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evol262 posted:It's odd, because there was a turnover period, and this shouldn't have happened at an official training. Even if unofficial, you could still take the RHCE6 and just roll with it. Much more than just changing the root password changed This was an official RHEL training. We scheduled it about six months before the class, which was in Dec 2014.
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While talking to coworkers in another IT group this morning, I saw of them filling in a bunch of information on a HR website. The site is hosted by an outside company and is theoretically used to fix communication problems between employees, management and HR. In practice, it deployed broken initially, and as far as we knew, the site was more or less written off, since our manager hasn't said anything about it. Anyway, coworker is filling out a thing stating what training he had, if it matched the agreed on goals from earlier in the year, and so on. I log into the site and go my profile, there is nothing in there, and none of the buttons to add anything or edit are enabled, since all of that has to be setup by my boss. He has done nothing on there. That coworker's manager walks by and says that all the managers had been told to use the site and get things configured in there. I'd be curious if this would bite us in the rear end, but I figure no matter what happens, we are all getting "Meets Expectations" no matter what. But it would be nice to see him take a minor bit of interest in being a manager.
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Nov 12, 2015 07:25
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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:This was an official RHEL training. We scheduled it about six months before the class, which was in Dec 2014. RHEL7 moved from sysvinit to systemd, right? Whatever your personal feelings about systemd, that would be a helluva reprogramming of over a decade of muscle memory performing even the most basic tasks to spring on someone. I'd definitely want a refund unless I already knew and could work with RHEL7.
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Nov 12, 2015 07:56
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Wait, you can't boot into runlevel 1 to reset the root password any more? My Linux knowledge is rusting away. 
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Nov 12, 2015 11:48
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Bob's Desk Position Postulate: If someone is given a desk that they can move, they will wish to move it to the dumbest position possible as far away as possible from the power outlet/network jack We just re-modeled our loving retail showroom and office and instead of following the layout that the office furniture people created, this woman wants her desk in the middle of the room and has threatened us with 'moving her desk herself and buying her own cords'. Lady, we ran you power and phone and ethernet to where your desk was going to be for a reason. We remodeled the place so it doesn't look like poo poo with wires on the floor and desks all over.
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Nov 12, 2015 14:16
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totalnewbie posted:Come on, guys, they're just regular people trying to put food on the table. They probably hate their jobs just as much you hate them but if it's that or unemployment, can you blame them? If you turn down jobs you're capable of doing, you lose your unemployment benefits. I took a sales job once., because it was that or go homeless, and it was the worst period of my life. Long hours, sub-minimum wage pay* and everyone treated you as fair game for abuse. Whenever I feel down working in support, I think back to those days and things don't seem so bad. I'm polite to sales people. *Someone complained to the authorities and we all got letters asking if we wanted to come forward but of course no one did
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Nov 12, 2015 14:49
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Skandranon posted:Doesn't mean you should have to waste your time to entertain them. No, but you don't have to be rude to them, either. Just say that you're not interested and hang up. Volmarias posted:The same argument could be applied for the people who call me to let me know that the IRS is suing me, and that if I give them my credit card number I can just pay the balance now to make it go away. Well, if they're actively trying to scam you, then that's not really the same argument because it's not really a real "job", per se. A real job doesn't really involve clear fraud as its main purpose. But either way, I agree that these people aren't really morally in the same category as people trying to sell you software or whatever you don't need.
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Nov 12, 2015 14:50
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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:This was an official RHEL training. We scheduled it about six months before the class, which was in Dec 2014. You should complain. We contract with the instructors, and that one shouldn't be teaching anymore. The course identifiers are different for a reason that instructor seemingly missed. Storysmith posted:RHEL7 moved from sysvinit to systemd, right? Whatever your personal feelings about systemd, that would be a helluva reprogramming of over a decade of muscle memory performing even the most basic tasks to spring on someone. I'd definitely want a refund unless I already knew and could work with RHEL7. RHEL7 moved from upstart to systemd. RHEL6 moved from sysv to upstart (though in practice, most services stayed as sysv scripts in 6, and libvirt was the big one that moved). For the most part, the same utilities RHEL admins always used (service foo start/stop, etc) still work, even if systemctl is recommended. systemd changed very little from the perspective of the certs, other than the root password bit. A bigger complaint is that the certs for 7 use firewalld, which, while it uses iptables in the background, is totally different on the front end. And the certs for 6 used some GUI stuff. 7 uses all console.
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Nov 12, 2015 15:12
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evol262 posted:You should complain. We contract with the instructors, and that one shouldn't be teaching anymore. The course identifiers are different for a reason that instructor seemingly missed. Eh, I passed the test, so whatever. Pretty much all the systemd commands still work if you enter the older upstart commands, for now, so it wasn't hard. I was aware of the root change, so it wasn't a problem. Other than that, the test isn't much different if it's on a 6 or a 7 server.
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Nov 12, 2015 15:45
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I'm the only person on the phones today. Every single computer in the center will need a reboot due to dhcp change. I'm going to drown.
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Nov 12, 2015 16:13
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Bob Morales posted:Lady, we ran you power and phone and ethernet to where your desk was going to be for a reason. We remodeled the place so it doesn't look like poo poo with wires on the floor and desks all over.
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Nov 12, 2015 16:14
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Tigntink posted:I'm the only person on the phones today. Every single computer in the center will need a reboot due to dhcp change. I'm going to drown. Flip the breaker
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Nov 12, 2015 16:29
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Tigntink posted:I'm the only person on the phones today. Every single computer in the center will need a reboot due to dhcp change. I'm going to drown. Restart-Computer (Get-Content -path "LISTOFCOMPUTERS.txt") -force
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Nov 12, 2015 16:46
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Crawl under each desk, without explanation, and unplug the power strip. Plug it back in, and walk away. Never say a word. Or maybe just power-cycle the switches? Dunno if that will force Windows to reacquire the necessary settings.
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Nov 12, 2015 17:18
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Wizard of the Deep posted:Or maybe just power-cycle the switches? Dunno if that will force Windows to reacquire the necessary settings. It probably would, that's a good idea.
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Nov 12, 2015 17:20
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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:This is correct. There's a few more steps, and "single" doesn't work in RHEL7. The pisser was the class, when paid for and scheduled was for RHEL6, but in the month between scheduling and the actual date, it changed to RHEL7. A lot of people were unhappy, since there was no warning at all. Actually, if you can su into root once you get your filesystem back to readwrite, that'll take care of the SE Linux context changes as well. I've learned this the hard way unfortunatley during my RHCSA class.
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Nov 12, 2015 17:29
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Wizard of the Deep posted:Or maybe just power-cycle the switches? Dunno if that will force Windows to reacquire the necessary settings. Power cycle the whole centre. Slip the maintenance guy  to trip the main breaker and blame it on the power company.
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Nov 12, 2015 17:35
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 We need these tickets complete! These tickets are incredibly vague, can I get some clarification on these from the guy who requested the change? He's gone until Monday, so no.Looks like I'm browsing the forums until Monday then. 
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Nov 12, 2015 17:53
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 Asked for pictures of a computer/printer at a remote location. Someone brought loving photographs to a meeting. Wow.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:03
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Yes DBA, Windows Server 2012 running SQL Server 2014 needs more than 3 GB of RAM. Why yes, you also need to specify a maximum amount of memory the instance will allocate. I laid all that out for you a month ago when I built this in the email telling you 3GB is below the standard build. Oh, so now your server isn't responding? Wonder why that could be... 
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Nov 12, 2015 18:10
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Bob Morales posted:
We've got just the person for the job!  "Move, fatty! I can't see the scanner!"
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Nov 12, 2015 18:11
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Bob Morales posted:
The paperless office has arrived
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Nov 12, 2015 18:19
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Tigntink posted:I'm the only person on the phones today. Every single computer in the center will need a reboot due to dhcp change. I'm going to drown. Gonna guess they didn't adjust the lease times in preparation of this.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:28
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:Gonna guess they didn't adjust the lease times in preparation of this. Lease times? What are those?
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Nov 12, 2015 18:38
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My brain actually broke for a second there.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:48
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ratbert90 posted:Lease times? What are those? They did but they did like 7 days instead of 2 hours. Also we have people running massive data stuff because this is a cancer research center. So basically computer reboots off patch schedule are hugely taboo, there's divisional IT support who was supposed to notify their people that this was happening AND there's a massive kibosh on doing any center wide emails. So far there have been 5 subdomains that weren't fixed. FQDN wasn't working on a file share. Yay for being the only competent phone person for 2500 users 
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Nov 12, 2015 19:23
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What actually changed? Switching DHCP server shouldn't be that disruptive.
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Nov 12, 2015 19:31
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Thanks Ants posted:What actually changed? Switching DHCP server shouldn't be that disruptive. It was more than that. We finally upgraded to be able to do DDNS. I think they had to physically change out appliances. Yep that's it. We changed to infoblox for dhcp, dns, and ntp.
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Nov 12, 2015 19:40
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poo poo pissing me off: Taking a new job and, a week and a half in, finding out that my office could be moved up to a hundred miles away. Yaaaaay.
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Woogles posted:poo poo pissing me off: Look for a new job and I would also bring up some WFH stuff since you accepted the position with the understanding that the office would be where it is currently, and not that it would be moving to a place hwere you would have to commute 2 hours each way. That's if your job is possible to do from home.
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Nov 12, 2015 19:59
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Pissing me off: leaders who assume that every project With lead time, yes, additional people can help tremendously. If you bring on a person with a kneejerk, though, all you get is kicked in the teeth.
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Ynglaur posted:Pissing me off: leaders who assume that every project Look at this malfunctioning resource that needs replacement!
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MF_James posted:Look for a new job and I would also bring up some WFH stuff since you accepted the position with the understanding that the office would be where it is currently, and not that it would be moving to a place hwere you would have to commute 2 hours each way. That's if your job is possible to do from home. Yeah, I can do it from home and currently am for the most part. It's 20 minutes drive right now so it's ideal. I've spoken to my boss about it and he thinks it'll actually end up being very close to me for funding reasons but we'll see. I can always go back to contracting if they start doing stupid things.
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Nov 12, 2015 20:29
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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:Eh, I passed the test, so whatever. "service" and friend are older than sysv. initctl was upstart's utility, and it's pretty braindead. The test isn't that different, no. I meant that the exam objectives and the environment you're in are very different between RHC??6 and 7.
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Ynglaur posted:Pissing me off: leaders who assume that every project Buy a couple copies of The Mythical Man-Machine Month and passive-aggressively leave them in christmas socks on said leaders' office doors.
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poo poo pissing me off but soon to be not: In the year of our lord 2015, I decided to get in on a volume license for Office and deal with the fallout from finance later. Looking forward to being able to do away with the box o' Office license key cards, a disaster which I swear I inherited and was not of my own making. Edit: goddamn there are some Home & Student cards in the bottom 
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Sheep posted:poo poo pissing me off but soon to be not: Ah yes, the same way my old boss preferred to handle Office licensing.
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nielsm posted:Buy a couple copies of The Mythical Man-Machine Month and passive-aggressively leave them in christmas socks on said leaders' office doors. Or put them in said socks, and aggressively beat said leaders with them.
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spending 4 days talking collaboration/doc management/records management only to be told "we have decided everything's a record and thus want rms nodes everywhere" the loving vendor/support/product devs are saying it wont work, the big SI's wont touch it and gently caress you im not under contract im just a speaker at your lovely conference
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Sheep posted:poo poo pissing me off but soon to be not: These aren't resellable, are they? Wouldn't mind getting me an updated copy of office. I still have a copy of 2007 Ultimate I got from that student dealie thingie.
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