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Welp, Lilith unlocked the SMB achievement for me. She's OP.
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What's great about the IV bag? Just a ready source of coins?
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Nov 2, 2015 15:19
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Bleremiah posted:What's great about the IV bag? Just a ready source of coins? More coins per use than a heart costs on average
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Nov 2, 2015 15:23
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Anti-grav tears on Azazel is SO weird. It would have really messed up my Dark Room run if I didn't have Lil' Brimstone.
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Nov 2, 2015 15:24
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It's extremely cool that a Brimstone Ghost can instantly kill me without warning from offscreen when I finally get some momentum as the Lost in Greed Mode.
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Nov 2, 2015 15:37
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ErIog posted:So the data miners found some plain text snippets among the encrypted data files: I'm going to enjoy the "easy" Greed mode while I can. My gut tells me that Edmund is the type to turn the difficulty of that mode around, based on how he likes to nerf things people complain make the game too easy.
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Nov 2, 2015 15:48
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ErIog posted:So the data miners found some plain text snippets among the encrypted data files: I'm pretty sure this is just a way to tell data miners to gently caress off.
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Nov 2, 2015 16:21
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I guess someone figured out how to break Daily Runs already
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Nov 2, 2015 16:25
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Dammerung posted:It happens, and don't worry too much about it - it looks like it's capped, in general, at 109 for whatever reason. Well, just had a run where I got the IV bag, swallowed penny, and piggy bank. The hardest part was I got that item which makes you constantly fire tears, which made it really hard to see anything on the ground.
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Nov 2, 2015 16:51
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I found a weird glitch today. I'm not exactly sure what happened, but I was fighting Little Horn and fell into one of its holes. Afterwards, I was completely immune to all enemy damage. I could walk into them and tank their shots without getting hit. However, I was also no longer able to pick up any items. I was still able to damage enemies, though, so this probably would have been a guaranteed victory.
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Nov 2, 2015 17:01
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BillmasterCozb posted:Welp, Lilith unlocked the SMB achievement for me. She's OP. She seems great for greed mode, but pretty meh for regular runs
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Nov 2, 2015 17:05
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JoshVanValkenburg posted:She seems great for greed mode, but pretty meh for regular runs It depends on your setup. If you get a baby train going or reliable energy gain she is a complete monster.
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Nov 2, 2015 17:08
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drat multiplicative chances for Angel rooms. Math class was so long ago. So, i know to calculate chances for something like 50% + 25% multiplicatively, you do: 1- [ (1 - 0.5) * (1 - 0.25) ] = 0.625 = 62.5% So how do i work chance decreases into this? Something like 50% + 25% - 10%? Is it: 1 - [ (1 - 0.5) * (1 - 0.25) / (1 - 0.1) ] = 58.33% ? Or do i multiply with 1.1 instead for 58.75% ? Hope someone is better versed in math than me here, i'd rather not have to get my old math books from the attic just for Isaac. 
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Nov 2, 2015 17:13
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I think I've only done two normal runs with her now, and I only have Mega Satan left to do with her outside of hard mode stuff. I don't even think I got anything super OP for either of those runs either, just solid items. Maggy continues to be my least favorite character not counting the Lost for obvious reasons. I can't seem to get anywhere on a Greed run with maggy, I just get overwhelmed on the first floor. I guess I could hit the stop button, but I haven't had to do that with other characters. 
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Nov 2, 2015 17:14
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JoshVanValkenburg posted:She seems great for greed mode, but pretty meh for regular runs It depends on the RNG as with all things, but familiars are pretty common and it doesn't take many of them to get a pain train going. On my first run with her I was able to have two of the default familiars throwing Mom's Knives and a pair of Daddy Long Legs instantly stomping things. That was enough to steam roll all the way through Satan
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Nov 2, 2015 17:26
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Oxyclean posted:I think I've only done two normal runs with her now, and I only have Mega Satan left to do with her outside of hard mode stuff. I don't even think I got anything super OP for either of those runs either, just solid items. If you want to get it done and don't care about scumming, restart until you get a blood bank in the shop, then play it until you get an IV bag, then try and hope for swallowed penny or piggy bank (or both). Buy every HP-up you can, too.
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Nov 2, 2015 17:26
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Edmund took to Twitter and posted these: "god i hate the fact that i need to do this but there are so many butt tards out there so ill clear it up..." "all the features on the steam page are true minus one.. but not the one you are thinking, also i wish death upon all the non believers!" "look to la luna bitches!" "im hiding the remaining content beyond a series of micro-transactions that im calling an ARG, i also require the souls of the non believers" Since he's referring to it as an ARG I'm going to assume not all the content is actually in the game yet, and it's not going to start until the patch comes out later in the week.
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Nov 2, 2015 17:27
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Oxyclean posted:I think I've only done two normal runs with her now, and I only have Mega Satan left to do with her outside of hard mode stuff. I don't even think I got anything super OP for either of those runs either, just solid items. I got Whore of Babbylon on a devil deal early, then played EVE JR mode. That might help
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Nov 2, 2015 17:28
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ErIog posted:Edmund took to Twitter and posted these:
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Nov 2, 2015 17:30
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So is it possible now to do a seeded run to get the Eden's Gift thing and say a Dead Cat or Holy Mantle to be able to start up Lost runs quicker? I know the spectral tears and D4 help some, but I was never skilled enough to get very far on The Lost without some backup and hated sitting and spam rerolling looking for something good.
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Nov 2, 2015 17:30
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Rorus Raz posted:I cannot believe he's still this upset over the stupid Lost thing. Every time I read something from him I become quietly convinced that SMB and BoI are good at least partially by sheer accident.
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Nov 2, 2015 17:32
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The Haunt in a half-sized room as a first floor boss, what the gently caress were you even thinking
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Nov 2, 2015 17:33
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JoshVanValkenburg posted:I got Whore of Babbylon on a devil deal early, then played EVE JR mode. That might help Yeah, Maggy's advantage is that she has a lot of starting HP to make those devil deals....but her lacking speed and damage combined with my being-bad-at-video-games means getting to the devil deal is tricky. Fuego Fish posted:If you want to get it done and don't care about scumming, restart until you get a blood bank in the shop, then play it until you get an IV bag, then try and hope for swallowed penny or piggy bank (or both). Buy every HP-up you can, too. Oh man, and I thought breaking Greed Mode with excessive bombs/bomb projectiles for infinite shop rerolling was nuts. Looking forward to trying this tonight.
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Nov 2, 2015 17:35
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ErIog posted:Edmund took to Twitter and posted these: uh, we still talking about BoI here?
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Nov 2, 2015 17:36
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Ok so if he's insisting that the steam page is accurate and there actually are 120 new items, that means there must be a ton that haven't been found yet, yeah? Just judging from the platinum god page we should still be missing something like 15-25 items.
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Nov 2, 2015 17:36
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Must be really gated when you can't even use cheat engine to get them
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Nov 2, 2015 17:39
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Jusupov posted:Must be really gated when you can't even use cheat engine to get them Well one of them you actually can use cheat engine to get. Other things, though, like sprites for the second new character are missing right now unless they've done some clever encryption that I'm not sure they're really capable of.
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Nov 2, 2015 17:49
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Prop Wash posted:The Haunt in a half-sized room as a first floor boss, what the gently caress were you even thinking "Welcome to the gently caress Corridor.  " - Edmund
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Nov 2, 2015 18:02
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He does that a lot!
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Nov 2, 2015 18:10
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ErIog posted:Well one of them you actually can use cheat engine to get. Other things, though, like sprites for the second new character are missing right now unless they've done some clever encryption that I'm not sure they're really capable of. I legit wonder if part of the reason it's crashy and messed up is they were slopping pulling stuff out after Q-Aing.
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Nov 2, 2015 18:15
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My personal gently caress corridor came in the form of a narrow hallway with Pestilence as the boss. At some points I could count the pixels on the floor that weren't blocked by poison goo. Honestly I couldn't even get mad about that, it was a hilarious clusterfuck
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Nov 2, 2015 18:16
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Maybe having narrow boss rooms is just a bad idea and should be scrapped
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Nov 2, 2015 18:17
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Speaking of, it'll be interesting to see how the people who make their livelihood off streaming this game react to some of the changes. For better or worse, it seems like the expansion added a lot of situations where death is pretty much guaranteed. Like going into a fight with The Haunt with one heart, it's not technically impossible but you have to hope that luck is on your side. Cobalt in particular I feel like is going to have trouble getting PBs anymore.
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Nov 2, 2015 18:18
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PantsBandit posted:Speaking of, it'll be interesting to see how the people who make their livelihood off streaming this game react to some of the changes. For better or worse, it seems like the expansion added a lot of situations where death is pretty much guaranteed. Like going into a fight with The Haunt with one heart, it's not technically impossible but you have to hope that luck is on your side. Cobalt in particular I feel like is going to have trouble getting PBs anymore. Yeah I don't think it's quite hit him yet since he is just running through the game right now, but p sure streaks are a thing of the past for this game.
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Nov 2, 2015 18:26
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I posted this when it happened and everyone here disagreed at the time but it's real dumb to get mad at the lost dataminers because the actual puzzle/arg/game/whatever was figured out. Literally all that was left to do was the execution of putting the puzzle pieces together (which had already started). The dataminers did nothing but speed up the unlock process by like a day. I can't imagine why anyone think that's a big deal, back then or now. Its not like the actual arg was compromised, it just didn't get fully executed, but it was understood what to do by the point the data miners finished, the actual "puzzle" was solved, it was just a matter of waiting for other people to tediously suicide themselves in a sacrifice room dozens of times. I'm honestly not sure what delaying the rest of the content a week actually accomplishes versus just releasing it all back on Friday.
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Nov 2, 2015 18:28
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He had a run with the lost last night where he made it to the dark room, then died because a red chest warped him into the devil room. There was one of those little floating demon dudes in there hidden behind the statue, it hit him twice before he could even react. Poor dude just sat there with a thousand yard stare haha
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Nov 2, 2015 18:29
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ImpAtom posted:Every time I read something from him I become quietly convinced that SMB and BoI are good at least partially by sheer accident. Dude has good ideas, but boy does he have issues. I think SMB is the only thing that worked out the way he intended for him. I agree that a lot of things in BOI he seems to have stumbled upon by accident. A few blog posts on upcoming items and game modes really didn't turn out the way he intended once the game actually game out. For example, the Champion Belt was meant to be a high risk, high reward item. In practice, it's a pickup most of the time, because it's a huge damage increase, and champions aren't that much harder to deal with. And more champions means more pickups.
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Dr. Fetus posted:Dude has good ideas, but boy does he have issues. I think SMB is the only thing that worked out the way he intended for him. I agree that a lot of things in BOI he seems to have stumbled upon by accident. A few blog posts on upcoming items and game modes really didn't turn out the way he intended once the game actually game out. For example, the Champion Belt was meant to be a high risk, high reward item. In practice, it's a pickup most of the time, because it's a huge damage increase, and champions aren't that much harder to deal with. And more champions means more pickups. I think he has an odd idea of what threatening and what is fun in the game. He seems to under-emphasize certain things (bouncing foes, small areas) and over-emphasize others (high HP pools or non-standard attack patterns.) A lot of design decisions make sense that way but it feels like it could use testing from other sources. Greed Mode is a great example of that where I can understand some of the design decisions if you assume he's got a pretty non-standard view of what is/isn't threatening. (The blood donation machine thing is just straight-up an oversight/bad design tho'.)
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Nov 2, 2015 18:39
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PantsBandit posted:He had a run with the lost last night where he made it to the dark room, then died because a red chest warped him into the devil room. There was one of those little floating demon dudes in there hidden behind the statue, it hit him twice before he could even react. It really seems like it's an oversight that you can enter the devil room from the top, especially when there's a floating demon dude up there. Anyway as much fun as it is to make fun of Edmund's hilariously bad ideas, I've been having a good time with Afterbirth thus far. I also hope that he patches the Crashes The Game! pill out of the rotation, because it crashes my game whenever I take it.
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PantsBandit posted:He had a run with the lost last night where he made it to the dark room, then died because a red chest warped him into the devil room. There was one of those little floating demon dudes in there hidden behind the statue, it hit him twice before he could even react. That happened to me once, but with one of those invisible dudes. Abaddon was right for me to pick up too. Also, I'm not sure what caused, it but I had a Lilith run where some of the babies fused together. In particular, the Rotten baby fused with the Incubus and fired flies at a much faster rate than the normal rotten baby in addition to her own tears. Using the box of friends summoned two more of the unfused babies.
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