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Walked posted:Currently in an MCSA course that work is paying for. Full of "senior" engineers. "So... wait... you're saying 1 + 1 = 10. How can that be? How is 2 equal to 10?" Actually quote from someone who just memorized net masks. Binary masking broke his brain. (he finally got it, but drat it took a long time) Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Nov 11, 2015 |
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How the hell do you guys get all this paid training? 
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Nov 11, 2015 16:53
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I haven't had a phone at work in 2 years. And for the 3 years before that, I had one but never needed to use it. Not having a work phone rules.
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Nov 11, 2015 16:53
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flosofl posted:"So... wait... you're saying 1 + 1 = 10. How can that be? How is 2 equal to 10?" You see, there's this magic world of counting that isn't like what you're used to! You can only count to 1 over and over!
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Nov 11, 2015 16:54
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I need to get my own office. Testing guy keeps coming by and watches me code over my shoulder. He's a super nice guy, and he want's to learn how to code, but it breaks my concentration and he isn't actually going to learn anything from watching me deal with super obscured low level C code. GO THE gently caress AWAY. 
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Nov 11, 2015 16:57
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Tab8715 posted:How the hell do you guys get all this paid training? I basically get one class per year; I try to take advantage of it each and every year so it doesnt go to waste. Most jobs I've had have had this as an annual benefit; some require you to stick around for a year or repay it, others not as much.
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Moey posted:I guess I am the only one who doesn't pick up my phone for unknown numbers?
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Nov 11, 2015 17:09
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Walked posted:Currently in an MCSA course that work is paying for. Full of "senior" engineers. I took the RHSCA Test last year, however they switched it from RH6 to RH7 right after I signed up for it. The exam requires you to setup a RHEL VM, but the first problem is that you don't have the root password. In RHEL, there's a technique you can reboot the server into "single user mode" (sort of no networking safe mode) and reset the root password, but on RHEL7 it requires an entirely different processes. So if you came to the test knowing RHEL6, but not RHEL7, you can't even start the exam. Like one gentleman than came in, sat down for a few minutes, realized he couldn't do it and got up and left.
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Nov 11, 2015 17:10
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Spazz posted:edit: how much should I charge per hour? See, there's a number right there in your post. Add the appropriate currency symbol and you're laughing.
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Nov 11, 2015 17:41
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flosofl posted:"So... wait... you're saying 1 + 1 = 10. How can that be? How is 2 equal to 10?" Holy poo poo. Now we can't seem to understand how the default gateway and the subnet/network id are different things.  Edit: and I get it - we don't all know the same things. But we're 3 days in and still on this poo poo. And it's a holiday so I'm spending my own, personal time on this. Walked fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Nov 11, 2015 |
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Nov 11, 2015 18:25
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devmd01 posted:poo poo that's pissing me off lately: aggressive sales guys "Hi! This is melissa from citrix!" We don't use any citrix products. "That's fine! I want to talk to you about what you're doing with your cloud-based*click*" Collateral Damage posted:We have a new receptionist who hasn't yet been properly trained to yank the chain of telemarketers until they give up, so I've had two cold calls forwarded to me this week. Our receptionists only cold transfer calls.
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Nov 11, 2015 18:46
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Walked posted:Now we can't seem to understand how the default gateway and the subnet/network id are different things. 
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Nov 11, 2015 18:59
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Wacky Wednesday strikes again, complete with MS update that Seriously Breaks poo poo. KB3097877 Apparently fixed some vulnerability regarding embedded fonts and is causing Outlook/Publisher/Other poo poo to just straight up crash, and is even resulting in some machines failing to log on at all. Uninstalling the update fixes the issue. No word from MS yet but my ticket queue is a mess. 
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Nov 11, 2015 19:19
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xov posted:Wacky Wednesday strikes again, complete with MS update that Seriously Breaks poo poo. Only saving grace of my job: Company is closed today.
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Nov 11, 2015 20:06
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Tigntink posted:Only saving grace of my job: Company is closed today. I think that KB only applies to Windows 8.1 so if you dont have a ton of those in your environment it's your lucky day!
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Nov 11, 2015 20:07
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xov posted:KB3097877 Not limited to 8.1, it very much breaks things on Windows 7.
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Nov 11, 2015 20:15
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BaseballPCHiker posted:I think that KB only applies to Windows 8.1 so if you dont have a ton of those in your environment it's your lucky day! Down below it says it includes Server 2012, Server 2012 R2, and WIndows 7 like Mainaman had to deal with.
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Nov 11, 2015 20:17
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Lightning Jim posted:Down below it says it includes Server 2012, Server 2012 R2, and WIndows 7 like Mainaman had to deal with. poo poo. Welp better double check wsus to make sure those dont get applied just yet.
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Nov 11, 2015 20:29
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Bob Morales posted:gently caress em all. Yeah gently caress this. I got 4 emails in two weeks from some rear end in a top hat trying to sell me on some no-name automated build system. I finally broke down and told him to gently caress off instead of just ignoring him after he had his third email be "one last attempt to get in touch with you" and fourth one was "just trying again". I bet anyone he goes on a date with really loves getting the stalker treatment when they stop replying to his calls. Bonus: He was trying to sell me on a build system, despite me not being a build engineer for my current company, based on my linked in saying I was previously a build engineer at another company. So he was both irritating and inept 
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Nov 11, 2015 20:35
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Jumped into WSUS and declined that one. Looking at the status report none of them were applied yet.
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Nov 11, 2015 20:37
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Hi Stripe, just following up on... No you aren't, because I didn't reply to your email. Go away, sales.
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Nov 11, 2015 20:40
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Goddamnit, and here I thought auto-approving security updates was the best thing ever.
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Nov 11, 2015 20:47
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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:I took the RHSCA Test last year, however they switched it from RH6 to RH7 right after I signed up for it. The exam requires you to setup a RHEL VM, but the first problem is that you don't have the root password. In RHEL, there's a technique you can reboot the server into "single user mode" (sort of no networking safe mode) and reset the root password, but on RHEL7 it requires an entirely different processes. You can't bin/bash rhel7?
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Nov 11, 2015 20:53
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Can we talk about account security? I just changed my password for my google account which led to a frighting cascade of failures. I have two factor authentication setup on my account and I use google voice for my number. -Change google account password, receive text on phone -> everything good. -Hangouts app now signs out due to new password, put new password into hangouts -> sends text to my google voice number. -Google voice is signed out due to new password, put in new password into google voice -> sends text to google voice number which then sends it to hangouts. Can't get into hangouts yet as I can't get to the text code for two factor authentication. -Try to sign into my google account on my computer -> sends text to google voice which forwards to google hangouts which I can't get to. Thank god I had another number saved to my google account to send a text to. But If I hadn't then I dunno wtf I would have done in that case.
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Nov 11, 2015 20:54
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jaegerx posted:You can't bin/bash rhel7? That's how you do it, but "single" still worked on RHEL6.
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pofcorn posted:Goddamnit, and here I thought auto-approving security updates was the best thing ever. Dear lord. I didn't think this was actually the case. The other windows admins and I were just having a discussion, spawned from finding out the KB caused issues, about our experiences talking with other support personnel at microsoft and symantec, whenever we open a case with these guys they are always super surprised we have a completely separate QA/DV environment and that we actually rigorously test patches, upgrades etc before even putting them into our production environment, and even when we DO move to production we start with a slow rollout (generally) ofl ike 10 machines, then 30, then 50, then 100 more etc etc. I also found a shitload of forums posts etc after googling the KB stating that people had released the patch to their company and now people couldn't work etc etc. I just don't see why people auto-approve patches or upgrades or whatever to EVERYONE immediately. gently caress, at least create a separate group of machines that contain user's that are slightly less idiotic than the rest, push patches to them, wait a week, did they report any problems that could be traced to a patch? No? Ok, release them to everyone else. Yes? Google and uninstall patches till you figure out which one is the problem. *EDIT* Also, I'm unsure if you're being sarcastic or not pofcorn, my post wasn't specifically directed at you.
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MF_James posted:Also, I'm unsure if you're being sarcastic or not pofcorn, my post wasn't specifically directed at you. This is a painful lesson you only need to learn once. I just set everything to be 3 days behind, gives me time to read up on KBs and push them out to a few test machines before they go company wide.
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Nov 11, 2015 21:06
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Yeah, I did auto-approve security updates (but only security). I just changed the rule to approve them to my test group.
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Nov 11, 2015 21:31
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jaegerx posted:You can't bin/bash rhel7? This is the procedure but you also need to do an SELinux relabel for it to take effect if I recall.
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Nov 11, 2015 22:46
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theperminator posted:This is the procedure but you also need to do an SELinux relabel for it to take effect if I recall. This is correct. There's a few more steps, and "single" doesn't work in RHEL7. The pisser was the class, when paid for and scheduled was for RHEL6, but in the month between scheduling and the actual date, it changed to RHEL7. A lot of people were unhappy, since there was no warning at all.
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Nov 11, 2015 22:48
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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:Star Wars latest Blu-ray releases came with bonus discs of the original theatrical cuts in this format, It's awful. So if I get the Blu-ray disk I can get the original version of the movie without Greedo firing first or any other CGI crap AND the scenes with Biggs on Tatooine?
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Nov 11, 2015 22:58
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Agrikk posted:So if I get the Blu-ray disk I can get the original version of the movie without Greedo firing first or any other CGI crap AND the scenes with Biggs on Tatooine? Sorry, not blu-ray, but DVDs: http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-IV-...in%3A2650304011 It comes with the 1977 theatrical cut in a crappy format.
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Nov 11, 2015 23:05
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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:This is correct. There's a few more steps, and "single" doesn't work in RHEL7. The pisser was the class, when paid for and scheduled was for RHEL6, but in the month between scheduling and the actual date, it changed to RHEL7. A lot of people were unhappy, since there was no warning at all. Hope they issued refunds on the grounds that people were not getting what they paid for.
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RFC2324 posted:Hope they issued refunds on the grounds that people were not getting what they paid for.
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As far as those cold-call salesmen, I just don't answer the phone. But someone in my department answers his, and he lets them do their spiel then basically says this: "That sounds like it might be kind of interesting, but you were breaking up a little there. Can you repeat that?" They repeat, he says it again. Over and over and over. I heard him say it to someone about eight times the other day before they finally hung up. Receptionist forwards most of these to our "Vendor voicemail" line, where the messages never get checked. I just have to go in there every few months and delete them all when the mailbox fills up.
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MrMojok posted:As far as those cold-call salesmen, I just don't answer the phone. But someone in my department answers his, and he lets them do their spiel then basically says this: "That sounds like it might be kind of interesting, but you were breaking up a little there. Can you repeat that?" i want to meet that man and shake him by the hand for his good work
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Nov 12, 2015 03:06
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Come on, guys, they're just regular people trying to put food on the table. They probably hate their jobs just as much you hate them but if it's that or unemployment, can you blame them?
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Nov 12, 2015 04:25
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totalnewbie posted:Come on, guys, they're just regular people trying to put food on the table. They probably hate their jobs just as much you hate them but if it's that or unemployment, can you blame them? Doesn't mean you should have to waste your time to entertain them.
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Nov 12, 2015 04:34
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xov posted:Wacky Wednesday strikes again, complete with MS update that Seriously Breaks poo poo. Thanks for the heads up, I just blacklisted it in SCCM. It would've only hit Pilot Group 1, but still.
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totalnewbie posted:Come on, guys, they're just regular people trying to put food on the table. They probably hate their jobs just as much you hate them but if it's that or unemployment, can you blame them? The same argument could be applied for the people who call me to let me know that the IRS is suing me, and that if I give them my credit card number I can just pay the balance now to make it go away.
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