signed the contract thirty-five minutes ago.”
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Jerusalem posted:“Nick, do you seriously think I'd explain my fanfic ideas to you if there remained the slightest chance of you rewriting the outcome? I signed the contract thirty-five minutes ago.”  "I'm not a motown musician, Nick."
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I like how there's not some obvious hook through the season so far. No Cracks, no Bad Wolf (seriously, that sounds like it was made from a random bag of scrabble letters), nothing. I mean there is the cloister bell but there hasn't been some kind of "Hey look people, look at that!" stuff with it.
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twistedmentat posted:I really wish I had met Tony Curran after that episode had aired because I would have loved to tell him directly how excellent he was in that episode. But I did tell him how much I liked him in Boardwalk Empire. If you haven't seen him as Datak Tarr in Defiance you are doing yourself a huge disservice.
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twistedmentat posted:I like how there's not some obvious hook through the season so far. No Cracks, no Bad Wolf (seriously, that sounds like it was made from a random bag of scrabble letters), nothing. I mean there is the cloister bell but there hasn't been some kind of "Hey look people, look at that!" stuff with it. The Hybrid Prophecy stuck out for me.
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Astroman posted:If you haven't seen him as Datak Tarr in Defiance you are doing yourself a huge disservice. That's how i met him, he was filming here. Doctor Spaceman posted:The Hybrid Prophecy stuck out for me. It's there, but it feels less Bad Wolf and more Time War. I guess we're only 2 stories in so, we'll see.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The two that spring to mind are the guards in Vengeance on Varos that the Doctor dumps into an acid bath, and opening the tomb in Tomb of the Cybermen. Lot of innocent people died in that latter one, totally predictably. Hold up now. Six didn't dump that guy in, he tapped him on the shoulder and he fell in on his own.
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My wife got to meet Tony Curran at a convention here in DC a few months back. Vincent and the Doctor is the kiddo's favorite episode of the revival (plus it got her into Van Gogh!) and when my wife told him this, he insisted on filming her a short video message thanking her for watching and admiring her taste in artists! So yeah, he's cool.
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