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Rhesus Pieces posted:More from that article: This line is really key: quote:“We’re potentially careening down this road of nominating somebody who frankly isn’t fit to be president in terms of the basic ability and temperament to do the job,” this strategist said. “It’s not just that it could be somebody Hillary could destroy electorally, but what if Hillary hits a banana peel and this person becomes president?” Trump and Carson are so bad that a Republican strategist isn't just worried they'd lose to Hillary if nominated. He's worried that one of them would win. They're so insane a Republican strategist is indirectly saying they're worse than Hillary.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:The establishment really has no idea how to dislodge Trump right now and time is starting to run short. It hasn't yet dawned on them that the primary voting GOP base doesn't want a serious, electable establishment candidate. They want a giant middle finger covered in offensive bumper stickers, and that's exactly what Trump is. it turns out when you base your political power on feeding insanity to crazy people, it's hard to convince them to suddenly act sane  Republicans are suddenly realizing the downside of getting into bed with the crazies: they thought they were in control but the crazies finally managed to take over.
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Nov 13, 2015 04:17
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Crain posted:Jesus gently caress! I only make 25k Speaking from experience in going from a $35k to a $55k job, it feels like you just never run out of money and for a while you end up accruing a few grand in savings without even trying, then you get your head around the kind of lifestyle that salary can support and grow into it and then you start saying no to yourself occasionally, but it's for stuff you would never have even considered with your previous job, like a $200 pen.
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Joementum posted:The funniest part of that article is that this is the year the entire Republican bench is running for President and it's not good enough so they're panicking and begging Mitt to run again. Last year: Anybody but Mitt. This year: Everybody but Mitt.
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Nov 13, 2015 04:20
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Joementum posted:The funniest part of that article is that this is the year the entire Republican bench is running for President and it's not good enough so they're panicking and begging Mitt to run again. I think that's also part of the problem, at least according to that article: because there's a bunch of wannabe establishment candidates, each of them wants someone else to take down Trump/Carson and suffer the potential blowback, but none have managed to get strong enough that it's worth it for them to do it. Rubio was looking like he might...so Cruz has started blasting him on immigration and Jeb! is planning on attacking him from the center so he'll now be too busy fighting off the other wannabe NotTrumps 
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Dapper_Swindler posted:seems to me like they should just give into their base and take the election loss, then blame the nutjobs after said loss and try to purge the party of unusable nutters. the Establishment can then try pretend to be the moderate ones and try to reform the party and cut out the social/tea party right. none of this will happen, but its an idea. They tried to do this after 2012 but gave up after about a month of navel gazing. Instead they let the party go full speed in the other direction and now we have Trump, solidly in first place, accusing Benzo Carson of having an incurable pathological temper and comparing him to a child molester.
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evilweasel posted:This line is really key: Wow, so they really are scared. so i guess, who are they more scared for, their party or their country.
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Nov 13, 2015 04:23
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evilweasel posted:I think that's also part of the problem, at least according to that article: because there's a bunch of wannabe establishment candidates, each of them wants someone else to take down Trump/Carson and suffer the potential blowback, but none have managed to get strong enough that it's worth it for them to do it. Scott Walker's failed plea for lovely candidates to "clear the field" is going to end up being the smartest and most prescient thing he's ever said.
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Nov 13, 2015 04:27
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Internet Webguy posted:Last year: Anybody but Mitt. I'm trying to imagine the sick burns Trump would come up with for Mitt, but there's no way he could do any better than "please proceed, Governor" or "we also have less horses and bayonets".
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Nov 13, 2015 04:43
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FAUXTON posted:Speaking from experience in going from a $35k to a $55k job, it feels like you just never run out of money and for a while you end up accruing a few grand in savings without even trying, then you get your head around the kind of lifestyle that salary can support and grow into it and then you start saying no to yourself occasionally, but it's for stuff you would never have even considered with your previous job, like a $200 pen. I had a similar raise increase about 2 months ago. Going from living paycheck to paycheck to literally managing almost your entire monthly budget with the first check is unreal. I'm paying off cards and throwing the rest into savings. Like I wasn't living uncomfortably before (just had like no safety net if anything bad happened). Being able to buy a dumb game every now and then or filling up your fridge with good food is great. I also bought my cat a bunch of dumb toys before I bought myself anything because I'm dumb. That said, I'm budgeting the gently caress out of everything. You Need a Budget is amazing for this.
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Nov 13, 2015 04:45
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Nov 13, 2015 04:55
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I mean I'm certain every candidate has asked that question, but let's marvel at the fact an actual candidate finally loving said it in public
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Nov 13, 2015 04:56
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Fried Chicken posted:I mean I'm certain every candidate has asked that question, but let's marvel at the fact an actual candidate finally loving said it in public Is this that Trump tweet from a few weeks ago that he walked back or something else?
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Nov 13, 2015 05:01
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Nov 13, 2015 05:03
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Joementum posted:The funniest part of that article is that this is the year the entire Republican bench is running for President and it's not good enough so they're panicking and begging Mitt to run again. Mitt's a better candidate than any of them.
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Nov 13, 2015 05:04
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Is this that Trump tweet from a few weeks ago that he walked back or something else? http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-ben-carson-stories-stupid-people-iowa/story?id=35168986
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Is this that Trump tweet from a few weeks ago that he walked back or something else? It's from his 95 minute long insane rant tonight https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/12/donald-trump-delivers-95-minute-rant-on-everything-thats-wrong-in-this-race/ quote:He said he would "bomb the s---" out of areas controlled by the Islamic State that are rich with oil and claimed to know more about the terrorist group than U.S. military generals. He ranted about how everyone else is wrong on illegal immigration and how even the "geniuses at Harvard" have now backed his way of thinking. He accused Hillary Rodham Clinton of playing the "woman's card," and said Marco Rubio is "weak like a baby." He signed a book for an audience member and then threw it off the stage. He forgot to take questions like he promised. And he spent more than 10 minutes angrily attacking his chief rival, Ben Carson, at one point calling him "pathological, damaged."
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Nov 13, 2015 05:23
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Hollismason posted:If Mitt Romney tried to run he'd be instantly devoured in a week and he knows that. Yes, but imagine how loving hilarious Trump ripping into him would be
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Nov 13, 2015 05:24
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JT Jag posted:Just run one of the Koch Brothers directly already Tried that already.
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Nov 13, 2015 05:29
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Joementum posted:One of the big problems with establishing single payer in Vermont, which will also be a problem in Colorado is that states can't actually create a single payer system because large portions of the population are covered by the federal government under Medicare and Medicaid (along with a smaller portion on military benefits), which significantly decreases the size of the pool. Shouldn't that make it easier to implement single-payer from a cost control standpoint? If the federal government is covering old people and wounded vets then the healthiest cohorts only have to pay for themselves. I think the biggest obstacle for single-payer at a state level is the absence of fiscal and monetary tools necessary to weather economic downturns while continuing to fund the healthcare system. If the federal government needs to pay for something during an economic crash it can print money and/or borrow as much as it needs. States don't have that kind of flexibility. e: I forgot to refresh
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seiferguy posted:Some people consider racism to be "prejudice plus power" in that if a black guy treats a white guy badly, it's prejudice because in terms of race, whites have always been socially ahead. I think it's a good way to separate the two trains of thought. No, this project to erase any distinction between 'racism' as 'institutional racism' is disingenuous and dumb. Saying everybody is capable of horrific racism regardless of their own race does not commit a person to denying that it is far more incumbent on those with structural privilege to moderate their own thoughts and behaviour for racism. "Black people can be racist too" is not equivalent to "racism by black people is just as harmful as racism by white people."
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Nov 13, 2015 05:32
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Crain posted:Jesus gently caress! I only make 25k Now consider that $25k is roughly the hourly equivalent of a person who earns $50M/year, or about 4 times what Mitt earns every year from his portfolio of investments and businesses. That's right, if Mitt were paid on an hourly basis, he'd earn in slightly less than four hours what you earn all year. Think about that, and how detached from any of us that makes him, and anybody in his economic class.
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Typical Pubbie posted:Shouldn't that make it easier to implement single-payer from a cost control standpoint? If the federal government is covering old people and wounded vets then the healthiest cohorts only have to pay for themselves. I think the biggest obstacle for single-payer at a state level is the absence of fiscal and monetary tools necessary to weather economic downturns while continuing to fund the healthcare system. If the federal government needs to pay for something during an economic crash it can print money and/or borrow as much as it needs. States don't have that kind of flexibility. No, because the cost savings come from economies of scale.
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Feather posted:Now consider that $25k is roughly the hourly equivalent of a person who earns $50M/year, or about 4 times what Mitt earns every year from his portfolio of investments and businesses. That's right, if Mitt were paid on an hourly basis, he'd earn in slightly less than four hours what you earn all year. Think about that, and how detached from any of us that makes him, and anybody in his economic class. To put it even more succinctly, your yearly income is basically a rounding error to him.
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Fried Chicken posted:It's from his 95 minute long insane rant tonight itshappening.gif Finally. Now we just gotta see the size of the crater this shithead makes.
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Smudgie Buggler posted:No, this project to erase any distinction between 'racism' as 'institutional racism' is disingenuous and dumb. Saying everybody is capable of horrific racism regardless of their own race does not commit a person to denying that it is far more incumbent on those with structural privilege to moderate their own thoughts and behaviour for racism. "Black people can be racist too" is not equivalent to "racism by black people is just as harmful as racism by white people." In my experience the distinction between personal bigotry and institutional discrimination, and the way the two have an additive effect, isn't really hard to explain or for people to understand. The problem is that it seldom comes up when someone isn't trying to defend a bigot as cool and good, accuse one of damage they weren't capable of, or more broadly use it as a proxy battle for custody of the well-established and rhetorically powerful "-ism" words their argument needs to control.
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Fried Chicken posted:No, because the cost savings come from economies of scale. How does economy of scale work to your advantage if all you're adding are sick people? The savings in administration can't be that much. I just don't see how the federal government saying "it's cool, we'll keep paying for your sickest people" is somehow an obstacle to socialized (read: not single-payer) medicine.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:To put it even more succinctly, your yearly income is basically a rounding error to him. Or "makes your yearly salary by the time he finishes lunch"
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Nov 13, 2015 06:01
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Fix posted:itshappening.gif It's not like any of his other batshit rants have stopped him.
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FAUXTON posted:Or "makes your yearly salary by the time he finishes lunch" Wonder how much he made from investments giving his Benghazi speech. My plan is to stay the same budget and put the extra into savings for a house down payment. Living expenses are dirt cheap here in exchange for living near poo poo gently caress GOP rear end gobblers.
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Killer robot posted:In my experience the distinction between personal bigotry and institutional discrimination, and the way the two have an additive effect, isn't really hard to explain or for people to understand. The problem is that it seldom comes up when someone isn't trying to defend a bigot as cool and good, accuse one of damage they weren't capable of, or more broadly use it as a proxy battle for custody of the well-established and rhetorically powerful "-ism" words their argument needs to control. It's actually pretty impressive how we, as a society, have managed to invest the word "racism" with apparently magical power, sort of like saying "Pazuzu" three times. Kind of heartening, actually-- it reflects an extreme societal disapproval that, while limited to the more obvious expressions of the phenomenon, is a good thing to have around. It's not surprising that people get in slapfights over who gets to wield that magic power. everyone gets to use it, dehumanize yourself and face to racism
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Fried Chicken posted:Yes, but imagine how loving hilarious Trump ripping into him would be 
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