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DirtyTalk posted:I didn't play previous Fallouts (I hear from many that I did myself a serious injustice). I also heard that Fallout 3 no longer runs on Windows 8. There was a nuclear war 200 years before the game started. The war was triggered by depleted natural resources and belligerent world powers roughly divided among a fascistic America, and a communistic China. The humans that survived tended to do so by living in "vaults", which are Fallout shelters designed by an evil company called Vault-Tec. Although ostensibly a way to survive the nuclear apocalypse, most of these vaults are actually poorly implemented social experiments. As the world has slowly been able to support human life again, people have emerged from vaults to find mutated surface dwellers (Super Mutants and Ghouls), terrible monsters (giant lizard creatures called Deathclaws, for example), and the remnants of the 'old world'. The first two games takes place on the West coast, and detail a number of factions vying for control. The main two that have shown up in every subsequent game to some degree are the Brotherhood of Steel, who are fanatical techno-fetishists that seek to control the old world technology which caused the nuclear apocalypse. There's also the Enclave, who represent the remnants of the corrupt and evil old world American government. Players typically take on an unnamed protagonist on some sort of quest that slowly reveals a larger conspiracy for control over the wasteland. The later 3D games take place on the East coast in Washington DC, which finds a splinter group of good Brotherhood soldiers fighting against a still evil Enclave. The other 3D game takes place in Nevada, specifically Vegas, and finds an earlier faction called the New California Republic facing off against a despot who fashioned himself into a latter day Caesar, and seeks to unite the wasteland under his tyrannical rule. Overall the games start with the premise that the integrated circuit was never developed, and that America's cultural revolution of the 60s was sqaushed by hardline conservatives. That means that everything has an ironic squeaky clean 50s exterior, and the high technology that exists does so with vacuum tubes and chrome burnishing - sort of like "the world of tomorrow" at the Epcot Center. sector_corrector fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Nov 5, 2015 |
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Ok, I have an actual hardware question for anyone here that would know. This is what I have. OS: Windows 10 home premium 64-bit Mobo: MSI Z97 GPU: GTX 750 Ti 2gb CPU: I7 4790K @ 3.6 Ghz RAM: 16 Gb DDR3 @ 666Mhz I'm looking to upgrade the GFX Card soon, thoughts on replacements? Best bang for buck is what I am really looking for.
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A Curvy Goonette posted:mods that they will make you pay for, mind. Skyrim already tried this though and 100% of the community rejected it.
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Nov 5, 2015 19:24
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:To me it's that so many games exist I don't need open world games to have things like strong stories. I can play different games for that. And the AI isn't really doing any more or less than I want it to do. So it doesn't harm the gameplay to me. Get this... this game is a shooter.
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Nov 5, 2015 19:24
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Hafl posted:Get this... this game is a shooter. Then it is a bad game. I will play it as an RPG and it will be a good game even if that means I was wrong and you were right.
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Nov 5, 2015 19:25
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Magmarashi posted:Ok, I have an actual hardware question for anyone here that would know. This is what I have. Get a 970 or up, depending on budget
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Nov 5, 2015 19:26
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Magmarashi posted:Ok, I have an actual hardware question for anyone here that would know. This is what I have. GTX 970 is still probably the card to get. I have a 750ti too, and I'm curious how it's going to handle FO4.
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Nov 5, 2015 19:27
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Then it is a bad game. I will play it as an RPG and it will be a good game even if that means I was wrong and you were right. Bethesda hired people from Bungie and ID Software to help with the shooting mechanics on Fallout 4. Todd Howard in interviews explained that Fallout 4's focus was on shooting mechanics but stressed that VAT wasn't ignored either, that Fallout 4 is still an RPG.
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I said come in! posted:Skyrim already tried this though and 100% of the community rejected it. The Fallout EULA prevents people from charging for mods as well for what it's wOrth. Bethesda has really backed away from their crazy idea.
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Magmarashi posted:Ok, I have an actual hardware question for anyone here that would know. This is what I have. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202043&cm_re=290-_-14-202-043-_-Product Run MSI afterburner and it'll be a loving hairdryer 
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Scott Forstall posted:Get a 970 or up, depending on budget Bardeh posted:GTX 970 is still probably the card to get Alright, that fits right around in my budget, though more towards the upper limit. Thanks. Is there a manufacturer preference/one to avoid or does it matter anymore?
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Hafl posted:Get this... this game is a shooter. doom is p.good
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crabcakes66 posted:Controversial opinion. Outside of some bad textures, horrible facial animations and some weirdness with shadows. Yeah if you ignore everything that is bad about it, which is most of it, it does look pretty good!
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hemale in pain posted:doom is p.good Fallout 4'll be like Doom 4, but you can talk to the monsters. Amazing.
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I said come in! posted:Skyrim already tried this though and 100% of the community rejected it. and if you'll remember from the press release after the fact, they specifically said they would reevaluate this position and come back to it. it's insanely naive to think that bethesda won't monetize the mods that make their games playable.
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Magmarashi posted:Alright, that fits right around in my budget, though more towards the upper limit. Thanks. Is there a manufacturer preference/one to avoid or does it matter anymore? Biggest tangible difference is how loud the thing is, between manufacturers. I'd google around.
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The Droid posted:Yeah if you ignore everything that is bad about it, which is most of it, it does look pretty good! No not really. Most of it looks good outside of a standard Bethesda weak spots.
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Magmarashi posted:Alright, that fits right around in my budget, though more towards the upper limit. Thanks. Is there a manufacturer preference/one to avoid or does it matter anymore? it comes down to warranty (don't buy anything with less than 2-3 years) and whether you want to pay a little more for something with a better/quieter non-stock cooling setup since the cards probably all roll off the same foxconn assembly line. I buy ASUS because I've never had to RMA anything from ASUS in 15+ years of buying their motherboards and video cards, and their directCU line of cards come with great cooling that's silent out of the box but can be scaled up to hairdryer mode in 4 years if you actually need to overclock it for something. they tend to be a little more expensive though Anime Schoolgirl posted:EVGA has amazing support, but their cooling isn't quite as good unless you get the 397x series. back in the day I had 3 evga cards and all of them failed under warranty and were replaced by a slightly better model in ~a week. great warranty, but I'd rather not need the warranty. ASUS has a reputation for being awful if you actually need support but their quality is such that you're unlikely to ever need it
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Magmarashi posted:Alright, that fits right around in my budget, though more towards the upper limit. Thanks. Is there a manufacturer preference/one to avoid or does it matter anymore? ASUS about the same and often cheaper than MSI (changes by the day), but support is rear end. EVGA has amazing support, but their cooling isn't quite as good unless you get the 397x series.
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The Droid posted:Yeah if you ignore everything that is bad about it, which is most of it, it does look pretty good! Actually most of the game parts look extremely good.
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I'm assuming its been pointed out, but since when has Bethesda been good at faces? Bethesda pudding face and a rickety rear end implementation of Gamebryo is a given at this point. It has been since Morrowind. If you read that big Game Informer article that just came out, Todd Howard says he's proud that it's pretty much the same people working there that have for the last decade and that the team has barely grown since Skyrim. So if you were expecting more than the next Bethesda rear end Bethesda game from Bethesda Game Studios, I dunno what to tell you. Sorry you expected more from a company with a 15 year track record of having the exact same type of issues in otherwise fun and entertaining video games? e: Also that article said they hired a guy who worked on the Destiny gunplay to help make their guns like Destiny guns. So here's hoping it at least feels decent outside of VATS.
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I want to upgrade my 760 gtx but i don't care for shadows that much so maybe i'll hold off until they release the new line of gpus that have supposedly like, ten times the giggahertz
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Magmarashi posted:Alright, that fits right around in my budget, though more towards the upper limit. Thanks. Is there a manufacturer preference/one to avoid or does it matter anymore? You can't go wrong with Asus or MSI. Zotac I would avoid but that's just me.
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Minorkos posted:I want to upgrade my 760 gtx but i don't care for shadows that much so maybe i'll hold off until they release the new line of gpus that have supposedly like, ten times the giggahertz you could always grab another one on the cheap from ebay and do SLI if your motherboard supports it
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A Curvy Goonette posted:and if you'll remember from the press release after the fact, they specifically said they would reevaluate this position and come back to it. it's insanely naive to think that bethesda won't monetize the mods that make their games playable. Paid mods are totally coming and whoever thinks they aren't is naive. With skyrim it was just different because mods that were free before suddenly weren't and that really made the people angry. With FO4 you don't have this established community. People will also totally pay for mods. They already pay to buy lives in games like candy crush. But lmao if I'd be assed to pay ten bucks for something like having the interface fixed, I'll porbably also not be the only one. There will also be mod pirating and people remaking mods which are functionality the same for free out of pure spite. If you thought the minecraft drama and slapfights over silly adf.ly links and paypal donations was delicious then you ain't seen nothing yet. But I think overall, all it will do is hurt the long-term playability of their games. I wish some other company would step up and make open-world RPGs like this but introducing a completly new franchise seems to be like, illegal for some reason these days.
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Police Automaton posted:Paid mods are totally coming and whoever thinks they aren't is naive. With skyrim it was just different because mods that were free before suddenly weren't and that really made the people angry. With FO4 you don't have this established community. Those are dummies with mobile phones though (women and children) the glorious pc master race is above such things
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Police Automaton posted:Paid mods are totally coming and whoever thinks they aren't is naive. With skyrim it was just different because mods that were free before suddenly weren't and that really made the people angry. With FO4 you don't have this established community. 
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FadedReality posted:I'm assuming its been pointed out, but since when has Bethesda been good at faces? Bethesda pudding face and a rickety rear end implementation of Gamebryo is a given at this point. It has been since Morrowind. nobody has ever been good at faces except maybe stylized games like dishonored that don't try for realism at all. see: Uncanny Valley
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Magmarashi posted:Oh man, we've reached this point in the discussion You are by far the worst poster in this thread and your incessant use of that emote is getting out of control. Please do more of the epic condescending wonka meme face it only gets funnier after the millionth time
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Couldn't that be just Bethesda making sure that no one sells mods until they can get the chance to
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FadedReality posted:I'm assuming its been pointed out, but since when has Bethesda been good at faces? Bethesda pudding face and a rickety rear end implementation of Gamebryo is a given at this point. It has been since Morrowind. It has been 'pointed out' a few times and the reply every time has been "stop giving a company that makes a shitload of money with every game they release a free pass for being consistently, massively behind the industry standard"
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Now show the part about the agreement being subject to change at any point.
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Bethesda is still feeling the backlash from paid mods way too strongly to implement paid mods into Fallout 4 anytime soon.
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Minorkos posted:Couldn't that be just Bethesda making sure that no one sells mods until they can get the chance to If Bethesda could make mods 90% of the complaints in this thread wouldn't exist.
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crabcakes66 posted:You can't go wrong with Asus or MSI. Zotac I would avoid but that's just me. I've had a Zotac 970 since last November and it's still running great. Pretty drat quiet, too.
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God loving lord. This game. Preorder cancelled I can't even look at the screenshots without barfing. Like, graphics aren't the end-all-be-all of gaming, but holy poo poo it took me literally 5 seconds in paint to show what the game should look like if Bethesda wasn't 100% incompetent. 
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Minorkos posted:Couldn't that be just Bethesda making sure that no one sells mods until they can get the chance to mods are already just bethesda kicking the costs of game design down the road to their customers
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Saint Freak posted:God loving lord. This game. Preorder cancelled I can't even look at the screenshots without barfing. Like, graphics aren't the end-all-be-all of gaming, but holy poo poo it took me literally 5 seconds in paint to show what the game should look like if Bethesda wasn't 100% incompetent. I hope you're not trying to be ironic.
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I said come in! posted:Skyrim already tried this though and 100% of the community rejected it. it was more like 40% and they complained super hard people did accept the idea of giving people money for their work in an optional system
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