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Nissans pitch though is it's more capable than a 1/2 ton and cheaper than a 3/4 ton. it might not be either. the "3/4 ton hangup" is that at 8500lb gvwr, the government views it as a heavy truck. emissions standards change and insurance costs change. If you straddle the line, you have to meet both standards on a truck by truck basis, so the big 3 build 1/2 tons to be under, and 3/4 tons to be over. Powershift fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Oct 31, 2015 |
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blk posted:I think I remember you posting a Miata somewhere sunny on Ars a long time ago when I was active on the site - do you still have the same one? Funny how we ended up with the same garage minus the sweet press cars. Hey, a fellow Saabaru owner!
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Powershift posted:It could also end up having a lower payload and max tow rating than the f-150. It's also likely to be hideously expensive. And VW drug diesels through the mud. Keep in mind that data is from a Motor Trend real world test, not the pie in the sky EPA bullshit.
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Throatwarbler posted:5.0l diesel Titan gets 17mpg That's on par with edmunds 2.7L ecoboost f150 though. Seems pretty good actually? http://www.edmunds.com/ford/f-150/2015/long-term-road-test/2015-ford-f-150-fuel-economy-update-for-february.html
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The best thing about the new Titan is going to be the post-incentives pricing when they fail to sell on account of being a lovely obese half-measure aimed squarely at a tiny slice of the truck buying market. I look at the Leaf and think poo poo, Nissan has things figured out. But I look at anything else they make and have to wonder what the gently caress is wrong with them.
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Wheeee posted:The best thing about the new Titan is going to be the post-incentives pricing when they fail to sell on account of being a lovely obese half-measure aimed squarely at a tiny slice of the truck buying market. I can't wait. (I'm that tiny slice of the truck buying market)
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Maybe it'll light a fire under Toyota's rear end since they won't be the only non-American truck in town anymore. Much as I like the Tundra I just don't think I could justify one over a Sierra at this point.
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blk posted:I think I remember you posting a Miata somewhere sunny on Ars a long time ago when I was active on the site - do you still have the same one? Funny how we ended up with the same garage minus the sweet press cars. Yup, same one I bought when I moved to San Diego from the UK back in 2002. It's a bit the worse for wear now. Needs new tires which means new wheels because you can't get 14" all season performance tires anymore. Plus someone broke into it last year and hosed up the wiring underneath the dash so now the speedo doesn't work and there's a short so I have to leave it parked with the battery disconnected otherwise it drains and kills it. But neither my wife nor I want to sell it, so it's parked up and gets driven occasionally. Are you as terrified as I am about getting any body damage on the Saaburu?
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Aren't diesel trucks supposed to get much better economy while towing than gas trucks, regardless of what they get while empty. Maybe that's the point.
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Yes they do, but do you want to test a v8 cummings diesel for reliability? Didn't pretty much every single new diesel engine have teething problems for years? Duramax cracked blocks, fords all had something, etc. I think the new 6.7L ford has been good but not out long enough either.
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Throatwarbler posted:Aren't diesel trucks supposed to get much better economy while towing than gas trucks, regardless of what they get while empty. Maybe that's the point. Old ones did. New ones don't seem to have the same benefits anymore, with all the electronic aids to pass emissions.
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D C posted:Keep in mind that data is from a Motor Trend real world test, not the pie in the sky EPA bullshit. Throatwarbler posted:Aren't diesel trucks supposed to get much better economy while towing than gas trucks, regardless of what they get while empty. Maybe that's the point. They should be to a point, but combination weight plays a big factor and the titan has a whole bunch of Nissan to lug around in top of its load. A 900lb motor plus a transmission to handle 500 some ftlbs plus a frame to hold that weight in place, it doesn't make much sense to try to stay under 8500lbs just for marketing.
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drgitlin posted:because you can't get 14" all season performance 
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14 INCH DICK posted:I dunno the bitch rear end lies you been told but I am full throttle year round baby A man for all seasons
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Scion's bringing a lowrider to SEMA. That grille  e: more like 
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Do you guys think the 2016 Malibu will be better than competing stuff like the new Accord? I'm really loving the designs for GMs latest cars. The Camaro, Malibu and Cruze all look awesome inside and out.
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Kraftwerk posted:Do you guys think the 2016 Malibu will be better than competing stuff like the new Accord? I'm really loving the designs for GMs latest cars. The Camaro, Malibu and Cruze all look awesome inside and out. I kinda wish they'd name the next gen Malibu something new. When I hear 'Malibu' I instantly think 'rental car'.
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All I really wanna see out of a new Malibu is it being Alpha-based with the 3.6 Twin Turbo engine on an SS trim. Build the new Impala on it too, but put an LT1 in it for an SS trim. Then GM will have repented for it's sins in my book.
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While we're at it, I'll take a rebirth of the Honda S2000 at under 20k.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:While we're at it, I'll take a rebirth of the Honda S2000 at under 20k. Honestly talking about GM making cool/exciting/fun cars that aren't Camaro or Corvette makes me feel like a battered wife. He told me HE CHANGED!
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You can get an ATS V for only $75,000! I don't really understand why they needed to put a TT V6 in it when they could have saved a bunch of production costs and used the LT1 heated game moment fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Nov 1, 2015 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:While we're at it, I'll take a rebirth of the Honda S2000 at under 20k. Anything they make now would just be a bastardization of what it really should be unfortunately
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Nodoze posted:Anything they make now would just be a bastardization of what it really should be unfortunately Kinda like the last time they made a MX5/S2k competitor?
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Dislike button posted:You can get an ATS V for only $75,000! Tuners are already getting pretty insane numbers out of the ATS-V so I think it's going to be ok. Like well over 500 at the wheels with bolt ons and a tune.
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Im still expecting a special edition 3.5EB Mustang at some point. I'll be disappointed if they use a 2.7EB.
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Unfortunately there's a problem with a lot of the newer GM models. Going with the LT in the new Camaro means you have to deal with the DoD system limiting any gains you can get out of the engine. They really should have just kept the LS3. Basically minus a few cosmetic tunes the only way you're gonna have fun with the new Camaro SS is to cam it right away and that's way too much of a bitch. For less money you could probably tune the turbo4 Camaro to 500hp and still come out ahead financially and in performance. Same issues with the new Z06. They have the wrong blower in it and your performance will degrade the more you drive it thanks to heat soak. When you really look at the engineering for these newer GMs you can see tons of corner cutting and bullshit decisions that hurt the car. I would even argue an older early 2000s Camaro V6 is a better deal. The bullshit fuel economy measures they've taken with a lot of new cars is strangling the options tuners got to really get optimal performance out of their cars. Maybe this is what your trade off is for not getting something like a C63.
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Kraftwerk posted:Unfortunately there's a problem with a lot of the newer GM models. Going with the LT in the new Camaro means you have to deal with the DoD system limiting any gains you can get out of the engine. They really should have just kept the LS3. This is some good satire of a Jalopnik comment, nicely done.
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Kraftwerk posted:Unfortunately there's a problem with a lot of the newer GM models. Going with the LT in the new Camaro means you have to deal with the DoD system limiting any gains you can get out of the engine. They really should have just kept the LS3. lomarf
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Kraftwerk posted:I would even argue an older early 2000s Camaro V6 is a better deal. The Camaro has been on a downhill slide ever since reaching the zenith that was, the V6 catfish.
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oRenj9 posted:The Camaro has been on a downhill slide ever since reaching the zenith that was, the V6 catfish. This argument seemed to work on a good amount of my high school classmates.
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New Land Rover Discovery. Looks like a box. http://www.autoblog.com/2015/10/31/2017-land-rover-discovery-lr4-lr5-spy-shots/#slide-3685543
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Throatwarbler posted:New Land Rover Discovery. Looks like a box. They will not stop until every model is an Escalade.
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It's not like Land Rovers beng nouveau riche trash is something new. That said, and to be fair, the British occasionally do something of value.
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Scion's bringing a lowrider to SEMA. Saints Row 5 graphics looking hella sweet
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If that Discovery looks the same as the render I saw earlier in the year that they were looking to put out then it's a great looking car with a couple of nice little design touches and nods to the old versions, of particular note the 'panel' on the back of the rear passenger doors that breaks up the rear windows. On the render it looked really cool, dunno how it'll affect visibility for anyone sat in the middle row though. The render was done in oldschool Land Rover green and it was smart and considering I've not liked anything they've put out since forever I was quite surprised at how much the render made me appreciate the design.
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Cool video about the GT350, just try to ignore the jokes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbbNlkP-ZSM
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Rather unsurprisingly, more VAG diesels caught with emissions testing cheating: http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/0/4A45A5661216E66C85257EF10061867B
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A bunch of ride along reviews have come out for the Focus RS and they all hype the car. Waiting for this car is slowly killing me.
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GokieKS posted:Rather unsurprisingly, more VAG diesels caught with emissions testing cheating: http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/0/4A45A5661216E66C85257EF10061867B "Wait, you mean we were supposed to be looking at the 3.0 too? I thought we were just investigating our 2.0 engines. Silly us!" -VW
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This is like the car maker equivalent of resisting arrest, right? So they're probably going to be paying the maximum fine now?
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