Auspol: Not with a bang but with a whisper

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Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

Penny Wong for pm.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 04:29

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# ? May 16, 2024 09:32

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

open24hours posted:

Labor doesn't have anyone Turnbullesque they can replace Shorten with anyway. They'll charisma-free hacks.

Labor doesn't need that to beat the Coalition anyway.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 04:32

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Yeah, labor doesn't need a charismatic leader they just need someone who isn't bill shorten

# ? Oct 24, 2015 05:52

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

Well they're not likely to win based on policy.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 06:00

BBJoey: Oct 31, 2012

well if they dumped shorten for albo or plibersek they'd at least have a person with any amount of charisma leading the party, and if they picked swan it wouldn't be any worse and likely would be better because at least he has some honest-to-god accomplishments to his name.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 06:21

Cleretic: Feb 3, 2010; Can't post for 6 hours!

BBJoey posted:

well if they dumped shorten for albo or plibersek they'd at least have a person with any amount of charisma leading the party, and if they picked swan it wouldn't be any worse and likely would be better because at least he has some honest-to-god accomplishments to his name.

I bet a lot of the Wayne Swan votes weren't really for him so much as 'I dunno, who's still a member of that party? Sure, him, whatever, just not this guy'.

Basically, Wayne Swan is the most concrete Someone Else they've got, and even he's still winning over Shorten.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 06:49

Negative Entropy: Nov 30, 2009

Swanny is pretty rad, I'd have him as pm for a term.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-21/swan-named-best-treasurer/2908654

Negative Entropy fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Oct 24, 2015

# ? Oct 24, 2015 06:52

Negative Entropy: Nov 30, 2009

SynthOrange posted:

Penny Wong for pm.

hear hear

# ? Oct 24, 2015 06:52

NPR Journalizard: Feb 14, 2008

SynthOrange posted:

Penny Wong for pm.

Not only would we get someone who isn't completely horrible as PM, we stand a good chance of thinning out some conservatives as they have an aneurysm over the Asian lesbian running the joint. Win/win imo

# ? Oct 24, 2015 07:07

Ponderous Saxon: Jan 5, 2010; Fallen Rib

She's perfected John Faulkner's look of bemused disdain which I love.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 08:01

freebooter: Jul 7, 2009

Is Swan still in Parliament? I thought all the key players who backed Gillard resigned? Or did they just go to the backbenches?

# ? Oct 24, 2015 08:17

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

freebooter posted:

Is Swan still in Parliament? I thought all the key players who backed Gillard resigned? Or did they just go to the backbenches?

It was a bit of a mix. Plenty of them (eg Burke, Conroy, Plibersek, Leigh, Macklin) are still around.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 08:27

Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

"worlds best treasurer" :lol:

if the worlds best treasurer promises a surplus and delivers a 19.5 billion deficit, do the judges ask for the award back?

Negligent fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Oct 24, 2015

# ? Oct 24, 2015 10:34

norp: Jan 20, 2004; TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil

The people who care don't think a government budget is like a household budget

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:07

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

"I think for once that a government should be run like a business." - Some swing voters from Sydney.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:09

BBJoey: Oct 31, 2012

The fact that Australia rode out the recession better than basically every other country in the world slightly outweighs :qq:

the deficit :qq:

in the minds of most economists who aren't dumb as dogshit, it seems

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:10

BBJoey: Oct 31, 2012

But hey maybe it's just a fluke that every attempt to use austerity to drive down a deficit (eg the current Eurozone crisis) has ended in unmitigated disaster for all involved and perhaps it's really only a bizarre anomaly that the stronger the Keynesian policies implemented by a given government the better said government's economy weathered the recession, regardless of how large :qq:

the deficit :qq:

became.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:16

Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

Even Andrew Charlton doesnt think Swan was a particularly good Treasurer

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:21

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

A close associate of Kevin Rudd doesn't like Wayne Swan?!?

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:22

NPR Journalizard: Feb 14, 2008

Negligent posted:

Even Andrew Charlton doesnt think Swan was a particularly good Treasurer

Hrm, to believe a partisan political figure, or observable history, and the IMF.

I dunno, it's a tough choice. FOR A CLOWN.

*Drops mic, walks out*

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:26

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

Wayne Swan is a dope.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:28

Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

Andrew Charlton is the best economist in Australia hth

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:33

Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

smh journo is so butthurt about the PM giving 'exclusive' interviews to other papers as well as his he wrote an article about it

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/exclusive-prime-minister-malcolm-turnbull-pours-his-own-tea-20151024-gkhiih.html

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:35

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

If you have your head in a freezer and your feet in an oven on balance you're a Negligent post

supply & demand

I'm the greatest economist.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:38

NPR Journalizard: Feb 14, 2008

Negligent posted:

Andrew Charlton is the best economist in Australia hth

Thats like saying herpes is the best std. Hth

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:43

Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

I'm not an economist

Andrew Charlton is, and he's literally written books about the Australian economy

When he says Swan wasn't that flash a Treasurer, I'm happy to believe it

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:43

EvilElmo: May 10, 2009

Negligent posted:

I'm not an economist

Andrew Charlton is, and he's literally written books about the Australian economy

When he says Swan wasn't that flash a Treasurer, I'm happy to believe it

Confirmation bias.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:45

NPR Journalizard: Feb 14, 2008

Negligent posted:

I'm not an economist

Andrew Charlton is, and he's literally written books about the Australian economy

When he says Swan wasn't that flash a Treasurer, I'm happy to believe it

So you are voting Keith Windshuttle as Australia's Best Historian?

He has literally written a book about it.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:48

Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

wayne swan had money in brown paper bags

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:49

BBJoey: Oct 31, 2012

multiple economists are wrong. but one economist? one economist is very right.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:49

NPR Journalizard: Feb 14, 2008

Negligent posted:

wayne swan had money in brown paper bags

Now you are using Peter loving Costello as a back up to your argument. For fucks sake every time I look at one of your posts I regret it.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:52

Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

well an Australian economist who was working in the prime minister's office as a senior economic advisor is probably in a pretty good spot in terms of having all the facts about the treasurer compared to some random economists from overseas

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:53

Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

Frogmanv2 posted:

Now you are using Peter loving Costello as a back up to your argument. For fucks sake every time I look at one of your posts I regret it.

typical leftist, no sense of humour

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:56

NPR Journalizard: Feb 14, 2008

Yes, because Australia is noted for a complete lack of transparency about its economic figures, which are regularly wrong.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:58

NPR Journalizard: Feb 14, 2008

I'm sorry thread. I will stop responding to Negligent.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 14:07

CATTASTIC: Mar 31, 2010; ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN8e9b2ON8s

# ? Oct 24, 2015 16:26

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN: Jun 26, 2009

Lol had to hang around for a week before they would let him in.

quote:

New Zealand detainees on Christmas Island are so angry, hungry and traumatised they are allegedly considering rioting.

Labour MP Kelvin Davis had a five-hour “highly emotional” visit with detainees on Friday, gaining access to the centre after a week waiting on the island.

About 40 detainees are being held while they wait to be sent back to New Zealand under Australia’s immigration policy that came into effect in December.

Anyone who is not an Australian citizen and who has served a prison sentence of 12 months or more can be deported, potentially affecting about 1,000 New Zealanders.

Davis said the detainees are so desperate to return to their Australian homes, they are considering rioting.

“These New Zealand born Australians are not murderers or rapists. They have served their time yet Australian authorities are treating them as though they are a terrorism threat.”

None of the eight detainees Davis met wanted to return to New Zealand to settle their visa applications, as the Australian government has proposed.

“They think its a trick designed to prevent them from returning to their families and jobs in Australia,” he said.

On arrival at the centre, Davis said he was drug tested and escorted into an airless room where detainees were brought in two at a time for 30 minutes.

He said he took in birthday chocolates for detainee Ricardo Young but the authorities could not decide if he should be allowed them.

First they came for the refugees and I said good gently caress those queue jumping economic migrants.
Then they came for the kiwis and i said good I grew here you flew here.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 23:23

starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

I like how even if you came here when you were 2 years old and have lived here your whole life, there are people who think it's perfectly fine to send you to a country you have no connection to.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 23:32

BBJoey: Oct 31, 2012

Chris Kenny Becomes First Person Deservedly Sent To Nauru

# ? Oct 24, 2015 23:46

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TheBlackVegetable: Oct 29, 2006

katlington posted:

Lol had to hang around for a week before they would let him in.

First they came for the refugees and I said good gently caress those queue jumping economic migrants.
Then they came for the kiwis and i said good I grew here you flew here.

Why are they holding Kiwis on Christmas Island? Not that anyone else should be held there, but surely that's a dumb move politically?

TheBlackVegetable fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Oct 25, 2015

# ? Oct 24, 2015 23:57

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