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Do not even ask
Apr 8, 2008


Arcsquad12 posted:

a solid 007 film that actually has more in common with Roger Moore Bond than anything else.

Yikes, I know that's not a condemnation but you couldn't have said anything worse that would've killed my interest in Spectre. The most of the Moore era of Bond films is loving dire.

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CaligulaKangaroo
Jul 26, 2012

MAY YOUR HALLOWEEN BE AS STUPID AS MY LIFE IS

MovieBob posted:

And if we can indeed thank a “filmmaker-driven” approach for a gloomy, neck-breaking Superman, Bro’seiden and (for some reason) Jared Leto, I feel pretty comfortable leaving my chips on whatever you call the approach that says “Hey, how about we ask that weirdo from SUPER to make our Space Raccoon movie!?”

PassTheRemote posted:

:rolleyes: it's the film-makers's fault that Warner Bros is trying to do with DC what Marvel did and is failing. It's not an incompetent studio trying to emulate something and not having patience.

You know, I'm reading that, and it seems like Bob actually defeats his own argument. He complains about "filmmaker-driven" films like Batman v Superman, but praises Marvel for hiring an indie film weirdo to direct the first proper introduction of its major franchise villain. He's complaining about DC letting filmmakers do their own thing, but he's praising Marvel for letting filmmakers do their own thing. It's not even circular logic, it's just refusing to understand how things work.

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



Who wants to start a kickstarter for a GG movie? It's actually a charity that supplies water to african villages by collecting GGer tears.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Zedd posted:

Who wants to start a kickstarter for a GG movie? It's actually a charity that supplies water to african villages by collecting GGer tears.

I'm pretty sure that condemning African villagers to drink Gamergater secretions for the rest of their lives is a good way to get a speedy plane ticket to the Hague.

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



Darth Walrus posted:

I'm pretty sure that condemning African villagers to drink Gamergater secretions for the rest of their lives is a good way to get a speedy plane ticket to the Hague.
Joke's on them, I live close to that anyway..

High Warlord Zog
Dec 12, 2012

CaligulaKangaroo posted:

He's complaining about DC letting filmmakers do their own thing, but he's praising Marvel for letting filmmakers do their own thing.

Does Marvel really let it's directors do their own thing though? You usually get the director's sensibility coming through a bit during the talky parts, but as soon as the punching and shooting and explosions and FX start those movies are absolutely voiceless (which isn't to say that those sequences are bad, they're functional, and usually a lot of fun to watch at the time, but examples of auteur filmmaking they are not).

Robert Denby posted:

As awesome as Drafthouse is, I'm baffled as to why they want to be associated with Devin Faraci, his tantrums, and all the bridges he seems to indiscriminately burn.

Because Devin Faraci is a really good writer (of articles) - and apparently pretty personable offline - even though he can be a colossal poo poo on twitter.

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008

High Warlord Zog posted:

Does Marvel really let it's directors do their own thing though? You usually get the director's sensibility coming through a bit during the talky parts, but as soon as the punching and shooting and explosions and FX start those movies are absolutely voiceless (which isn't to say that those sequences are bad, they're functional, and usually a lot of fun to watch at the time, but examples of auteur filmmaking they are not).

Not 100%, if I recall correctly the reason Wright left Ant Man was because they wanted to incorporate it into the MCU and he was against it.

At this point I just follow Bob's work out of sheer morbid curiosity. It's quite rare to witness a person so fundamentally broken and led by his own childhood memories as he is. And as far comparing him to Dobson, I think he's worse. At least Dobson can actually draw, Bob seems unable/too lazy to fix the glaring green screen issues in his videos.

Tracula posted:

Remember Movie Bob is the one who said that Other M isn't misogynist and that everyone who doesn't like it is racist because they just don't get Japanese culture.

And onto something even stupider. Watch a man get triggered as gently caress because Zoe Quinn is gonna have a movie made about her or something. https://youtu.be/xloz3nYAo_g

Dude reminds me of a hairy, talking onion.

Archer666 fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Nov 7, 2015

Mad Lupine
Feb 18, 2011

all the things you said
running through my head

Tracula posted:

And onto something even stupider. Watch a man get triggered as gently caress because Zoe Quinn is gonna have a movie made about her or something. https://youtu.be/xloz3nYAo_g

I like how he has some sweet anime babes in the background with no sense of irony. He even steals a couple of peeks of the anime babe billboard. Hilarious!

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

Do not even ask posted:

Yikes, I know that's not a condemnation but you couldn't have said anything worse that would've killed my interest in Spectre. The most of the Moore era of Bond films is loving dire.

Look at this scrub, doesn't even realize Moore was Secretly Best Bond.

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

High Warlord Zog posted:

Does Marvel really let it's directors do their own thing though? You usually get the director's sensibility coming through a bit during the talky parts, but as soon as the punching and shooting and explosions and FX start those movies are absolutely voiceless (which isn't to say that those sequences are bad, they're functional, and usually a lot of fun to watch at the time, but examples of auteur filmmaking they are not).

Marvel movies are homogenous and samey because they literally don't do this. Fantastic Four they even went so far as to completely re-edit the movie, or so its director claims, and its director has already made an awesome superhero movie without Marvel's budget and meddling, so I trust his word.

I forgot that FF4 was Fox, so that was a brain fart. But Marvel's action movies have all been very similar ever since the first Iron Man. Kenneth Braunaugh directed Thor 1 and you can hardly tell. That's kind of bonkers.

BottledBodhisvata fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Nov 7, 2015

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Guardians of the Galaxy is pretty heavily influenced by its director. It's also probably the most well-liked movie of the MCU

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono

Augus posted:

Guardians of the Galaxy is pretty heavily influenced by its director. It's also probably the most well-liked movie of the MCU

Hopefully it will lead to more strongly-flavored additions to the franchise. I've heard that GotG was a test to see how far into the MU they could delve--since the characters were all virtual-unknowns, and because it was far more weird and scifi than the other ones.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Iron Man 3 is clearly a Shane Black movie
Captain America is Joe Johnson film

And for all the talk about how bad Marvel is for wanting to add some MCU worldbuilding in Antman, there really isn't that much and also the scenes that seem like they are Wright were actually added by Peyton Reed.

I'm interested in how the MCU continues since Kevin Fiege has more power now and honestly I like the vision he has over the guy who hasn't been photographed since the 80s and didn't want Marvel to sell Black Widow action figures.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

Augus posted:

Guardians of the Galaxy is pretty heavily influenced by its director. It's also probably the most well-liked movie of the MCU

AntMan had a lot of that flair too. It was very much influenced by Wright (since the script was still mostly his) and the director.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

achillesforever6 posted:

I'm interested in how the MCU continues since Kevin Fiege has more power now and honestly I like the vision he has over the guy who hasn't been photographed since the 80s and didn't want Marvel to sell Black Widow action figures.

Ike Perlmutter? I've heard that when he arrived in New York as a youth, he used to hang around outside cemeteries pretending to be a rabbi and charging to officiate funerals.

Do not even ask
Apr 8, 2008


DStecks posted:

Look at this scrub, doesn't even realize Moore was Secretly Best Bond.

Best Bond is Lazenby and I'll internet-fight you to the death on this.

KayTee
May 5, 2012

Whachoodoin?

Do not even ask posted:

Best Bond is Lazenby and I'll internet-fight you to the death on this.

:hfive:

Internet Critic Discussion Thread: Best Bond Discussion Thread.

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

Do not even ask posted:

Best Bond is Lazenby and I'll internet-fight you to the death on this.

Well I haven't even seen OHMSS so I can't, in good conscience, discuss it. Honestly, I'd always thought I'd hate Roger Moore's Bond, since opinion on him soured so hard after his tenure, but then I watched Man with the Golden Gun and it's easily my favourite Bond film. He's just got such an idiosyncratic take on Bond; everybody else is shades of Connery, but Roger Moore plays Bond like he's Patrick loving Bateman.

In any case though, there is apparently a dedicated James Bond franchise thread (not the thread for Spectre), so if we want to discuss this further, we could take it there.

Do not even ask
Apr 8, 2008


DStecks posted:

Well I haven't even seen OHMSS so I can't, in good conscience, discuss it. Honestly, I'd always thought I'd hate Roger Moore's Bond, since opinion on him soured so hard after his tenure, but then I watched Man with the Golden Gun and it's easily my favourite Bond film. He's just got such an idiosyncratic take on Bond; everybody else is shades of Connery, but Roger Moore plays Bond like he's Patrick loving Bateman.

In any case though, there is apparently a dedicated James Bond franchise thread (not the thread for Spectre), so if we want to discuss this further, we could take it there.

MwtGG is my most detested Bond film, so different strokes I guess :shrug:

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Which Roger Moore film was the one with the mountaintop fortress and Julian Glover as the bad guy? For Your Eyes Only?

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

Arcsquad12 posted:

Which Roger Moore film was the one with the mountaintop fortress and Julian Glover as the bad guy? For Your Eyes Only?

You know google exists, right?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Oh I know, I just like asking obvious questions that are easily answered on my own time in a poor attempt to keep the conversation from veering back into another GG derail.

Trojan Kaiju
Feb 13, 2012


Arcsquad12 posted:

Oh I know, I just like asking obvious questions that are easily answered on my own time in a poor attempt to keep the conversation from veering back into another GG derail.

What's Aurini's favorite Bond?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Trojan Kaiju posted:

What's Aurini's favorite Bond?

Command and Conquer.

Cyron
Mar 10, 2014

by zen death robot

achillesforever6 posted:

I'm interested in how the MCU continues since Kevin Fiege has more power now and honestly I like the vision he has over the guy who hasn't been photographed since the 80s and didn't want Marvel to sell Black Widow action figures.

My neice love black widow and it was a pain to find a decent toy for her few years back, the closest was the Disney skylander-like toys but they don't own a gaming system. we found one but it was a 3 pack with the others. so I geuss her little brother can have Caption America.

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

Wheat Loaf posted:

Ike Perlmutter? I've heard that when he arrived in New York as a youth, he used to hang around outside cemeteries pretending to be a rabbi and charging to officiate funerals.

He seems like my kind of guy

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!

achillesforever6 posted:

I'm interested in how the MCU continues since Kevin Fiege has more power now and honestly I like the vision he has over the guy who hasn't been photographed since the 80s and didn't want Marvel to sell Black Widow action figures.

I will never understand why anyone wouldn't view a BW action figure as a license to print money post-Avengers. Maybe someone homeless and terrified of money would avoid it but Ike's a billionaire so....

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

DeusExMachinima posted:

I will never understand why anyone wouldn't view a BW action figure as a license to print money post-Avengers. Maybe someone homeless and terrified of money would avoid it but Ike's a billionaire so....

I've always heard it as / "BOys don't like toys of girls and if girls buy boy stuff, they arent buying girl toys."

egg tats
Apr 3, 2010

DeusExMachinima posted:

I will never understand why anyone wouldn't view a BW action figure as a license to print money post-Avengers. Maybe someone homeless and terrified of money would avoid it but Ike's a billionaire so....

Apparently a lot of children's media is so devoted to the idea of only selling anything to their pet target demographic that they'll actively can anything that gets popular with the wrong crowd.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

DeusExMachinima posted:

I will never understand why anyone wouldn't view a BW action figure as a license to print money post-Avengers. Maybe someone homeless and terrified of money would avoid it but Ike's a billionaire so....

Business executives and research analysts are terrified of female solo leads (lots of stories from directors and script writers that they can only get projects approved if they change their lead into a male), Lucy flopping doesn't help Scarlet's cause.

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames

Do not even ask posted:

Yikes, I know that's not a condemnation but you couldn't have said anything worse that would've killed my interest in Spectre. The most of the Moore era of Bond films is loving dire.

It's actually pretty good to be honest. I'd say it kind of transitions from the very serious tone of Skyfall partway through and moves into a more fun latter era Connery I think? style near the end.

PassTheRemote
Mar 15, 2007

Number 6 holds The Village record in Duck Hunt.

The first one to kill :laugh: wins.

DStecks posted:

Well I haven't even seen OHMSS so I can't, in good conscience, discuss it. Honestly, I'd always thought I'd hate Roger Moore's Bond, since opinion on him soured so hard after his tenure, but then I watched Man with the Golden Gun and it's easily my favourite Bond film. He's just got such an idiosyncratic take on Bond; everybody else is shades of Connery, but Roger Moore plays Bond like he's Patrick loving Bateman.

In any case though, there is apparently a dedicated James Bond franchise thread (not the thread for Spectre), so if we want to discuss this further, we could take it there.


Moore's era is somewhat uneven, Man with the Golden Gun is a good Bond movie (helped by Christopher Lee being awesome), and Bond in that one is very cold (Moore's Bond does not always act in that manner). I feel the reason his tenure has soured is that he stayed on way too long, and movies like View to a Kill show that Moore got far too old to play Bond at that point. He had a number of movies that are legit great, but also a number of stinkers.

I don't agree that everyone else is playing Connery in their Bond, each Bond brings something different to the table, which I feel is the key to this series continued success over the years.

Connery is very suave, but very different from the Janes Bond of the novels (who is very cold and bitter).
Lazenby plays the character closer to the novel, and OHMSS is a Bond movie I cannot recommend enough. Also, Lazenby plays the Bond character with a little bit of a vulnerable side, and a love-hate relationship with his job.
Dalton plays a much rougher and harder Bond than any before him, with the frustration that Lazenby's Bond had with MI6. Hell, Daniel Craig is playing closer to Dalton's Bond than any other.

At the end of the day, I've always found at least one thing from each Bond movie I've liked, even if I disliked that movie as a whole.

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

PassTheRemote posted:

Connery is very suave, but very different from the Janes Bond of the novels (who is very cold and bitter).
Lazenby plays the character closer to the novel, and OHMSS is a Bond movie I cannot recommend enough. Also, Lazenby plays the Bond character with a little bit of a vulnerable side, and a love-hate relationship with his job.
Dalton plays a much rougher and harder Bond than any before him, with the frustration that Lazenby's Bond had with MI6. Hell, Daniel Craig is playing closer to Dalton's Bond than any other.

At the end of the day, I've always found at least one thing from each Bond movie I've liked, even if I disliked that movie as a whole.

I've never seen OHMSS or either of Dalton's films, but of the 4 Bonds I've seen, this is how I'd summarize them personally, just from my exposure:

Connery's Bond is a thug in a tailored suit, which is the one aspect of his performance that no other Bond truly followed. His refinement is entirely put on, and he has a uniquely roguish charm. He's pretty grounded, all things considered, even when his scripts start to go over the top.
Moore's Bond is alternatingly either the perfect English gentleman and paragon of masculinity, or a sociopath masquerading as such. Moore in the latter mode is my personal favourite take on the character, since instead of negating the inherent moral problems of the character, it cranks them to eleven.
Brosnan's Bond is alright at splitting the difference between campy fun Bond and serious action Bond but is never comfortable in either role. In action, he's awkward, and in camp, he comes off as a creepy weirdo completely led about by his penis. Also, obviously, the victim of bad scripts. I'm just gonna put this out there: Goldeneye isn't that great. it's the least dumb Brosnan film, but it's not spectacular.
Craig's Bond is the most radical departure from the mainstream Bonds in that he's a character with an arc, and a notion that at heart he's fundamentally a decent person. He's a Bond with a heart of gold even if the whole point of Casino Royale was that Bond loses his heart of gold and that doing so is instrumental to him becoming the 007 we know but just ignore that, and that's why even though his films are loving excellent, he'll never be my favourite take on the character. The Craig films have never satisfactorily explained why that character would be an assassin in the first place, and Spectre pretty much tells you to go gently caress yourself if you want a real explanation. it just feels like predictable and audience-insulting writing that Bond needs to be a good guy at heart, like we won't enjoy the movie if we think Bond isn't a ~real hero~.

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008

DeusExMachinima posted:

I will never understand why anyone wouldn't view a BW action figure as a license to print money post-Avengers. Maybe someone homeless and terrified of money would avoid it but Ike's a billionaire so....

Well, you could always buy your kid the Hot Toys figure of the boringest character, I guess.



Nothing says love like a $200 kids toy!

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

Archer666 posted:

Well, you could always buy your kid the Hot Toys figure of the boringest character, I guess.



Nothing says love like a $200 kids toy!

That's some serious uncanny valley poo poo there :gonk:

Gertrude Perkins
May 1, 2010

Gun Snake

dont talk to gun snake

Drops: human teeth
So I just finished watching the first season of Manhattan, the WGN America drama series set during the Manhattan Project. I liked it a lot, and it definitely made me wonder if Infamous Sphere had seen it - it definitely falls into "period drama" and "queer themes", and might provide a nice comparison to Bomb Girls maybe?

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Tracula posted:

That's some serious uncanny valley poo poo there :gonk:

You'd have that face knowing that someone, somewhere, is going to buy that figurine and.... "hot glue" it

Also I did check out the more recent NC and while I would say its a clever way of Doug to bypass youtube's content ID system it seems more like he's still trying to do his amateur acting comedian shtick

JB50
Feb 13, 2008

Archer666 posted:

Well, you could always buy your kid the Hot Toys figure of the boringest character, I guess.



Nothing says love like a $200 kids toy!

Thats not Hawkeye.

Mad Lupine
Feb 18, 2011

all the things you said
running through my head

Leal posted:

You'd have that face knowing that someone, somewhere, is going to buy that figurine and.... "hot glue" it


Not sure why you brought that up seeing as how the figure is actually pretty tame all things considered. The outfit looks like it's made out of tough, practical materials and made to move around in as opposed to the skin tight latex outfits black widow has had in the comics.

Btw, if you don't know what 'hot glue' is, please please please please please please please please please don't look it up.

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Infamous Sphere
Nov 8, 2010
Blargh oh my god yes, I have read fanfiction, in a way it's a guilty pleasure/so bad it's good thing. I can't read trashy romance though. Fanfiction..oh god..some of the anatomical limitations are..well..let's just say these women don't very much und

Gertrude Perkins posted:

So I just finished watching the first season of Manhattan, the WGN America drama series set during the Manhattan Project. I liked it a lot, and it definitely made me wonder if Infamous Sphere had seen it - it definitely falls into "period drama" and "queer themes", and might provide a nice comparison to Bomb Girls maybe?

I haven't seen it! But I'll keep an eye out. It hasn't made its way over to Australian TV/Netflix as far as I know.
I am *so behind* as a reviewer. Blame having an exhibition for that...

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