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Penny Wong for pm.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 04:29 |
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open24hours posted:Labor doesn't have anyone Turnbullesque they can replace Shorten with anyway. They'll charisma-free hacks. Labor doesn't need that to beat the Coalition anyway.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 04:32 |
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Yeah, labor doesn't need a charismatic leader they just need someone who isn't bill shorten
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 05:52 |
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Well they're not likely to win based on policy.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 06:00 |
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well if they dumped shorten for albo or plibersek they'd at least have a person with any amount of charisma leading the party, and if they picked swan it wouldn't be any worse and likely would be better because at least he has some honest-to-god accomplishments to his name.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 06:21 |
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BBJoey posted:well if they dumped shorten for albo or plibersek they'd at least have a person with any amount of charisma leading the party, and if they picked swan it wouldn't be any worse and likely would be better because at least he has some honest-to-god accomplishments to his name. I bet a lot of the Wayne Swan votes weren't really for him so much as 'I dunno, who's still a member of that party? Sure, him, whatever, just not this guy'. Basically, Wayne Swan is the most concrete Someone Else they've got, and even he's still winning over Shorten.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 06:49 |
Swanny is pretty rad, I'd have him as pm for a term. http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-21/swan-named-best-treasurer/2908654 Negative Entropy fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Oct 24, 2015 |
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 06:52 |
SynthOrange posted:Penny Wong for pm. hear hear
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 06:52 |
SynthOrange posted:Penny Wong for pm. Not only would we get someone who isn't completely horrible as PM, we stand a good chance of thinning out some conservatives as they have an aneurysm over the Asian lesbian running the joint. Win/win imo
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 07:07 |
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She's perfected John Faulkner's look of bemused disdain which I love.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 08:01 |
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Is Swan still in Parliament? I thought all the key players who backed Gillard resigned? Or did they just go to the backbenches?
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 08:17 |
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freebooter posted:Is Swan still in Parliament? I thought all the key players who backed Gillard resigned? Or did they just go to the backbenches?
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 08:27 |
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"worlds best treasurer" if the worlds best treasurer promises a surplus and delivers a 19.5 billion deficit, do the judges ask for the award back? Negligent fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Oct 24, 2015 |
# ? Oct 24, 2015 10:34 |
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The people who care don't think a government budget is like a household budget
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:07 |
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"I think for once that a government should be run like a business." - Some swing voters from Sydney.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:09 |
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The fact that Australia rode out the recession better than basically every other country in the world slightly outweighs the deficit in the minds of most economists who aren't dumb as dogshit, it seems
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:10 |
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But hey maybe it's just a fluke that every attempt to use austerity to drive down a deficit (eg the current Eurozone crisis) has ended in unmitigated disaster for all involved and perhaps it's really only a bizarre anomaly that the stronger the Keynesian policies implemented by a given government the better said government's economy weathered the recession, regardless of how large the deficit became.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:16 |
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Even Andrew Charlton doesnt think Swan was a particularly good Treasurer
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:21 |
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A close associate of Kevin Rudd doesn't like Wayne Swan?!?
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:22 |
Negligent posted:Even Andrew Charlton doesnt think Swan was a particularly good Treasurer Hrm, to believe a partisan political figure, or observable history, and the IMF. I dunno, it's a tough choice. FOR A CLOWN. *Drops mic, walks out*
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:26 |
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Wayne Swan is a dope.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:28 |
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Andrew Charlton is the best economist in Australia hth
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:33 |
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smh journo is so butthurt about the PM giving 'exclusive' interviews to other papers as well as his he wrote an article about it http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/exclusive-prime-minister-malcolm-turnbull-pours-his-own-tea-20151024-gkhiih.html
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:35 |
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If you have your head in a freezer and your feet in an oven on balance you're a Negligent post supply & demand I'm the greatest economist.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:38 |
Negligent posted:Andrew Charlton is the best economist in Australia hth Thats like saying herpes is the best std. Hth
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:43 |
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I'm not an economist Andrew Charlton is, and he's literally written books about the Australian economy When he says Swan wasn't that flash a Treasurer, I'm happy to believe it
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:43 |
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Negligent posted:I'm not an economist Confirmation bias.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:45 |
Negligent posted:I'm not an economist So you are voting Keith Windshuttle as Australia's Best Historian? He has literally written a book about it.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:48 |
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wayne swan had money in brown paper bags
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:49 |
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multiple economists are wrong. but one economist? one economist is very right.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:49 |
Now you are using Peter loving Costello as a back up to your argument. For fucks sake every time I look at one of your posts I regret it.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:52 |
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well an Australian economist who was working in the prime minister's office as a senior economic advisor is probably in a pretty good spot in terms of having all the facts about the treasurer compared to some random economists from overseas
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:53 |
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Frogmanv2 posted:Now you are using Peter loving Costello as a back up to your argument. For fucks sake every time I look at one of your posts I regret it. typical leftist, no sense of humour
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:56 |
Yes, because Australia is noted for a complete lack of transparency about its economic figures, which are regularly wrong.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:58 |
I'm sorry thread. I will stop responding to Negligent.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 14:07 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN8e9b2ON8s
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 16:26 |
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Lol had to hang around for a week before they would let him in.quote:New Zealand detainees on Christmas Island are so angry, hungry and traumatised they are allegedly considering rioting. Then they came for the kiwis and i said good I grew here you flew here.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 23:23 |
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I like how even if you came here when you were 2 years old and have lived here your whole life, there are people who think it's perfectly fine to send you to a country you have no connection to.
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# ? Oct 24, 2015 23:32 |
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Chris Kenny Becomes First Person Deservedly Sent To Nauru
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katlington posted:Lol had to hang around for a week before they would let him in. Why are they holding Kiwis on Christmas Island? Not that anyone else should be held there, but surely that's a dumb move politically? TheBlackVegetable fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Oct 25, 2015 |
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