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drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U69RapHrXKU

End of month car manufacturing peep shows.

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Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
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You know who shouldn't wear a helmet? Abbott

Latika has something to say about helmets posted:

Tony Abbott urges Europe to adopt boat turnbacks in response to refugee crisis

London: Europe's compassion towards refugees is leading it into "catastrophic error", Tony Abbott is expected to warn a gathering of political leaders in London on Tuesday night. The recently ousted prime minister will reportedly also talk up Australia's policy of asylum seeker boat turnbacks, urging European countries to follow suit.

The professed Catholic, surprisingly, will speak against one of Jesus' 'greatest commandments', according to an excerpt of the speech given to News Corp media ahead of its delivery.

"The imperative to 'love your neighbour as yourself' is at the heart of every Western polity… but right now this wholesome instinct is leading much of Europe into catastrophic error," Mr Abbott is to say.

In the Bible, Jesus is asked what is the greatest commandment and replies "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind... And the second is like it: Love your neighbour as yourself."

Mr Abbott is due to give the keynote address at the second annual Margaret Thatcher Lecture at London's Guildhall.

The lecture, given in the former British prime minister's memory, accompanies a fundraising event for the Margaret Thatcher Centre, which aims to educate future generations about the UK leader's life, values and achievements.

In a part of the lecture given to News Corp journalists, Mr Abbott says "All countries that say 'anyone who gets here can stay here' are now in peril, given the scale of the population movements that are starting to be seen. There are tens - perhaps hundreds - of millions of people, living in poverty and danger, who might readily seek to enter a Western country if the opportunity is there.

"Who could blame them? Yet no country or continent can open its borders to all comers without fundamentally weakening itself. This is the risk that the countries of Europe now run through misguided altruism."

Mr Abbott says he was "loath to give public advice to other countries" when he was prime minister.

But he says Australia was the only country that had successfully defeated people smuggling, and "our experience should be studied".


[POSTERS NOTE: I HAVE GIVEN UP BOLDING STUFF HERE, JUST BOLD THE WHOLE THING]

"Our moral obligation is to receive people fleeing for their lives," he says. "It's not to provide permanent residency to anyone who would rather live in a prosperous Western country than their own. That's why the countries of Europe, while absolutely obliged to support the countries neighbouring the Syrian conflict, are more than entitled to control their borders against those who are no longer fleeing a conflict but seeking a better life.

"This means turning boats around, for people coming by sea. It means denying entry at the border, for people with no legal right to come; and it means establishing camps for people who currently have nowhere to go.

"It will require some force; it will require massive logistics and expense; it will gnaw at our consciences - yet it is the only way to prevent a tide of humanity surging through Europe and quite possibly changing it forever."

Mr Abbott also says it was "striking how little has been done" to address the problem of ISIS at its source.

"It can't be defeated without more effective local forces on the ground."

"Those who won't use decisive force where needed end up being dictated to by those who will.

"Leaving anywhere, even Syria, to the collective determination of Russia, Iran and Daesh should be too horrible to contemplate."

The previous evening, Mr Abbott had attended drinks at a free market think-tank in London where he offered policy and political tips to a UKIP MEP (member of the European Parliament).

Mr Abbott had been the star guest at an Australian Liberals Abroad event, held at the Institute of Economic Affairs in London.

UKIP is a British right-wing liberal party advocating stricter migration controls including an Australian-style 'stop the boats' policy in the Mediterranean.

Zahki
Nov 7, 2004

Abbott is 100% correct there. The refugee crisis in Europe is going to have terrible consequences over the coming years. I dunno why people think there is an aura around the Middle East that causes people to be regressive shitheads and that once they flee they'll surely see the light of liberalism and embrace womens and gay rights instead of just forming a voting bloc that will reinforce the conservative base and fight to remove those rights. The Middle East is terrible because the people living there are terrible and right now Europe is welcoming them in en masse for some reason.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Zahki posted:

Abbott is 100% correct there. The refugee crisis in Europe is going to have terrible consequences over the coming years. I dunno why people think there is an aura around the Middle East that causes people to be regressive shitheads and that once they flee they'll surely see the light of liberalism and embrace womens and gay rights instead of just forming a voting bloc that will reinforce the conservative base and fight to remove those rights. The Middle East is terrible because the people living there are terrible and right now Europe is welcoming them in en masse for some reason.

David Cameron said in the last week that UK / USA / AUS action in the Middle East caused the rise of ISIS. If they're so worried about this problem then maybe they should have not literally done everything in their power to create the problem. Crying over how much your own actions are effecting you is pretty pathetic. Feel free to not let facts get in the way of your racism though.

Zahki
Nov 7, 2004

Birb Katter posted:

If they're so worried about this problem then maybe they should have not literally done everything in their power to create the problem.

Removing Hussein was a bad move of course, many people called it even back then. But even then all it did was remove the lid and let the poo poo that was already festering there bubble to the surface. The only mistake made was not committing the appropriate level of resources needed to stay there long term and stabilize the region. It's not the Wests fault that the region has an enormous amount of Islamic fundamentalists who are willing to pick up arms and kill each other over stupid poo poo, they've been there for a long time before the west ever intervened.

Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip
what about the time the middle East was inventing maths while the west played with their dicks in the mud

and the time the pope said "we should go gently caress up the holy land"

asio
Nov 29, 2008

"Also Sprach Arnold Jacobs: A Developmental Guide for Brass Wind Musicians" refers to the mullet as an important tool for professional cornet playing and box smashing black and blood

Zahki posted:

Removing Hussein was a bad move of course, many people called it even back then. But even then all it did was remove the lid and let the poo poo that was already festering there bubble to the surface. The only mistake made was not committing the appropriate level of resources needed to stay there long term and stabilize the region. It's not the Wests fault that the region has an enormous amount of Islamic fundamentalists who are willing to pick up arms and kill each other over stupid poo poo, they've been there for a long time before the west ever intervened.

It is our destiny to tame the middle east and bring them into correct thinking.

Also lol because Australia is full of radicals waiting to pick up a gun and shoot people they don't like. We accelerate when we see aboriginals on the road, we kill them in camps, we go to nazi rallies and call for Muslims against the wall.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Birb Katter posted:

Nice to know you had some class



Ah yes, Tennants, the classiest drink of my people.

Next to Buckfast.

BCR
Jan 23, 2011

Zahki posted:

It's not the Wests fault that the region has an enormous amount of Islamic fundamentalists who are willing to pick up arms and kill each other over stupid poo poo, they've been there for a long time before the west ever intervened.

The size and scope of Islamic fundamentalism in the middle east is a result of western policy against Arabic socialists and secularists as part of cold war policy, the backing of Israel and supporting Saudi Arabia and tolerating its export of Wahhabism.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
This Abbott guy seems like a huge fuckwit/

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

BCR posted:

The size and scope of Islamic fundamentalism in the middle east is a result of western policy against Arabic socialists and secularists as part of cold war policy, the backing of Israel and supporting Saudi Arabia and tolerating its export of Wahhabism.

You should all watch at some point the documentary "The Power of Nightmares", which talks about this sort of thing.

Don't phone click this link, as it connects to the first part which is an hour long

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x20su5f_the-power-of-nightmares-1-the-rise-of-the-politics-of-fear-bbc-2004_news

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

Zahki posted:

Abbott is 100% correct there. The refugee crisis in Europe is going to have terrible consequences over the coming years. I dunno why people think there is an aura around the Middle East that causes people to be regressive shitheads and that once they flee they'll surely see the light of liberalism and embrace womens and gay rights instead of just forming a voting bloc that will reinforce the conservative base and fight to remove those rights. The Middle East is terrible because the people living there are terrible and right now Europe is welcoming them in en masse for some reason.

i agree, the arab untermensch are guilty of wrongthink and their punishment is to live in fear of the day they get bombed by an american/russian drone or an isis deathsquad rolls up and kills them and their family. a good, ~~Compassionate Lefty~~ opinion

Zahki posted:

It's not the Wests fault that the region has an enormous amount of Islamic fundamentalists who are willing to pick up arms and kill each other over stupid poo poo, they've been there for a long time before the west ever intervened.

:allears::allears::allears::allears::allears::allears::allears::allears::allears::allears::allears::allears::allears::allears::allears::allears::allears::allears::allears::allears:

BBJoey fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Oct 27, 2015

Au Revoir Shosanna
Feb 17, 2011

i support this government and/or service
Abbott would have been legitimately dangerous if he weren't so loving dumb.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE
If you want to feel good about your day today click on a link to a domestic violence article on The ABC. They now include a ticker for how many times the police will have dealt with a domestic violence issue that day. :smith: (domestic violence is a good thing right? We're pulling huge amounts of resources from stopping it so it must be a solved problem).

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

Birb Katter posted:

You know who shouldn't wear a helmet? Abbott

Lol. Turns out Abbott wasn't just spruiking a shallow, idiotic, and cruel policy purely to manipulate the masses. He really does believe this poo poo is his legacy, and will do a global tour to solidify that image. I guess some people want to be remembered like Ivan the Terrible.

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
UK conservative leader Nigel Farage praises former prime minister Tony Abbott's call for European countries to close their borders to asylum seekers as "heroic".

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

QUACKTASTIC posted:

UK conservative leader Nigel Farage praises former prime minister Tony Abbott's call for European countries to close their borders to asylum seekers as "heroic".

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Turnbull is saying that stopping coal mines now would cause "energy poverty" and there is a "strong moral case to build more mines".

gently caress this smooth talking shill. The gently caress is energy poverty? We're sitting on bucketloads of sunshine and uranium and he thinks dropping coal will make some buzzword that involves the word poverty change that?

Auuuuuuuuuuggggggggghhhhhhhhh

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

He means poverty for people who own energy companies.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

The United Nations has weighed into the long-running controversy over the pregnant refugee Abyan, urging Nauru and Australia to find a “decent” healthcare outcome and condemning the culture of “impunity” for crimes committed against asylum seekers and refugees.

Abyan, 23, was allegedly raped on Nauru on 18 July and became pregnant. She has been asking to terminate the unwanted pregnancy since 1 September.

We're going to loving put this off until it's way too late.

trunkh
Jan 31, 2011



Anidav posted:

Turnbull is saying that stopping coal mines now would cause "energy poverty" and there is a "strong moral case to build more mines".

gently caress this smooth talking shill. The gently caress is energy poverty? We're sitting on bucketloads of sunshine and uranium and he thinks dropping coal will make some buzzword that involves the word poverty change that?

Auuuuuuuuuuggggggggghhhhhhhhh

Yeah were right hosed. I Was listening to question time or something of the likes recently and Turnbull fielded what was meant to be a gotcha question re the plebiscite from Shorten.

He turned it around and made Shorten look like a complete dunce for even asking the question in positioning his response that Shorten did not have faith in the Australian public and media to be able to have a civil discussion on the issue.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



tardwrangler posted:

Plimer never got over losing his house fighting the Answers in Genesis mob in the courts.
He is a complete ratbag but "A Short History Of Planet Earth" is a 1st class dunny read.

What was this about?


Zahki posted:

Abbott is 100% correct there. The refugee crisis in Europe is going to have terrible consequences over the coming years. I dunno why people think there is an aura around the Middle East that causes people to be regressive shitheads and that once they flee they'll surely see the light of liberalism and embrace womens and gay rights instead of just forming a voting bloc that will reinforce the conservative base and fight to remove those rights. The Middle East is terrible because the people living there are terrible and right now Europe is welcoming them in en masse for some reason.

It makes me hella sad that people actually think like this. You recognize we already have conservatives and you understand that people are fleeing ultraconservative theocracy but you're still scared of this.

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

katlington posted:

It makes me hella sad that people actually think like this. You recognize we already have conservatives and you understand that people are fleeing ultraconservative theocracy but you're still scared of this.

"Perhaps the desperate people fleeing ultraconservative hellholes will appreciate being treated with kindness by liberal democracies and (if they weren't already left-leaning) become supporters of liberal policies. Hmm, no, better to abandon them and let them die in said hellholes born of the West's imperialist meddling." :downs:

I mean, what kind of message do these ~gently caress off we're full~ people think they're sending? Saying "no us enlightened liberal democracies don't want your sort" is only going to create more hate and radicalisation.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
Hey guys have you thought that maybe white people really are just genetically superior anyway peace

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
send all LNP voters to Syria the Sun IMO

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

And that improves that newspaper how?

Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip

Solemn Sloth posted:

Hey guys have you thought that maybe white people really are just genetically superior anyway peace

uh if you cared to engage his original point at all it was actually that middle Eastern folk are inherently barbaric regardless of how much white folk want to nuke them

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Solemn Sloth posted:

Hey guys have you thought that maybe white people really are just genetically superior anyway peace

Counterpoint: Queensland.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Counterpoint: Queensland.

That sun creates a lot of tan which is basically just the start of a race of brown people.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/fairfield-councillor-george-barcha-fighting-expulsion-from-alp-20151027-gkjv6g.html

Another day, another ALP branch stacking scandal.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Who the gently caress invites Abbott to give a keynote speech about something? Like, gee, who would be a really respected and successful neoliberal policy maven? Oh, I know, let's book the former Australian prime minister who was so incompetent and widely hated that his own party rolled him before his first term was even out, making him the shortest-serving PM in 30 years. Let's get that bloke. That won't be an absolute joke.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

freebooter posted:

Who the gently caress invites Abbott to give a keynote speech about something? Like, gee, who would be a really respected and successful neoliberal policy maven? Oh, I know, let's book the former Australian prime minister who was so incompetent and widely hated that his own party rolled him before his first term was even out, making him the shortest-serving PM in 30 years. Let's get that bloke. That won't be an absolute joke.

It was the Margaret Thatcher memorial dinner. Which actually makes perfect sense.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

freebooter posted:

Who the gently caress invites Abbott to give a keynote speech about something? Like, gee, who would be a really respected and successful neoliberal policy maven? Oh, I know, let's book the former Australian prime minister who was so incompetent and widely hated that his own party rolled him before his first term was even out, making him the shortest-serving PM in 30 years. Let's get that bloke. That won't be an absolute joke.

Its a meeting of Thatcherite's. Not exactly sharp.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

That's why it's called the boys club not the competent person club.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
From a Murdoch UK paper

"Push migrants back into sea, Abbott tells Europe"

Thats quite the angle.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007



pressing b

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
Real tories would turn their noses up at Abbott. A scholarship boy from the colonies... How plebian.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
Tony Abbott was our Australian equivalent of Donald Trump, though gentler and better educated. He is a more of a realist on immigration and climate alarmism. So the leftists conspired with the self-seeking opportunist, Malcolm Turnbull to oust him, another millionaire like Fat Al Gore who profits from the delusions of dopey socialists. Opposition Leader, Bill Shorten, has taken umbrage that Tony Abbott has had the temerity to voice an informed opinion that contradicts his own anodyne fantasies. But it may be that Tony Abbott's warning will be taken seriously by the Europeans who matter, and th...See More

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

BCR posted:

You have a right as an adult to 24 hour alcohol? What grants this right?

My ability as an educated person with the knowledge to turn grain and yeast into ethanol.
I can brew and distill any hour of the day.

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Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

BCR posted:

You have a right as an adult to 24 hour alcohol? What grants this right?

mabo, the constitution, the vibe

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