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Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

People can die in Sastasha?

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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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KaneTW posted:

DF right now is total hell though.

Sch in Sastasha hard who doesn't cleanse and blames lack of stuns for people dying arfhghfjfhfjf

My first and only runs so far of the new dungeons I was doing more DPS than the entire rest of the parties combined. One had a scholar that never dotted. Both had dark knight tanks that had trouble keeping hate and did around 200 dps a piece. The bard in one group was doing around 400 and the dragoon in another did around 600. I know some of this is the fact that I outgear all of these people, but no one at ilevel 170+ should be doing so little.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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Dr Pepper posted:

People can die in Sastasha?

Hard Mode

Fishious
Jan 9, 2008


Approaching 900 spell speed.

rudejerk
Jul 22, 2014

Actual Shit
Grimey Drawer

Whizbang posted:

So it's just like progression raiding then?

:rolleyes:

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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Fishious posted:



Approaching 900 spell speed.

Nice!

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
I haven't noticed any changes in DF quality with 3.1, everyone was already terrible to begin!

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Fishious posted:



Approaching 900 spell speed.

:eyepop:

Got boots last night that replace my Gordian. Only a little less det/crit but also has a bunch of acc which lets me drop acc elsewhere and still hit acc caps for A3S. Just like the gloves if it'd had a 4th substat the item would go from "yeah better than eso/gordian in most cases" to "better than gordian/eso always."

Vil
Sep 10, 2011

That reminds me, I did get an impressively terrible bard in Arboretum last night. They had extended afks twice (eh, RL happens), consistently hosed up the "dodge poo poo" part of the bosses' mechanics that mostly boiled down to "dodge poo poo and kill adds" (and possibly the "kill adds" part too, I wouldn't be surprised if the other DPS did all that alone). But the best part was that they hit every single cooldown they had on cooldown regardless of target or usefulness: battle voice without a song, warden's paean on themselves, random featherfoot and keen flurry, and all of this could easily happen outside of battle between encounters.

I was going to ask about that at the end and maybe offer some pointers like "use your cooldowns when they'll actually do something useful", but they peaced out as soon as the exit showed up. I'm still uncertain whether they were an exceptionally poor bot or an exceptionally unskilled player. It's really pretty rare that I can honestly say I've had bots as better party members.

Boten Anna
Feb 22, 2010

Technogeek posted:

I checked their post history, by the way, and found no reason to think that poster was anything but 100% serious.

It doesn't really matter, even if they're not serious and trying to troll, it's still an incredibly sad trolling attempt.

Doublestep
Sep 8, 2013

Keep on keeping on!
I decided to do Alex Normal for some gear for my drk thats about to hit 60

I have been unable to clear a4n since 3.1 launched aside from one clear last night

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.
I still haven't gotten around to finishing the rest of Alexander Normal to see the story...

Maybe I should keep waiting.

Samba De Amigo
Jun 11, 2014

Doublestep posted:

I decided to do Alex Normal for some gear for my drk thats about to hit 60

I have been unable to clear a4n since 3.1 launched aside from one clear last night

Don't worry doublestep, I'll carry you

Doublestep
Sep 8, 2013

Keep on keeping on!
i decided to not try anymore after getting a run where the white mage started spreading nisi to everyone to "get the stacks off of me"

Vil
Sep 10, 2011

Given the choice between gearing up my dust-collecting alt jobs in 190 gear from Alex normal vs. 185 gear from the new dungeons, I went with the latter:

- Far less risk of untimely death
- Fewer people to lot against
- Fewer lots to win for a single item
- Most importantly, I love the look of the dungeon gear, while Alex gear gets a resounding meh from me

That last point applies inversely to motivating me to run Void Ark. That stuff falls into the "immediately glamour over" pile, I'm not any bigger a fan of it live than I was in the preview pictures.

KaneTW
Dec 2, 2011

Doublestep posted:

i decided to not try anymore after getting a run where the white mage started spreading nisi to everyone to "get the stacks off of me"

no

people can't be this stupid


ahaha who am I kidding

Fishious
Jan 9, 2008
And my static's bard got this in the same run. Dumb good luck.

Holyshoot
May 6, 2010
Lol if you run anything without enough goons to make up for the idiot pubbies.

Doublestep
Sep 8, 2013

Keep on keeping on!

Holyshoot posted:

Lol if you run anything without enough goons to make up for the idiot pubbies.

you're a shining example that a lot of pubbies are better than goons

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Holyshoot posted:

Lol if you run anything without enough goons to make up for the idiot pubbies.

Guess what! Many goons are tired of running Alexander. It can be real tough and annoying to find a group with enough people to do runs of what you want.

Panic! at Nabisco
Jun 6, 2007

it seemed like a good idea at the time

Doublestep posted:

i decided to not try anymore after getting a run where the white mage started spreading nisi to everyone to "get the stacks off of me"
I ran (and wiped three times on before we vote abandoned) A2 yesterday. The bard was doing 280 DPS (most used skill: wide volley :psyduck: ), less than I was doing as scholar in full emergency healing no-MP-to-DPS-people-are-dying mode, and refused to use ballad even when the paladin, the white mage, and I were all nearly empty on MP, preferring to keep paeon up at all times. The person in the gobwalker did not use any abilities but the bomb grab (and bombs were still hitting people). The tanks were trying. The white mage and summoner were good, but the three of us couldn't quite save the run by ourselves.

The Alexander Experience (c)

Holyshoot
May 6, 2010

Doublestep posted:

you're a shining example that a lot of pubbies are better than goons

Because I don't subject myself to solo queuing exdr and Alex? Or I am bad and need goons to carry me?

Emalde
May 3, 2007

Just a cage of bones, there's nothing inside.
As the Goon Diadem Linkshell is rapidly approaching member capacity within less than a week, feel free to idle in this Discord chat where I will be announcing any organized Diadem NM/HM runs for whatever purpose.

The VOIP is just a bonus I guess if you really care.

Tortolia
Dec 29, 2005

Hindustan Electronics Employee of the Month, July 2008
Grimey Drawer

Doublestep posted:

i decided to not try anymore after getting a run where the white mage started spreading nisi to everyone to "get the stacks off of me"

As someone who loves healing that fight this hurts me badly

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Panic! at Nabisco posted:

The bard was doing 280 DPS (most used skill: wide volley :psyduck: ),

This is actually kind of impressive, in the sense that doing that badly almost takes more effort than just auto attacking.

Saigyouji
Aug 26, 2011

Friends 'ave fun together.
I've run into BLMs doing around 350 DPS before. On Faust.

nuru
Oct 10, 2012

Level 50 Roulette is rad now with the XP bonus because I get to shepard people through instances they never did like Brayflox Hard.

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av
Has anyone seen the HW soundtrack released in the west? I really like some of the tubes in late 3.0 msq but I haven't been able to find it.

Hamsterlady
Jul 8, 2010

Corpse Party, bitches.

KaneTW posted:

DF right now is total hell though.

Sch in Sastasha hard who doesn't cleanse and blames lack of stuns for people dying arfhghfjfhfjf

I got am ast in sastasha hm who didn't cleanse and when I told them they should (politely, just friendly advice) they got snippy with me for releasing during the boss, even though it was at 5% HP

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

Blame it on the misfortune of your bark!
Fun Shoe

nuru posted:

Level 50 Roulette is rad now with the XP bonus because I get to shepard people through instances they never did like Brayflox Hard.

ya the LV 50 roulettes are great for leving stuff now. i ran tamtara hm on my 53 blm the other day and got about half a bars worth of xp, only took 15 mins too

Panic! at Nabisco
Jun 6, 2007

it seemed like a good idea at the time

Thundarr posted:

This is actually kind of impressive, in the sense that doing that badly almost takes more effort than just auto attacking.
The whm turned to me after the second wipe and just did /cry

Phlogistic
Oct 22, 2007

Saigyouji posted:

I've run into BLMs doing around 350 DPS before. On Faust.

350 dps? How about a BLM doing 60 dps on Twintania? He cast fire until he ran out of mp, then put away his weapon and waited for his mp to regenerate.

I looked him up later and he turned out to be from a roleplaying FC on Balmung.

Samba De Amigo
Jun 11, 2014

Kalenn Istarion posted:

Has anyone seen the HW soundtrack released in the west? I really like some of the tubes in late 3.0 msq but I haven't been able to find it.

Soundtrack releases for this game are handled in a really silly way. You won't see anything physical for a while, but if you want to pay $1.29 per track there's about 10 tracks from HW released on iTunes. For XIV music it's either their overpriced $50 blu-ray OSTs or iTunes.

The physical OST containing HW tracks won't be out for a while yet probably.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

I sent one of the pbc airships to collect a material we're running low on because of some house thing people want. Not that we can't probably just buy it but I think considering how often they're used we can have 3 ships ready all the time and still farm things.

Vil
Sep 10, 2011

Phlogistic posted:

350 dps? How about a BLM doing 60 dps on Twintania? He cast fire until he ran out of mp, then put away his weapon and waited for his mp to regenerate.

I looked him up later and he turned out to be from a roleplaying FC on Balmung.

Most RPers that I've run across, have as much competence (or lack thereof) as your average random player when they're actually doing content. (Not all of them RP 24/7.) In particular, they don't let their RP gimmick interfere with instanced dungeon runs. Especially not those with strangers.

What I'd want to know is whether he was doing this because he was taking "I'm RPing as a fire mage" (which I assume would be the excuse) to a ridiculous extreme even though he mechanically knew better, or if he was just that clueless that he didn't know the most basic of his job mechanics at max level.

Boten Anna
Feb 22, 2010

RuanGacho posted:

I sent one of the pbc airships to collect a material we're running low on because of some house thing people want. Not that we can't probably just buy it but I think considering how often they're used we can have 3 ships ready all the time and still farm things.

Are people leaving from PBC for Diadem? If we still need to send them on regular ventures it might behoove us to work out a schedule where we all take turns being the Diadem Bitch FC so the others can airship venture, but I say this with the caveat that Kara is probably the one to coordinate with this on from TPT.

Lumis
Jan 10, 2006

I'm either a friend or a foe. Depends on who's looking.

Mordiceius posted:

If there is one thing to get frustrated about in this patch, it's that pretty much all the new crafting recipes are locked behind specialties. Super cool.

I just hope they don't make it so people have to get their new pre-relic weapons crafted (like they had to in 2.0) and then lock those recipes behind the specialist system.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Lumis posted:

I just hope they don't make it so people have to get their new pre-relic weapons crafted (like they had to in 2.0) and then lock those recipes behind the specialist system.

I'd venture to guess that this could be guaranteed.

I would have liked specialisms more of it was encouraged but not required. If it was "if you're a specialist, all items for that craft are 10-20% easier to make" it would be awesome. It would be easier for people to make HQ items with NQ mats without having to delve deep into becoming a crafting sperg and it would save money.

The beauty of FF14 is being able to do everything on one character. Now you can't.

Chyea
Aug 15, 2011
You can still do everything on one character because specialization can be swapped out for others. It just takes 480 red scripts.

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Boten Anna
Feb 22, 2010

Crafting is kind of a goofy thing anyway though, if you let everyone do everything then a few dedicated people control the market and there's little incentive for casual crafting. At least with specialization you end up with multiple areas where those few dedicated people congregate, lowering the bar a little bit, though what really helps is stuff like FC airships requiring an ungodly amount of midend materials so that there's a market for goddamned near everything, or glamor crystals which are a billion common consumables that will never see the end of demand.

I don't do endgame crafting though so my perspective is limited, but from down here, the more likely I can find a profitable niche or general usefulness without being bleeding edge, the more likely I'll end up engaging with it.

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