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Xylorjax
Nov 27, 2002

The Locker Room: wherein getting old sucks

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Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Alctel posted:

So I was playing outside at the start of June, running onto the ball and got blindsided by a dump truck disguised as a tiny 5' girl

With this result



leading to this




No breaks, but I apparently BADLY sprained both sets of ligaments on either side of my foot AND pulled the Achilles. I have no idea how the gently caress I managed to do all three of them but it sucked.

Playing again for the first time this week, gonna take it super easy. I'm 33 and getting old sucks :(

Ouch dude, that looks pretty unpleasant. Would have thought it would have been a longer spell on the sidelines than it was.

Speaking of the Achilles our goalkeeper just did his an hour or so ago. Looked like a really bad tear and I would be very surprised if he came back to play at all.

Suprfli6
Jul 9, 2008

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:

Xylorjax posted:

The Locker Room: wherein getting old sucks

Yep. Had my second game last night, and since we split into two teams it was a 6v6 game where we had 1 sub and almost everyone is either out of shape, inexperienced at the game, or both. And we played a younger team that has obviously played together for a long time, resulting in a ton of breakaways and 3-on-1s with me flailing around in goal. I got kicked on the inside of my right foot and also banged up my left knee pretty badly, and I'm sure 10 years ago I would've woken up this morning and felt good as new but alas that is no longer the case. Hopefully I stop limping in the next day or two so I can do some jogging and practice before the next game. Needing almost a week to recover from a game could be problematic.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Alctel posted:

So I was playing outside at the start of June, running onto the ball and got blindsided by a dump truck disguised as a tiny 5' girl

With this result



leading to this




No breaks, but I apparently BADLY sprained both sets of ligaments on either side of my foot AND pulled the Achilles. I have no idea how the gently caress I managed to do all three of them but it sucked.

Playing again for the first time this week, gonna take it super easy. I'm 33 and getting old sucks :(

Oh! I've had that before! Cept in the Army!

Compress with Ace bandage and poo poo. Naturally stay off it. Be careful though, mine healed weird so when I'm laying down on my stomach and I curl my toes it makes a cracking feeling and one of the ligaments goes over the top of three others, and it feels weird as hell.

Hope you feel better though.

ephex
Nov 4, 2007





PHWOAR CRIMINAL

Alctel posted:

So I was playing outside at the start of June, running onto the ball and got blindsided by a dump truck disguised as a tiny 5' girl

With this result



leading to this




No breaks, but I apparently BADLY sprained both sets of ligaments on either side of my foot AND pulled the Achilles. I have no idea how the gently caress I managed to do all three of them but it sucked.

Playing again for the first time this week, gonna take it super easy. I'm 33 and getting old sucks :(

Don't. Play. CoEd.

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

ephex posted:

Don't. Play. CoEd.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Europeans: literally too soft to play soccer with women ;)

Though the US soccer federation just banned heading for kids under 10 so yeah.

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

I'm not European!

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

pangstrom posted:

the US soccer federation just banned heading for kids under 10 so yeah.
:negative:

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
That's sabotaged their youth system imo. If you don't learn stuff like that as a kid you're at a massive disadvantage.

Brain damage be damned.

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer
Bullshit, I didn't play soccer (mostly basketball) growing up and I scored a header last week :colbert:

I also took a crack at keeper this week, we won 14-4, but I let one soft goal in and a line drive went right through my hands. I have a lot more appreciation for the ability to lay out for a save now.

That said, I put a sumptuous pass over the back of their defense to our sprinting striker (who thankfully converted) on one counter that made the whole thing worth while.

Tongues
Aug 28, 2009

But I think those are eyes...
(source)

Bogan Krkic posted:

I'm not European!

Shhhh Steve, have an espresso, be careful not to get any on your skinny tie

The Big Taff Man
Nov 22, 2005


Official Manchester United Posting Partner 2015/16
Fan of Britches

TheBigAristotle posted:

Bullshit, I didn't play soccer (mostly basketball) growing up and I scored a header last week :colbert:

I also took a crack at keeper this week, we won 14-4, but I let one soft goal in and a line drive went right through my hands. I have a lot more appreciation for the ability to lay out for a save now.

That said, I put a sumptuous pass over the back of their defense to our sprinting striker (who thankfully converted) on one counter that made the whole thing worth while.

From reading your posts I would have thought you were scoring headers on an hourly basis as a child

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer
That wasn't very nice

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

pangstrom posted:

Europeans: literally too soft to play soccer with women ;)

Though the US soccer federation just banned heading for kids under 10 so yeah.

Lol what? How stupid this is.

cosmicjim
Mar 23, 2010
VISIT THE STICKIED GOON HOLIDAY CHARITY DRIVE THREAD IN GBS.

Goons are changing the way children get an education in Haiti.

Edit - Oops, no they aren't. They donated to doobie instead.
Don't think the U.S. has to worry about losing international games because of poor headers. It will be from not being good at soccer.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

That's irrelevant.

Geno
Apr 26, 2004
STUPID
DICK

cosmicjim posted:

Don't think the U.S. has to worry about losing international games because of poor headers. It will be from not being good at soccer.

jonathan brooks tho

cosmicjim
Mar 23, 2010
VISIT THE STICKIED GOON HOLIDAY CHARITY DRIVE THREAD IN GBS.

Goons are changing the way children get an education in Haiti.

Edit - Oops, no they aren't. They donated to doobie instead.

Geno posted:

jonathan brooks tho

Thank god he learned to play soccer in Germany?

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
Lost a contact while playing pickup today. Can't wait to laser my eyeballs so I don't have to put up with this garbage ever again.

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

cosmicjim posted:

Don't think the U.S. has to worry about losing international games because of poor headers. It will be from not being good at soccer.

Heading a ball is a pretty important part of being good at soccer though, especially for strikers and center backs?

cosmicjim
Mar 23, 2010
VISIT THE STICKIED GOON HOLIDAY CHARITY DRIVE THREAD IN GBS.

Goons are changing the way children get an education in Haiti.

Edit - Oops, no they aren't. They donated to doobie instead.
I also think it's a skill I think you can learn to be effective at starting at age 10 or 11 and success will be determined by natural coordination and if everyone is under the same constraint it really does only matter for international play.

Simone Poodoin
Jun 26, 2003

Che storia figata, ragazzo!



Having your dad teach you how to head the ball when you're like 5 years old and hating it because it hurts and you wanna go play with lego is an important rite of passage that upcoming generations of american kids will miss out. Sad.

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

cosmicjim posted:

I also think it's a skill I think you can learn to be effective at starting at age 10 or 11 and success will be determined by natural coordination and if everyone is under the same constraint it really does only matter for international play.

All American players will be 5 years behind on their development at that skill and as such will lag behind for most of their careers

cosmicjim
Mar 23, 2010
VISIT THE STICKIED GOON HOLIDAY CHARITY DRIVE THREAD IN GBS.

Goons are changing the way children get an education in Haiti.

Edit - Oops, no they aren't. They donated to doobie instead.
I wish my entire team had been prevented from learning to head the ball. Maybe they would chest trap our goal kicks instead of flicking every single one to the other team's defense.

mushi
Oct 13, 2003
I am addicted to video games.
I love the posts about concussions because you can never tell if people are trolling or legitimately think brain damage isn't worth addressing for the 99.999% of people who play youth sports and will never get paid a dime to play anything related to sports except for the 1 in 10 draft kings daily fantasy leagues they win

also if it's anything like "throwing curveballs" let me tell you the players destined for competitive play will throw that poo poo regardless of whatever the rules or "science" or that Tommy John fella says. lol if you think the good 9 year olds won't learn how to dunk headers on the lovely 8 year old goalkeepers anyway. gently caress I watched a youth indoor soccer game the other day and some of those fuckers were throwing dirty elbows off the ball, and I'm guessing they didn't just come up with those moves on their own.

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
Nice meltdown.

If they go ahead with this they are putting their footballers at a disadvantage from an early age unless every other country follows suit. It's definitely a good thing for those kids' brains, though.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
The alternative is probably to have a lot of parents not put their kids in soccer. Americans are PRETTY CONSERVATIVE with their kids' safety, and in their defense brain damage isn't like a turf burn or something.

This is a way better approach than the head-in-the-sand NFL one, at least, though obviously that's a low bar and the problem in soccer is never going to be at that level.

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

I don't really care either way if it makes America worse at soccer or makes their kids smarter or whatever the gently caress, I just think kids should be allowed to bash their heads on things if they want

Tongues
Aug 28, 2009

But I think those are eyes...
(source)
It's not going to achieve anything except make all those under 11s matches in a few be even more hilarious to watch as a generation of young players discovers a new body part they have absolutely no idea how to use. Assuming that the parents aren't just chucking medicine balls at their children's faces from infancy, the difference in preventing concussion is going to be negligible. How many kids have you seen get a concussion from heading a soccer ball in a game? And I say this as one of the many people here I'm sure who've been concussed during a match.

If anything, the biggest danger is kids running around in general smacking into each other in general because kids are and always have been compete spackers. I don't know if American children are less retarded than Australian kids.

Your brain develops roughly until you are about 25 give or take, the reason a lot of footballers seem dumb is because like the rest of us, they actually might not be that good at things outside of what they've dedicated their lives to at the expense of everything else. Except Pique who is obviously a genius.

Insanely Sikh
Aug 26, 2009

Winner, SA's Sikh Of the Year, 2013

Messyass posted:

I actually haven't missed a single match this season... unlike most of the good players on my team, who just keep getting injured. When I'm one of the guys who has to carry the team it's bad, bad news.

Same, touch wood I don't now get injured but my regulars are dropping like flies.

Scikar
Nov 20, 2005

5? Seriously?

Tongues posted:

Assuming that the parents aren't just chucking medicine balls at their children's faces from infancy, the difference in preventing concussion is going to be negligible. How many kids have you seen get a concussion from heading a soccer ball in a game? And I say this as one of the many people here I'm sure who've been concussed during a match.

From the article, this isn't something that happens when you head the ball during a game, it's something that develops over time when you head back goal kicks every day in training and never get a break from it. Which means the way to protect kids is to limit how often they are practising headers and playing games with full goal kicks, not to ban it altogether.

mushi
Oct 13, 2003
I am addicted to video games.
I honestly don't think the rule will make a bit of a difference either way, but I do know it will result in an overzealous youth ref calling a pen on a 9 year old that gets hit in the face with a shot in the box. NO HEADERS!

I just hope it gets caught on film and posted to the internet when it happens.

Suprfli6
Jul 9, 2008

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:

Welp, pretty sure I ruptured my Achilles tonight. Was backpedaling and tried to change direction, felt a pop in my left ankle just above my heel like a rubber band snapping and it felt like it curled up into my calf. Massive bruise now and if I try to flex my ankle at all in any direction it's a shooting pain all the way up my calf. Hopefully I can get an MRI scheduled tomorrow, this loving sucks.

Edit- Saw a specialist this morning, he confirmed its a full tear. Surgery early next week. Soccer kills yo.

Suprfli6 fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Nov 24, 2015

Nucken Futz
Oct 30, 2010

by Reene
Something happened to me about a month ago that I haven't experienced in something like 30 yrs or so.

Seconds left in our game, defending a free kick on our 25 yd line, that I might have had something to do with.
The free kick, once given came with a touch of aggro and a few purses being swung. I think that maybe it coulda kinda sorta was directed towards moi.

Anyways.

We line up on the 18 yd line, the ball gets hoofed way over my head.
As the ball went shooting past us this loving mutt that I was marking me smashed me in the mouth with his fist.
Sucker Punched.
Dropped me to the ground - I'm 6'2" 190 lbs.
Blood everywhere.

By the time I had picked myself up, and begun to direct my rage the cocksucker was gone.
hosed off the field ASAP, straight to his car and away he went.

I'm 58 yrs old FFS.
My teeth were wobbly for a day.



It's a long season.
I'll get him.

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer
God drat, what a dick. Are you gonna do anything through your league or just go full Roy Keane on his leg?

Nucken Futz
Oct 30, 2010

by Reene
The League won't do gently caress all, the "Ref" didn't see it, only the afters. That's OK, I think I can look after my own problems.
I haven't lasted this long without learning a thing or three.

I am not one to advocate premeditated violence, but I can also see the future.
The gentleman in question will have blood coming from his head some Sunday morning.
I think that's only fair.

Tongues
Aug 28, 2009

But I think those are eyes...
(source)

Nucken Futz posted:

The League won't do gently caress all, the "Ref" didn't see it, only the afters. That's OK, I think I can look after my own problems.
I haven't lasted this long without learning a thing or three.

I am not one to advocate premeditated violence, but I can also see the future.
The gentleman in question will have blood coming from his head some Sunday morning.
I think that's only fair.

I had a similar incident a couple years ago where the officials gave us both a yellow card and that was the end of it as far as the league was concerned. Ended up making a police report on a third party who kicked me in the back while I was on the ground.

Turned out the kicker was a member of our fine law keeping service here, and nothing was done :itisamystery:

Shook hands with the original guy from the fight after the match though, I think he'd been a few blues in his time

Alctel
Jan 16, 2004

I love snails


At least in the leagues I've played in here, a sucker punch like that would be at least a ban for the rest of the season and a hefty fine for the team

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Nucken Futz
Oct 30, 2010

by Reene

Alctel posted:

At least in the leagues I've played in here, a sucker punch like that would be at least a ban for the rest of the season and a hefty fine for the team

Oh, I agree. Maybe not a team fine but the offender gets smacked down.

however I now play in an over 55 league where "it's motto is - For Fun and Fitness". TBF when I checked on the website just now I see their is an incident report that can be filed.
By my age most of the psychotics and crazy violent players have been weeded out/died/incarcerated so it's not like it's a problem like open ball can be.

gently caress it, I'm still gonna clatter the fucker.
I'm not a big fan of paperwork

BTW I'm the luckiest fucker alive. I've been playing non-stop Winter / summer league for 35+ yrs now. Well, except for the various injuries that I've had over the years. Everything but the knees. The knees have worked great.
Even playing over 55's, there's like 18 teams. Get to play against a few ex-internationals that immigrated, NASL dudes, it's still decent ball.
And Hahahahahaha, there's 8 over 60's teams in the area so I'm gonna play 'till I drop dead, hopefully somewhere in the centre circle.

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