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uber_stoat posted:Well, there's the whole "rat ogre punches you in the face while the intro sequence plays" thing, but maybe that happens in other levels too? dogstile posted:Anyway, lets laugh at a really, really funny vermintide issue with the R'ogre
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Oct 26, 2015 23:07
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I dont know posted:So after playing a bit I understanding is that the following weapons are complete garbage and should never be uses. Is there anything about them that I am missing/misunderstand? Not entirely true. The WH Repeater Pistol has a magdump that's an insane burst of "Oh poo poo" damage, especially on something like a Rat Ogre. The Shotgun and Blunderbuss can become quite good with the right upgrades. Especially heal on kill or hit and 50% reload speed or piercing. Spam it to heal up when you're a Sword and Board and don't need to be knocking things over right now. The base ones are pretty bland though.
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Oct 26, 2015 23:12
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Chomp8645 posted:The funny thing about Wheat and Chaff is how out of skew the balance solely because of one tiny detail, which was "on a scale of 1-10, let's set Stormvermin spawns to 11". Without that nothing about the level would be unusual or difficult. Everything else is pretty standard, but the unending Stormvermin clowncar storm makes getting anything done almost impossible if your group isn't on top of their poo poo. Yeah and what makes it so different compared to even black powder is the lack of verticality. On BP you can atleast break up the waves a bit by going up and down forcing the rats to funnel/jump etc. W&C everything is pretty much a straight dash away from you and from all angles.
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Oct 26, 2015 23:30
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First time doing W&C was difficult as hell because everyone split up like morons. Second time we just tightened up and moved as a group, but it relies on you having a lot of "headshot stormvermin now" weapons. In other news, my friend now has a grudgeraker that can hold four shots and has switched from "awesome shielddwarf" to "lets pretend i'm a ranged class and steal all of the witchhunters ammo". gently caress you man, gently caress you.
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Oct 26, 2015 23:35
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dogstile posted:First time doing W&C was difficult as hell because everyone split up like morons. Second time we just tightened up and moved as a group, but it relies on you having a lot of "headshot stormvermin now" weapons. Or soldier tank with an ap harqubus that just loving blows them away with a chest shot. 
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Oct 26, 2015 23:39
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FrancoFish posted:Or soldier tank with an ap harqubus that just loving blows them away with a chest shot. Don't think that works on harder difficulties unfortunately.
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Oct 26, 2015 23:43
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Can anyone give me a summary of witch hunter weapons and what they are good for?
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Oct 26, 2015 23:45
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FrancoFish posted:Or soldier tank with an ap harqubus that just loving blows them away with a chest shot. I really wish I knew why the soldier's handgun would not body shot any specials/stormvermin (except a gutter runner) on normal when I used it Everybody else seems to love the thing and says stuff like this 
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Oct 26, 2015 23:48
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The grudge-raker is less desirable if you are a lovely player/your team is lovely (you are all consistently split up, people are not playing their roles, people are slow or committing the cardinal sin of stopping) and much more desirable if you are all good (you are consistently close together, people are playing their roles, everyone is making efficient progress towards the objective)
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Oct 26, 2015 23:51
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UberJew posted:I really wish I knew why the soldier's handgun would not body shot any specials/stormvermin (except a gutter runner) on normal when I used it AP Harquebus like he mentioned is one with the armour piercing trait I assume, different to a normal one. Body shotting to 1-hit kill specials with a normal weapon would be a bit ridiculous.
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Oct 26, 2015 23:54
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On normal you can definitely bodyshot a ratling gunner. Its head is so centrally placed that I may just be headshotting it by accident, though.
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Oct 27, 2015 00:03
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A blue Handgun will body-shot two Stormvermin on normal and I believe it does it on Hard, too.
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Oct 27, 2015 00:04
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My blue handgun doesn't kill stormvermin in a single bodyshot on hard and above. It only does that to packmasters and gunners.
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Oct 27, 2015 00:08
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So it's been a few days, how does this game seem to you guys? What's the map variety like?
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Oct 27, 2015 00:18
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Am I missing something about the beam staff? The shotgun blast left-click is fine, but I'm not convinced by the right-click beam. It just doesn't seem to do enough damage to specials. You can left-click while channeling the beam for a little explosion, but that's not enough either. It'll one-shot a clan rat though specials take three to four blasts so you're probably better off just using the beam the whole time.
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Oct 27, 2015 00:20
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Beam is for stunning rats, damage is really modest but the stun is real.
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Oct 27, 2015 00:21
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Turtlicious posted:So it's been a few days, how does this game seem to you guys? What's the map variety like? The maps are pretty short overall, but the specials have balls so it's more of a game of "what are they going to throw at us" more than "what is around the next corner"
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Oct 27, 2015 00:22
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Fans posted:Not entirely true. The WH Repeater Pistol has a magdump that's an insane burst of "Oh poo poo" damage, especially on something like a Rat Ogre. The Betelgeuse is such a good gun, they turned it into an entire character archetype with the Bright Wizard 
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Turtlicious posted:So it's been a few days, how does this game seem to you guys? What's the map variety like?
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Oct 27, 2015 00:31
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Although being shorter levels isn't a bad thing when you barely make it through what we have already.
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Oct 27, 2015 00:33
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Although being shorter levels isn't a bad thing when you barely make it through what we have already. Making a more bite-sized l4d is a good idea, I'd say.
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Oct 27, 2015 01:09
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Got a True Flight bow with Extended Ammo and Heal on Hit. Thanks Goons! This thing is making me love the elf even more as I spam blue swirly arrows of death around corners at Specials. I also really like the Well level, it's short, fun and a bit different to the norm without having to carry loving sacks.
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Oct 27, 2015 01:21
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Drakes posted:Beam is for stunning rats, damage is really modest but the stun is real. Why stun when you can kill?
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Oct 27, 2015 01:32
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dogstile posted:Why stun when you can kill? It's mainly for Specials. The shotgun is the real gem of the beam staff, the beams just there to be a bit useful against anything far off.
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Oct 27, 2015 01:34
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The dev team for this game works.... very quickly. Tried the 'make the AI glitch out on Black Powder' thing, and it didn't work. I think it was working as recently as this afternoon.
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Oct 27, 2015 01:36
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Backhand posted:The dev team for this game works.... very quickly. Tried the 'make the AI glitch out on Black Powder' thing, and it didn't work. I think it was working as recently as this afternoon. Did they make leaving the level work reliably yet?
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Oct 27, 2015 01:37
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I've never had a problem and I ran it three times today. e: If you mean any level, then I ran through the entire game today in a vermintide marathon (this game only takes like 4 hours to complete on normal if you're competent) and didn't have an issue either.
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Oct 27, 2015 01:39
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Backhand posted:The dev team for this game works.... very quickly. Tried the 'make the AI glitch out on Black Powder' thing, and it didn't work. I think it was working as recently as this afternoon. doing it right now and its working? Maybe you did it wrong.
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Oct 27, 2015 01:39
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I can roll a blue coach gun while playing Soldier but am carrying 3 white arqebus which is the weapon I actually use. Oh well at least if I get 2 more whites I can trade them in for a green. It will probably be 3% chance on hit to regain 1 ammo
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Oct 27, 2015 01:55
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I snipe with the dorf shotgun all the time. Just slow your fire and you can easily hit something farther away. It really is best in thinning the heard from farther away or clearly out rats from coming up your back side.
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Oct 27, 2015 02:05
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So you know how the Trueshot arrows will circle around a target if it doesn't have a good vector? I'm pretty sure that it hurts the tank every time it passes through their body. I hit him several times and made a whirlwind around him, and he just passed out
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hooman posted:I can roll a blue coach gun while playing Soldier but am carrying 3 white arqebus which is the weapon I actually use. Oh well at least if I get 2 more whites I can trade them in for a green. I gambled when i got my 4th harque and put in a rider gun with it that was white and it came out green. Then I took my 5 greens and urned them into a blue it had the cool trait of 80-100% chance to penetrate and hit another target, sadly no fast reload which my current blue has. When you get that fast reload trait you'll be the happiest man alive.
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Oct 27, 2015 03:00
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Ugh, I can feel the difference between my dwarf's blue handgun (fast reload) and my soldier's blue handgun (no fast reload). One of these classes is BAM BAM BAM, the other is me furiously praying I get the bullet in the barrel before a rat can come over and hit me again.
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Oct 27, 2015 03:03
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I was super happy when the first thing my Witch got was a blue staff. I was super disappointed to discover the AOE of the default staff is better than anything else this blue has to offer. 
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AegisP posted:Ugh, I can feel the difference between my dwarf's blue handgun (fast reload) and my soldier's blue handgun (no fast reload). One of these classes is BAM BAM BAM, the other is me furiously praying I get the bullet in the barrel before a rat can come over and hit me again.
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Oct 27, 2015 03:20
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Right now I'd just like to be able to do something with all of my useless duplicate trinkets. Kinda sucks when I get one I already have since I effectively received nothing as a reward.
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Ravenfood posted:Related to this, it'd be nice if, after (if) they add DLC characters that some weapons get listed as cross-class. The greatswords, handguns, and crossbows are probably the biggest examples of cross-class weapons and it'd cut down on some of the frustration of not getting any of the weapons you want. Which is mostly fine for now, but if/when more characters get added it'll only get worse. Elaborating on that, cross class weapons could have certain bonuses regarding where the weapon comes from, like say a Dwarf handgun fires faster than an Empire Harquebus, but the Harquebus has more accuracy, or summat. I loving love the sound that Globadiers make. It's like a steam engine from hell.
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Oct 27, 2015 03:28
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Two loving hard runs in a row, carried out a tome and a grimoire each time. Rolled a one. Twice in a loving row.
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PSA about the docks map, in the warehouse where you have to throw exploding barrels into the central structure: there is a little ledge made of planks that get you close enough to the center to throw the barrel into the middle spot. If you do not throw it from there, you will miss and make everyone take another minute or so to get another barrel ready. Stop causing me to lose every run because you try the same throw from the side 5 loving times and can't get it through your thick goddam head that it will never work. Do not then call me an idiot and/or rear end in a top hat for coming down to personally throw the barrel in because "that's not how you do this map". Sorry, I am salty about bad elf pubbies. sirtommygunn fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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