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Ratzap posted:They're fairly hamstrung by the position the plot was in when they got to take over in entirety (who knows how much they are to blame with getting it into that state when working as part of the initial effort though). It's hard to take a story somewhere when your character has already been told it's the most super awesome, special snowflake, saviour of the galaxy since L10 or so. I'd be happy if they press the reset button at some point and start again with a more sane story with characters taking a rather more mundane role. This is why Smuggler is the best class.
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Fojar38 posted:This is why Smuggler is the best class. And Imperial Agent, though light-side agents get a pretty thorough explanation for why they've attracted the Emperor's undivided attention: In the Agent's version of things, Darth Jadus was the one the Emperor had his eye on as the worthiest Sith the order had ever produced, the one Sith who seemed to truly grasp the Emperor's vision while maintaining his patience and discipline, and all in all one of the greatest Sith the Emperor had ever seen... and you, a mundane Imperial Intelligence officer, beat him soundly. Whether it was through wits alone or a combination of guile and fighting skill, you defeated the Emperor's choice of heir at the time, and gained his intense interest in the process. It's a good use of the existing story, I think, since the Agent doesn't have the history with the Force and Emperor that the Jedi and Sith do. I assume the other non-Force classes get a similar explanation.
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Oct 24, 2015 21:48
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Okay it is a little retarded that level 51 Khem Val and I can take down some 191k hp champion with just time, healing and lots of lightning
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Oct 24, 2015 21:54
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Ratzap posted:They're fairly hamstrung by the position the plot was in when they got to take over in entirety (who knows how much they are to blame with getting it into that state when working as part of the initial effort though). It's hard to take a story somewhere when your character has already been told it's the most super awesome, special snowflake, saviour of the galaxy since L10 or so. I'd be happy if they press the reset button at some point and start again with a more sane story with characters taking a rather more mundane role. Eh I don't think any character is that powerful, with the possible exception of the Jedi and the Smuggler. Though the smuggler is all soft power in having a fleet follow them, that can easily be taken away. The Sith just beat unexceptional Dark Council members, the Agent is in command of a shattered organization that needs to rebuild, and the BH and Trooper are just good exemplars of what they are. The Jedi are the only suuuper powerful ones, and at least on Knight a lot of that is dialed back from 50-60.
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Oct 24, 2015 21:56
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Eimi posted:the Agent is in command of a shattered organization that needs to rebuild Not even that. If you're an Agent your character asks Lana what became of Sith Intelligence and she says it was almost completely wiped out fighting the Eternal Empire even after the truce was signed, and that she used most of what was left making Chapter 3 happen.
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Oct 24, 2015 22:00
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Cythereal posted:Not even that. If you're an Agent your character asks Lana what became of Sith Intelligence and she says it was almost completely wiped out fighting the Eternal Empire even after the truce was signed, and that she used most of what was left making Chapter 3 happen. Was more talking going in to FE 
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Oct 24, 2015 22:03
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Eimi posted:Was more talking going in to FE Ah, my mistake. The sperg is strong sitting at my office desk on a Saturday for ten hours where almost nothing happens all day.
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Oct 24, 2015 22:04
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Is it even worth levelling crew skills while levelling? And if so, which ones are worth the time?
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Zarick posted:Is it even worth levelling crew skills while levelling? And if so, which ones are worth the time? Leveling gathering while leveling is pretty easy now. Slicing and Underworld Trading where the best two, not sure which is the best now though. Bioanalysis has some utility because of a 65 quest but who knows how long the market for that will be good. Cythereal posted:Ah, my mistake. The sperg is strong sitting at my office desk on a Saturday for ten hours where almost nothing happens all day. Could've been having to deal with leaves. gently caress trees. 
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I started to sort through the 2 cargo bays worth of legacy gear I've gotten from my KOTFE and Star Fortress activities, and am actually pretty impressed and surprised that I didn't end up with a lot of duplicates. Hope that's intentional and not coincidence...but I doubt it. 
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Oct 24, 2015 22:17
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Nerd Of Prey posted:Yeah, the trick with transferring comms has always been to find that incredibly rare combination of a thing giving you a refund timer but not binding on pickup. Typically it's only stuff that binds to that character on pickup that has a refund timer. If it's legacy-bound or not bound at all, they probably figure you'll find a use for it. Validated that neither crates or companion gifts from the smuggled supplies vendor work. 
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Oct 24, 2015 22:22
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Medullah posted:Validated that neither crates or companion gifts from the smuggled supplies vendor work. True, but at least crates are legacy bound and crates and gifts are what I want to buy with common crystals right now.
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Oct 24, 2015 22:27
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What happens if I click "reset" on the "Chapter X coming soon" mission
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Fojar38 posted:What happens if I click "reset" on the "Chapter X coming soon" mission I think the only way to safely test it is to start a new character you don't care about, level it to 60, run through chapter 1-9 of KOTFE, and then try it out and see
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Medullah posted:I started to sort through the 2 cargo bays worth of legacy gear I've gotten from my KOTFE and Star Fortress activities, and am actually pretty impressed and surprised that I didn't end up with a lot of duplicates. Hope that's intentional and not coincidence...but I doubt it. You just got lucky because I got 7 of the same drat bracers.
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So, uhh, I have to buy Shadows of Revan to get to experience that storyline? I've already been soured on the fact that they didn't put any sort of solo version of the Oricon raid for people who actually want to see the story, like they apparently did for the Shadows of Revan ones. I only really returned to the game for the new expansion because there's a bit of a positive buzz in terms of cutscenes and what-not. I would've been even been willing to buy the new expansion (I know it's free for subs, which I am atm), but the Oricon thing and discovering the Revan thing really has soured me on this. Especially since apparently if you start the new expansion you won't be able to play through the old ones? Are old companions affected? I'm a returning player and I haven't even finished all their quests. edit: I can't tell you how happy I am you told me this. Thank you! Faith restored.  | v edit2: I should've gone through the reddit returning players FAQ more closely, it seems. Some of the quest flow and other information in-game are really hard to come by. Dessel fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Oct 24, 2015 |
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Oct 24, 2015 23:46
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Dessel posted:So, uhh, I have to buy Shadows of Revan to get to experience that storyline? I've already been soured on the fact that they didn't put any sort of solo version of the Oricon raid for people who actually want to see the story, like they apparently did for the Shadows of Revan ones. I only really returned to the game for the new expansion because there's a bit of a positive buzz in terms of cutscenes and what-not. You will get Shadow of Revan for free on the 27th.
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Oct 24, 2015 23:47
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Dessel posted:So, uhh, I have to buy Shadows of Revan to get to experience that storyline? I've already been soured on the fact that they didn't put any sort of solo version of the Oricon raid for people who actually want to see the story, like they apparently did for the Shadows of Revan ones. I only really returned to the game for the new expansion because there's a bit of a positive buzz in terms of cutscenes and what-not. Like Eimi said, you get it for free on the 27th. However - there was never a "solo version" of the raid to fight Revan. There is a solo version of the *fight* but the raid itself is very different. The game still has to have some content for people that actually want to group up.
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Oct 24, 2015 23:49
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Medullah posted:Like Eimi said, you get it for free on the 27th. Yeah I fully get this and respect that, I've poopsocked through raids and probably will in the future (though necessarily not in SWTOR). As a returning player I just want to see the story. Shame I'm a European on a non-goon server so I have close to zero chance to see the Origon storyline completed unless I just watch it on youtube.
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I'm sure it's been mentioned, but what's the suggested method for lazily converting cartel coins into credits? I bought five of the Underworld Alliance packs today and got the Wasteland Wamp Rat which sells for about 2 million, but other than that it was companion gifts and stronghold decor. I didn't bother price checking them yet, but hopefully they sell for quite a bit.
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I hit the reset button and it didn't do poo poo. Come to think of it I wish there was a way to play through the expansion again and redo some of the decisions that I think were not so smart.
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vanbags posted:I'm sure it's been mentioned, but what's the suggested method for lazily converting cartel coins into credits? I bought five of the Underworld Alliance packs today and got the Wasteland Wamp Rat which sells for about 2 million, but other than that it was companion gifts and stronghold decor. I didn't bother price checking them yet, but hopefully they sell for quite a bit. Sell the packs unopened. Better chance of making credits that way then hoping for a rare drop. Depending on the pack they can sell for 500k+ per pack. Right now server character unlocks sell for 1 million+ as well and I think they are 600 coins.
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So I'm finally paying attention to bounty week; the main reward for going after kingpins is just purple rep tokens, right? So if I don't care about BBA rep, I'm cool to just sell the completed bounties on the GTN without fear of missing out on anything significant? Or is there some other reason to go after Kingpins that I'm missing?
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vanbags posted:I'm sure it's been mentioned, but what's the suggested method for lazily converting cartel coins into credits? I bought five of the Underworld Alliance packs today and got the Wasteland Wamp Rat which sells for about 2 million, but other than that it was companion gifts and stronghold decor. I didn't bother price checking them yet, but hopefully they sell for quite a bit. lvl 60 characters and character slots
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I have Hutt Cartel (it shows up on my account screen on swtor.com) but I can't seem to get the mission for it. My ship's holoterminal just has Ilum. Level 48, act 3 done, am I missing some step or is it bugged?
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Oct 25, 2015 01:28
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Bruceski posted:I have Hutt Cartel (it shows up on my account screen on swtor.com) but I can't seem to get the mission for it. My ship's holoterminal just has Ilum. Level 48, act 3 done, am I missing some step or is it bugged? You pick up the mission from your ship's mission terminal (but not the space mission terminal, it's a different thing). Look around your ship for quest markers. Aphrodite posted:You need to be 50. Was that changed in the patch? My Warrior did Makeb at 49, and it used to unlock at 47, at least before this patch.
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Oh, do you? All I checked was the SWTOR.com page for it. It says 50 and above on there.
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Reveilled posted:You pick up the mission from your ship's mission terminal (but not the space mission terminal, it's a different thing). Look around your ship for quest markers. Yeah, I know, that's where I found the Ilum quest.
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Eimi posted:Eh I don't think any character is that powerful, with the possible exception of the Jedi and the Smuggler. Though the smuggler is all soft power in having a fleet follow them, that can easily be taken away. The Sith just beat unexceptional Dark Council members, the Agent is in command of a shattered organization that needs to rebuild, and the BH and Trooper are just good exemplars of what they are. The Jedi are the only suuuper powerful ones, and at least on Knight a lot of that is dialed back from 50-60. Well, the Sith are, plot-wise, the most powerful Dark Council member and the fabled Emperor's Wrath (which, if we go by the Jedi Knight plot, is the replacement for a dude who is uncontested in battle and has lived so long he doesn't know what food tastes like). That's about as special snowflake as you can get without making either the Emperor. I didn't feel the Knight was dialed back, at least if you take the Dark Side path. You can jedi mind-trick your companion Kira to serve you faithfully forever and ever and mind-wipe her memory, and Kira was one of the Children of the Empire. Your power, as quoted by the Emperor before death, is on par with the then Emperor at that time. Again, that's pretty super overpowered special snowflake. It works on its own, but it does make it difficult to continue to write for them for future expansions without having to retcon/reset. I do agree the non-force user stories are reasonable and don't suffer from this same problem, though.
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Do the class companions interject at all in the questline's dialogue beyond the original content? I mean in Rise of the Hutt Cartel and Shadow of Revan. I wanna know if I should keep Jaesa around through them, or if I can safely switch over to HK-51 without missing any of her commentary.
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PsycheNotFound posted:Well, the Sith are, plot-wise, the most powerful Dark Council member and the fabled Emperor's Wrath (which, if we go by the Jedi Knight plot, is the replacement for a dude who is uncontested in battle and has lived so long he doesn't know what food tastes like). That's about as special snowflake as you can get without making either the Emperor. I don't think the SI is the most powerful. Thanaton was not an exceptional member, he was just a member, its why he was Ancient Knowledge. As for the Empire's Wrath vs Scourge, Scourge was directly empowered by Vitiate. Vitiate performed a ritual and that's why Scourge is still around and so powerful. The Empire's Wrath is not that. They were chosen by Vitiate solely to counter Baras's plan. Vitiate mocks you about it later. They are special in the heirarchy but not in terms of raw power. They aren't the fabled hero of the galaxy like the Knight is. Eimi fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Oct 25, 2015 |
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Beeme posted:Do the class companions interject at all in the questline's dialogue beyond the original content? I mean in Rise of the Hutt Cartel and Shadow of Revan. I wanna know if I should keep Jaesa around through them, or if I can safely switch over to HK-51 without missing any of her commentary. All companions have some ambient dialogue in RotHC, they won't talk in cutscenes but will say things as you go through the quest areas. For SoR only the two "primary" romance options for each class will talk, again not in cutscenes but as you enter areas assuming you're not mounted. For Sith Warrior that means Vette/Quinn, so no comments from Jaesa. HK-51 actually does have some ambient comments as well.
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The more I play Fallen Empire, the more I wish Zakuul was the hidden empire Revan and the Exile went off to fight at the end of KOTOR 2. It's so much better as a weird empire from beyond the stars than Sith Empire #237
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SKY COQ posted:The more I play Fallen Empire, the more I wish Zakuul was the hidden empire Revan and the Exile went off to fight at the end of KOTOR 2. It's so much better as a weird empire from beyond the stars than Sith Empire #237 It may be that your idea was Bioware's plan, but Lucasarts wouldn't allow it while George was still in charge. They've been given a lot more latitude now that they're under Disney to create new ideas and planets.
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PsycheNotFound posted:Well, the Sith are, plot-wise, the most powerful Dark Council member and the fabled Emperor's Wrath (which, if we go by the Jedi Knight plot, is the replacement for a dude who is uncontested in battle and has lived so long he doesn't know what food tastes like). That's about as special snowflake as you can get without making either the Emperor. Though the agent is (or eventually) reaches the pinnacle of non-force using Imperial status. Being a cipher is basically like being commander shephard, you're more or less the most amazing person around. Minister of Intelligence is supposed to be the super duper top standard for non-force users in the Imperial government, but being a cipher might as well make you a jedi knight.
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SKY COQ posted:The more I play Fallen Empire, the more I wish Zakuul was the hidden empire Revan and the Exile went off to fight at the end of KOTOR 2. It's so much better as a weird empire from beyond the stars than Sith Empire #237 Wow, thanks for the spoilers. rear end in a top hat.
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Eimi posted:I don't think the SI is the most powerful. Thanaton was not an exceptional member, he was just a member, its why he was Ancient Knowledge. It still makes you like Top 12 Sith in the world.
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Fuzz posted:Wow, thanks for the spoilers. So weird that you got muted from guild chat, I can't figure that one out
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Eimi posted:I'd love to see the before and afters, if you've been taking pics! I just have my Merc handy but here's the before (left) and after (right). I figure the before was having access to top of the line - if beat up - heavy armor and gadgets and the after is making do with whatever he can scrounge up.  
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