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MadDogMike posted:While the logical answer would be Red Corsair, I must go with E. The Clans precisely because of how batshit insane the idea is, especially since the Capellan style of warfare is probably close to the polar opposite of zellbringen given how sneaky they are. With any luck they could push the Clans into Smoke Jaguar-level tactics, and we'd have Team War Crimes vs. Team War Crimes (whoever wins, every innocent within 50 light years loses). That and I find the idea that the prototype CC mechs wind up stuck against the one group with superior tech to them pretty funny; it'd be "so much for the CC having an edge", which about fits their traditional luck in these matters. Actually, considering the origin of the Capellan experimental tech is Clan stuff the Death Commandos stole, that might be the only plausible way to tempt the Clans into getting involved. Not that Duncan knows any of that, though.
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I'm going to vote C because I saw the words red and corsair next to each other. However,Narsham posted:I'm voting D despite the Corsair bandwagon. D is the stuff good novels are made of, but we're all so aware of what Amaris will do, it's almost a throwaway. Thus, pirate funbots. Still, Amaris need to do something soon. I'm hoping for some backstabby twist in the next political vote.
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Nov 14, 2015 07:46
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Going to the Clans does sound hilarious, if nothing else.
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Freakazoid_ posted:I'm going to vote C because I saw the words red and corsair next to each other. However, D is for Davion, friend.
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Nov 14, 2015 08:25
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After reading what everyone has to say I'm going for C: The Red Corsair. They've proven themselves adept at getting into and out of sticky situations while remaining on top the whole time, so extracting Carlos should be something they're capable of.
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Nov 14, 2015 08:31
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That, and sending mercenaries and a hidden ruler posing as a pirate lord to go rescue a prince with their giant robots while he leads a desperate resistance is pretty awesome.
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Night10194 posted:That, and sending mercenaries and a hidden ruler posing as a pirate lord to go rescue a prince with their giant robots while he leads a desperate resistance is pretty awesome. C) The Red Corsair Do Melissa Steiner and Carlos Marik have any history in either universe?
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Nov 14, 2015 09:18
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Going with C since the Red Corsair will probably demand/take some/all of the high-tech cappie salvage as/in addition to payment (if they can get salvage) and I kinda wanna see that poo poo get disseminated, especially to Skye and especially especially if they end up teaming up with/joining the FWL.
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Nov 14, 2015 09:20
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Voting C, but please tell us how much of a clusterfuck would have ensued if E had been chosen.
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Nov 14, 2015 09:22
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Ardlen posted:
Not even slightly. In the regular universe Duncan takes over the FWL then gets put down like a dog by Thomas. Carlos ends up a Captain in a Marik Militia regiment and never gets promoted because of his disgraced father. I sincerely doubt he and Melissa were ever on the same planet, much less met at all. In the PTN verse? There's no mention of them meeting, and since Carlos was off with his regiment, presumably she missed him the last time she Red Corsair-ed her way through. jng2058 fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Nov 14, 2015 |
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Nov 14, 2015 09:27
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Having her rescue the guy would definitely mean they would meet. Dashing princess saves blushing prince from a life of war crimes and body doubles, what's not to like in this story?
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Nov 14, 2015 10:08
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E, if only because the losing factions that get more votes tend to do better "off-screen", so to speak.
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Nov 14, 2015 10:10
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What's the inheritance status for Melissa like? Is she, as in the canon, heir apparent to the Commonwealth, or only Skye after its secession? Because I'd like both the option of the Free Worlds Commonwealth (Free Commonwealth? Free and Lyran Worlds League?) as a counterpoint to the Draconis Suns and the option of an accession of Skye to the FWL.
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Nov 14, 2015 10:46
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C) The Red Corsair The clans are way too busy with the whole "war on the inner sphere and/or Amaris" thing to ask for help from them, and Amaris could very well be crazy for all Duncan knows. Comstar makes a fair amount of sense (for now), but Duncan still has reason to believe they may be involved with Amaris, since his messages to the border worlds keep getting conveniently lost. The Red Corsair, meanwhile, has proven both able *and* relatively trustworthy, so she's likely to actually do what's being asked of her, unlike almost everyone else. The real fun, of course, is that Duncan will probably expect her to ask for either money or mechs (that's what pirates usually want), when she's really more likely to make him swear on his honor to support Skye. Needless to say, if Skye gets a secret alliance with both the Free Worlds League *and* the Steel Viper clan, then they could very well manage to throw a massive wrench into Amaris's plans, which is the kind of set-back he needs to remain interesting.
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sheep-dodger posted:What's the inheritance status for Melissa like? Is she, as in the canon, heir apparent to the Commonwealth, or only Skye after its secession? The Commonwealth of Free Worlds as the leading economic power, Draconis Suns as the military power, and the Capellan Confederation as the secretive technological power makes for a reasonable balance.
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Nov 14, 2015 11:52
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C. More battle appearances by big names! More chances for big names to potentially die due to PTN's dice!
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Nov 14, 2015 12:04
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Going with C, let's risk other big names in a fight with the Capellans.
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Nov 14, 2015 12:18
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As tempting as the Clans/Red Corsair bandwagon is I'm going to vote A) ComStar because that last mission was awesome (I know Kernoff and Pals aren't really representative of ComStar as a whole, but I want to see more ComStar dammit!  ).
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Nov 14, 2015 12:31
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So does Marik know that the Capellans have used stolen Clan tech? We know, yes, but how is Marik going to pitch that to the Clans with the information he has? Do the clans even know that it was the Capellans who stole the tech?
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Endomorphic posted:So does Marik know that the Capellans have used stolen Clan tech? We know, yes, but how is Marik going to pitch that to the Clans with the information he has? Pretty sure that apart from certain Capellans, no-one not on the planet knows about it yet.
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Wafflecopper posted:Pretty sure that apart from certain Capellans, no-one not on the planet knows about it yet. Apart from certain Capellans no one on the planet knows about it either.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Apart from certain Capellans no one on the planet knows about it either. Yeah, not even Carlos and his guerrillas have confirmation that the Capellans are using Clantech; they just know it's some hot-poo poo experimental stuff. Remember that when they saw the -O designation for the Shadow Hawk Skittles Squad they assumed it was the Capellans playing SigInt tricks rather than realizing that these are OmniMechs.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Yeah, not even Carlos and his guerrillas have confirmation that the Capellans are using Clantech; they just know it's some hot-poo poo experimental stuff. Remember that when they saw the -O designation for the Shadow Hawk Skittles Squad they assumed it was the Capellans playing SigInt tricks rather than realizing that these are OmniMechs. They likely don't even know what Omnimechs are. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Nov 14, 2015 |
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PoptartsNinja posted:They likely don't even know what Omnimechs are. I was going to say "Surely their intelligence services have gotten some reports from the Houses that are fighting the Clans re: OmniMechs" right up until I remembered "Oh right, Free Worlds League."
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I was going to say "Surely their intelligence services have gotten some reports from the Houses that are fighting the Clans re: OmniMechs" right up until I remembered "Oh right, Free Worlds League." It took the Inner Sphere ~5 years or so after the invasion to wrap their heads around Omnimechs and another 5 or so to start making their own. They're still in the "these BattleMechs are weird" stage right now.
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You guys are no fun. The Clans would have been hilarious.
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Fraction Jackson posted:I mean, it's tradition in every timeline for a Marik heir to get body-doubled, so... And it's probably already happened. Carlos drives up to the HPG and gets moved immediately to the front of the line? "Sure, just step into the booth, sir." And then "Carlos" exits the battlefield in an awesome huge mech that just happened to be hidden nearby. The Capellans might have been able to id Carlos' body from DNA but I doubt they were testing corpses before the nuke went off and nobody will be identifying Carlos after it.
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Vote count so far: A) ComStar: 5 B) Stefan Amaris: 0 C) The Red Corsair: 48 D) Hanse Davion: 4 E) The Clans: 16 It's pretty much a landslide for the Red Corsair, with more votes than all the other options combined.
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Nov 14, 2015 16:53
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Saint Celestine posted:You guys are no fun. The Clans would have been hilarious.
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Also, politic vote isn't theatre vote.
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goatface posted:Also, politic vote isn't theatre vote. Mini campaign, so the next mission is all but set. We only decide who we're playing as, most likely.
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Narsham posted:And it's probably already happened. Carlos drives up to the HPG and gets moved immediately to the front of the line? "Sure, just step into the booth, sir." And then "Carlos" exits the battlefield in an awesome huge mech that just happened to be hidden nearby. I would say that this depends on C* having been specifically waiting for Carlos to show up, but then, they did seem to move surprisingly quickly. And, well... PoptartsNinja posted:“You needn’t worry about the price,” Garvey’s smile widened. “I’ll comp this one. I assume you’ve already made a recording? Will you be wanting a full verigraph?” So even if he hasn't been doubled already, C* probably has enough information on Carlos to do so, assuming that part of the HPG transmission wasn't scrambled by bouncing a gauss slug off the dish. So this is why asking ComStar for help is likely an especially bad idea in this instance. The Red Corsair, while probably not enough forces to change the military situation for Duncan, is at least more than capable of grabbing Carlos without being likely to return a fake Carlos instead as their end of the bargain. Also, speaking of the Corsair - did we ever find out why Team Banzai is rolling with Melissa and Morgan? A Kell palling around with the real Melissa Steiner makes a decent amount of sense in any timeline, but Banzai being involved always seemed weird to me considering in the original timeline they were always associated with Hanse and the NAIS. Was it because they were hunting down the Helm memory core and the Doc wanted a first-hand look at it? Did it come about after the Kell Hounds were done on Cylene way back after the first mission? Did Team Banzai simply just come into existence in a very different way this time around, considering when and how Helm was found in the first place? It's something to speculate about, I suppose. Fraction Jackson fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Nov 14, 2015 |
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I'm voting C.PoptartsNinja posted:“Shut up, Grouse,” Marcus grunted as his fingers wrapped once more around the stock of his laser rifle. Its presence was reassuring, even though he half expected the specter of William Blake itself to come storming out of the charred rubble behind him. It hadn’t happened yet, but the way Grouse kept on you’d think he’d only been delayed because he meant to invite the ghosts of Aleksandr Kerensky and Stefan Amaris along to help. Shouldn't it be Jerome Blake? Or are the Cappies paranoid about the ghosts of Romantic poets stalking them? 
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Nov 14, 2015 20:23
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C Because A-TEAM vs POWER RANGERS.
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Pussy Cartel posted:I'm voting C. Yes, I was thinking about William Blane. For some reason. Fixed! Voyager I posted:Voting C, but please tell us how much of a clusterfuck would have ensued if E had been chosen. Clan Purple Bird. I'm not serious. Or am I? I'm not. Maybe.
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Nov 14, 2015 21:43
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PoptartsNinja posted:Clan Purple Bird Clan Amethyst Eagle?
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Wafflecopper posted:Clan Amethyst Eagle? Clan NO YOU SHUT UP
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LeadSled posted:Clan NO YOU SHUT UP Endless Trials of Silence.
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