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The best quote from Mike Tyson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx66LWV-CCk
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Hollismason posted:Yeah it's pretty obvious Trump tried to expand his businesses in Florida and despite raising money for the Bush's they still cold sholdered him. They measure their wealth in terms of civic virtue alone. 
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Oct 25, 2015 21:02
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The Bushes pretty much never have to pay for anything for the rest of their lives though. Friggin welfare queens
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Oct 25, 2015 21:03
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Hollismason posted:Yeah it's pretty obvious Trump tried to expand his businesses in Florida and despite raising money for the Bush's they still cold sholdered him. That's because they're a political dynasty, not a monetary one.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:05
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True wealth is not measured in dollars, but in the number of amateur paintings of world leaders.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:07
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SedanChair posted:They measure their wealth in terms of civic virtue alone. Speaking of which, what's the prep school that has "Those Who Serve, Reign" carved over the door? It's one of those places aspiring dynasties send their kids to but google isn't helpful.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:08
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Hollismason posted:This may shed some light on the issue. He's apparently not liked him for a long time. Thats my guess. Trump is an extremely petty self-centered guy and he probably takes any slight(real or imagined) from anyone personally. while I think carson/cruz/hukabee would be certainly worse policy wise. I think trump would be much worse because his personality. He has all of nixions faults magnified times a hundred plus he is rich as poo poo. I could see him loving over entire states/countries/deals because of slights and he would probaly be corrupt as gently caress. not to mention he would fill his cabinet with tea baggers and stooges.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:12
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I like to think Trump would fill every position he could with Trump impersonators just so the world could never escape his sinister visage
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Oct 25, 2015 21:15
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Hollismason posted:I thought this was a decent interview with Carson: Everything Carson personally doesn't like is synonymous with either nazism or slavery. His reservoir of historical knowledge is less than an inch deep. This doesn't phase him among his supporters, who literally see his lack of historical and foreign policy knowledge as a positive.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:16
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Logikv9 posted:If Trump's entire candidacy was designed to destroy Jeb!'s dreams just because of perceived betrayal in Florida, I'm okay with that. That's right, conspiracy buff! I spent $75 million on a fake presidential campaign, all just to tick Jeb Bush off.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:18
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Carrasco posted:That's right, conspiracy buff! I spent $75 million on a fake presidential campaign, all just to tick Jeb Bush off. If Trump spends $75 million to ensure Jeb is never President, he deserves a loving statue.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:19
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Spite posted:Yeah definitely agree there. The problem there is that, like. A Trump - Clinton race presupposes Trump winning the nomination. And at that point, every piece of conventional wisdom and structural understanding of American politics is out the window. The impossible has already occurred, so how are we supposed to know what happens next? It could be literally anything. It seems unlikely that Trump would be able to beat Clinton, but it also seemed extremely unlikely that he'd win the nomination, so who the gently caress knows, at that point?
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Oct 25, 2015 21:20
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DaveWoo posted:Yes, why just look at all the Republicans who were convicted for lying us into the Iraq War and insituting a secret torture program, such as  computer parts posted:And also conservative Dems don't exist anymore. 
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Oct 25, 2015 21:22
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Carrasco posted:That's right, conspiracy buff! I spent $75 million on a fake presidential campaign, all just to tick Jeb Bush off. I watched this episodes literally last night, but I didn't recognize the Trump/Lex similarities until now.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:22
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Can somebody explain what the gently caress Carson is babbling about? http://www.mediaite.com/tv/im-a-little-confused-chris-wallace-grills-carson-on-medicare-alternative/ He seems to be saying that he doesn't want to eliminate medicare, but wants to give people a "choice" to set up health savings accounts. How can you have both at the same time?
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Oct 25, 2015 21:32
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Americans really hate incumbent "career" politicians thanks to years of "well both sides do it and both sides are evil" messaging from the media. Trump is guaranteed at least 47% of the vote on that alone. The public also loves a winner for sure. And after 8 years of a black president, the GOP will definitely go for a bully. They don't want a Jeb!, they want someone willing to spit in some Democrat faces.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:33
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Bob Ojeda posted:The problem there is that, like. A Trump - Clinton race presupposes Trump winning the nomination. And at that point, every piece of conventional wisdom and structural understanding of American politics is out the window. The impossible has already occurred, so how are we supposed to know what happens next? It could be literally anything. It seems unlikely that Trump would be able to beat Clinton, but it also seemed extremely unlikely that he'd win the nomination, so who the gently caress knows, at that point? There will be chaos in the GOP, because the establishment donor class will not sit quietly and be disenfranchised by the very loons they're supposed to be controlling. There will be chaos in the general because Hillary will need to parry "establishment" attacks and both her and Bernie would have to use everything they've got just to keep Trump from devolving the whole thing into a clownshow. There will even be chaos post-election, because I do not expect a Trump loss to end peacefully, and I shudder to think how a Trump presidency would go. What I'm saying is: dehumanize yourself and face the bloodshed.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:37
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Mr Interweb posted:Can somebody explain what the gently caress Carson is babbling about? I think he is saying that if you are indigent then you would get a set amount of "money" and then that money would go to purchase a plan. It seems like just a voucher plan. I dunno he isn't really good at explaining it.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:38
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Hollismason posted:I think he is saying that if you are indigent then you would get a set amount of "money" and then that money would go to purchase a plan. Yeah, but he kept saying there would be no subsidy from the government so where would they get the money from?
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Oct 25, 2015 21:44
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Mr Interweb posted:Yeah, but he kept saying there would be no subsidy from the government so where would they get the money from? He'll cut taxes on the rich, so they'll be able to give to charity!
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Oct 25, 2015 21:45
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Mr Interweb posted:Yeah, but he kept saying there would be no subsidy from the government so where would they get the money from? It's almost like this plan is poorly thought out.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:46
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I think what he is saying is everyone would have the option of putting money into a savings account from birth and then... Free Medication?
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Oct 25, 2015 21:47
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Luigi Thirty posted:They arrested a guy in South Carolina for heroin trafficking. you'll never believe what they found when they got to his property. any word on if the stash included a deactivated naval mine?
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Oct 25, 2015 21:47
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Mr Interweb posted:Can somebody explain what the gently caress Carson is babbling about? from my understanding. You basicaly get like 2000 in your bank account once a year instead of getting monthly medicare coverage.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:48
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Mr Interweb posted:Can somebody explain what the gently caress Carson is babbling about? Some people hire expert neocon crafters to create finely honed excuses for privatizing social services, while others just wing it. The difference in quality is readily apparent.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:49
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Bob Ojeda posted:The problem there is that, like. A Trump - Clinton race presupposes Trump winning the nomination. And at that point, every piece of conventional wisdom and structural understanding of American politics is out the window. The impossible has already occurred, so how are we supposed to know what happens next? It could be literally anything. It seems unlikely that Trump would be able to beat Clinton, but it also seemed extremely unlikely that he'd win the nomination, so who the gently caress knows, at that point? Barring some dark horse rising up, it's going to be one of the people on the stage, so which one? Jeb! is pretty much toast at this point. Carson? (would that be any better?) Rubio? Fiorina? Cruz? None of them has any staying power and everyone knows it. 2012 was a desperate search for Anyone But Mitt. In contrast 2016 is looking to be a desperate search for Anyone But Trump. This time it's the outsider candidate holding steady while the establishment desperately flails for an alternative. It's admittedly months until the delegates start getting awarded and a lot can happen in that time. I personally think Trump's tough-guy act makes him relatively teflon to the types of things that usually knock candidates out of the race. But Trump is the Id of the Republican Party right now - the White Hot Sphere Of Pure Screaming Rage that they've wanted for the past 8 years. Those two things may give him more staying power than people think. On the other hand, the GOP didn't have any problem putting a finger on the scales in 2012 with stuff like after-the-fact changes to delegate allocation rules and so on. With the House Freedom Caucus and the primary results I worry more and more that the inmates are now running the asylum. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Oct 25, 2015 |
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DolphinCop posted:any word on if the stash included a deactivated naval mine? 
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These numbers from CBS poll make no sense http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-carson-lead-field-in-iowa-trump-keeps-big-lead-in-new-hampshire-south-carolina/ Trump has a 40% in South Carolina O_o
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Oct 25, 2015 21:51
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Dapper_Swindler posted:from my understanding. You basicaly get like 2000 in your bank account once a year instead of getting monthly medicare coverage. This is the voucher system that Ryan/Romney tried to spin in 2012 in all but name.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:52
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Also, when asked about abortion being okay if the life of the mother was at stake Carson said: "I believe there's room to discuss that".
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Oct 25, 2015 21:53
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happyhippy posted:This is the voucher system that Ryan/Romney tried to spin in 2012 in all but name. Yeah that's what I thought it was as well.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:54
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Mr Interweb posted:Also, when asked about abortion being okay if the life of the mother was at stake Carson said: "I believe there's room to discuss that". "Is it a boy child? This is important." 
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Oct 25, 2015 21:56
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Hollismason posted:These numbers from CBS poll make no sense I'm a little surprised by Carson's results, but not by Trump's. It is South Carolina, after all.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:58
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Everything Carson personally doesn't like is synonymous with either nazism or slavery. His reservoir of historical knowledge is less than an inch deep. The exception being the Glenn Beck crowd, who think he's fully capable of learning this stuff, but is just being lazy about doing the (selected Glenn Beck) reading.
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I give you an article. How can we solve Southern Europe's economic crisis? Destroy Greece and Italy and return them to city-states which worked so well. You see that way the backwards parts get to be backwards and the good parts get to be good parts. How do we know this? One province of Italy has essentially been a self-governing city-state under the same guy for the better part of 25 years and look how successful it is!
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Oct 25, 2015 22:05
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Also Carson seems to be compelled to have an opinion on EVERY topic, no matter if he knows nothing about it. He HAS to show he's the smartest guy about the subject. Even if it was Farming Machinery and Agricultural Techniques of Rural 1700's Belguim, he would talk about it.
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sullat posted:Some people hire expert neocon crafters to create finely honed excuses for privatizing social services, while others just wing it. The difference in quality is readily apparent. Making it so confusing that even an informed person can't understand it is probably a big plus for the program.
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Oct 25, 2015 22:14
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happyhippy posted:Also Carson seems to be compelled to have an opinion on EVERY topic, no matter if he knows nothing about it. "I'm going to have to go research that in depth, I'll get back to you." He'd get burned alive for an answer like that, both by Trump and by those who remember Walker's punt. You can't really win. It sure is entertaining, though.
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Oct 25, 2015 22:32
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Carson's plan is for the government to contribute $2,000 to a health savings account. He thinks this will bring the provider and the patient closer together because the patient will have to make better decisions about their care. If you think 2,000 for a year in place of Medicare is a bit low, don't worry. Another feature of Carson's plan is to allow your family to sacrifice their money from their accounts to help you out. This is his plan.
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lol since when do people make "decisions" about their care I was thinking about getting cancer but since chemo is so expensive and I've only saved $6k over the past 5 years I decided I'd better not.
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