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An earlier post in this thread, or maybe the pissing me off thread, bout how someone likes to respond to cold-calling sales men by feigning a bad connection and having them repeat themselves over and over. I often get calls from "Microsoft Windows Support" so I decided to have some fun (I have a game where I see how long I can keep them on the phone before they hang up in frustration.) (Call comes in on my home business line. The number reads 1-000-000-0000.) Hello this is Matt from Microsot Windows Support. Hi Matt, I'm having a hard time HELLO. THIS IS MATT FROM WINDOWS TECHNICAL SUPPORT. You are from Microsoft? Yes, Microsoft Support. Okay. Sir, a hacker has gotten into your computer and we need you to turn on your computer so we can fix it. Sorry, can you say that again? A Hacker has- A what? I can't hear you. A HACKER. A HACKER HAS GOTTEN INTO YOUR COMPUTER. Oh dear! Is that bad? Yes. This is bad. What? Sorry we have a very bad connection. YES. THIS IS BAD.VERY BAD. Oh no. What do I do? We need you to turn on your computer so we can fix it. Sorry. What? WE NEED YOU TO TURN ON YOUR COMPUTER. You need me to turn off my computer? NO. ON- Okay I'm shutting down my computer. NO! NO! ON. WE NEED YOU TO TURN ON YOUR COMPUTER. But I've just shut it down. Should I turn it back on? YES, PLEASE. SIR, YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO ME CAREULLY. Sorry? This line is terrible. What did you say? Please listen carefully. Okay. YOU NEED. TO. TURN. YOUR. COMPUTER. ON. Turn it on? Okay. Is it turning on? Yes but it is very slow. I'll tell you when it's back. I go make myself a cup of tea, with milk and sugar. The missus wants to know who I am talking to. Who are you talking to? "Microsoft Technical Support" says I have a virus. He sure talks loudly. Yes he does. I told him we have a bad connection so he's enunciating for me. Why don't you just ignore these guys? Where's the fun in that? Dork Yep! I go back upstairs. Hello? Is your computer back up? What did you say? IS YOUR COMPUTER BACK ON? Hang on. It's still showing the white Windows ME logo. Which means it'll be back up soon. Very good, sir. (elapsed time 12 minutes) Okay it's back. Tell me something: How do you know my computer was hacked? Sir, we have a database of your computer and it alerted us. A what? A database. It shows alerts from your computer. Wow! That's pretty neat. It helps us help people like you. That's a really great service. You have a database of all the errors of all windows computers ever? Yes. Sorry, I can't hear you. YES. What? YES! YES! We have a database. We are Microsoft Support. What's that? WE ARE MICROSOFT TECHNICAL SUPPORT. SIR, ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME? YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO ME. I'm sorry, I'm doing my best, but Microsoft's phones are not doing well. Okay now you need to go to the Event Manager. The what? EVENT MANAGER. Go to the EVENT MANAGER. Event Manager? YES. THE EVENT MANAGER Why? SO I CAN SHOW YOU YOUR ERRORS! What errors? THE ERRORS FROM THE HACKER. The what? The hacker. THE HACKER. THE HACKER WHO BROKE INTO YOUR COMPUTER. but my computer isn't broken? Your computer isn't BROKEN. THE HACKER BROKE INTO YOUR COMPUTER. Oh I see. (Entering the room) Goddammit. That's enough. *click* The missus took my phone away and hung up after twenty four minutes of this. My record is over forty. I am a huge nerd. edit: I didn't know there was a limit to smilies per post. Agrikk fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Nov 13, 2015 |
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Roargasm posted:And you're going to punch it down yourself? I hope you have a fantastic time I will. I actually really enjoy doing it. I've got a 24 port patch panel and 2 12's and I'll be damned if I'm not using the whole thing. When I find myself idle, I like to make patch cables. LethalGeek posted:They probably flat out didn't notice because people don't pay attention to things. Also running cable is something most people don't know how to do plus some house configurations make this a nightmare. I had to get funny with mine as there are 2x4's going across the bays so going up the walls to the 2nd floor would have required taking out drywall. So one of my closets has wires in the corner going from the crawl space to the attic to reach everything up there. I always asked before installing. They were all for it. I forgot to mention that I've been a professional contractor for a number of years so this is sort of my thing... but even then, I'm pretty sure most people can figure something out. If you're got firestops in your walls (most people do), these are indispensable: http://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-09-03-54B-DVersiBIT-Combination-54-Inch/dp/B000FCGT12 http://www.amazon.com/Klein-Tools-53751-4-Inch-72-Inch/dp/B007E76CAO/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1447443535&sr=1-2&keywords=klein+flex+bit I prefer the Klein. It's longer and flexes easier, and has no trouble ripping through the stops. It also doesn't catch power wires as easily as the Greenlee did.
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Anyone use MoCA adapters? I have my cable modem on the line that comes in the apartment and have no use for the rest of the coax.
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pixaal posted:What "machine" is he on, and um maybe it's not actually cracked in half (if its actually a battery) maybe it just has a crack in the casing (still dangerous). Ask for a picture and share it. You can feign that there are multiple batteries for that model and you want to get the same one. It's for an FD400 wireless credit card terminal. I asked the person for a picture of the battery, and they said they'd try to get one, since they hadn't seen the damage themselves yet either. The night manager that reported the damage said that there was "a rubber band and a bit of tape wrapped around it". I'll likely get the picture early next week. The battery for these things is nearly the thickness of a deck of playing cards. How even the gently caress they could manage to crack it in half is beyond me. While I'm at it, I don't have a pic of it, but another client that had the same terminal recently returned their to us for repairs. Said unit had very obviously been dropped on the back, breaking the hinge on the paper bay, on the front, cracking the keyboard panel, on it's face, cracking the guard around the keyboard panel, had a puncture wound in the touch screen that was caused by either a pen, knife, or rock, and had unresponsive buttons due to having had coffee spilled on it. Sadly, our supplier was unable to repair it. These terminals are like $300 a piece and these people treat them like rental cars.
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thebigcow posted:Anyone use MoCA adapters? I have my cable modem on the line that comes in the apartment and have no use for the rest of the coax. I use my cable router as a moca adapter
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Agrikk posted:-phone pranking tech support cold call scammers- This sounds awesome. If I had the time I'd set up one of those Linux distros meant to emulate the look of Windows XP as closely as possible, get a copy of teamviewer or whatever into that, and have them bumble around futilely.
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Segmentation Fault posted:This sounds awesome. If I had the time I'd set up one of those Linux distros meant to emulate the look of Windows XP as closely as possible, get a copy of teamviewer or whatever into that, and have them bumble around futilely.
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Segmentation Fault posted:This sounds awesome. If I had the time I'd set up one of those Linux distros meant to emulate the look of Windows XP as closely as possible, get a copy of teamviewer or whatever into that, and have them bumble around futilely. I actually have a PC set up on an external IP address on an entirely different network here at home for external testing and other uses. A side effect is that I have a readily-reimage-able PC sitting here waiting for guys like this when I feel like stringing them along that far.
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Segmentation Fault posted:This sounds awesome. If I had the time I'd set up one of those Linux distros meant to emulate the look of Windows XP as closely as possible, get a copy of teamviewer or whatever into that, and have them bumble around futilely. I've never gotten one of these calls, but it wouldn't be hard for me to setup something hilarious. Will team viewer work on windows 98?
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First thing I did when we bought the house besides paint. The uverse install guys loved me, I was doing the wire pulls when they showed up. The outside drop is on the other side of the wall just to the left of the breaker panel. "Bring it in here, terminate it, activate your modem, and i'll take it from here." The HP desktop runs pfsense.
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pixaal posted:Cat5e is pretty affordable, and should get you over 500Mbit. Sure it's not as future proof, but if you are leaving in the next 5, even 10 years you probably won't have a need for Cat6A in residential. If you do, you have a special case and the power adapter isn't going to fit that need either. If you offer to add wall jacks most land lords would likely agree to it, have them inspect it afterwards even to ensure the work is quality whatever. My uncle just got divorced and got paid by is landlord to install them in his own living space under it increasing the rent value for future tenants. Oh I know, I'd only get 6A over 5E to improve future upgradeability to 10G and that definitely wouldn't apply in a rental situation. At the moment I only care about getting an exceptionally solid connection in the one room where I have the powerline Ethernet adapter, and that's more for VoIP purposes than anything high-bandwidth so it's not a big enough deal for me to add cable runs to the building.
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:If you're got firestops in your walls (most people do), these are indispensable:
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My dear father got one of those calls. He explained to the cold caller his computer was a pad of paper and a #2 pencil. He got a bunch of swearing and the man hung up.
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Segmentation Fault posted:This sounds awesome. If I had the time I'd set up one of those Linux distros meant to emulate the look of Windows XP as closely as possible, get a copy of teamviewer or whatever into that, and have them bumble around futilely. Or set up a windows VM with a bunch of really weird firewall rules / admin permissions. pixaal posted:I've never gotten one of these calls, but it wouldn't be hard for me to setup something hilarious. Will team viewer work on windows 98? Oh my gently caress... Windows Embedded would be a great idea. devmd01 posted:First thing I did when we bought the house besides paint. The uverse install guys loved me, I was doing the wire pulls when they showed up. The outside drop is on the other side of the wall just to the left of the breaker panel. "Bring it in here, terminate it, activate your modem, and i'll take it from here." The HP desktop runs pfsense. I have a habit of doing a similar thing with electrical runs. I do the runs myself then just bring in an electrician to connect it to the panel so it's all legit as far as the county is concerned. It's like $80-100 for an hour of their time and I don't even have to pull a permit. GnarlyCharlie4u fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Nov 13, 2015 |
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or just try not being such a loving sperg and hang up on them and go about your life
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Or set up a windows VM with a bunch of really weird firewall rules / admin permissions. Install something to remotely open websites. Open gay porn randomly throughout from another computer (or the host OS whatever). Maybe remotely launch notepad and have a conversation like your "the hacker". Have them actually stumble upon it. Get their IP setup some screen that comes up "Reverse tracing IP x.x.x.x" with a progress bar. Sky's the limit really. How often are you getting them and how much you want to put into it. If you make some custom sloppy coded things make sure to record it and post.
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go3 posted:or just try not being such a loving sperg and hang up on them and go about your life Guys, I think we found the "Windows Support" caller.
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go3 posted:or just try not being such a loving sperg and hang up on them and go about your life You and my wife agree there. But this is way more fun.
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go3 posted:or just try not being such a loving sperg and hang up on them and go about your life Or just try not being such a loving sperg and let him have fun and go about your life?
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Well that was timely. Here's the battery: Not as bad as I was fearing, but still. How the hell does a parking lot attendant manage to do that? You'd think people would take care of these things, considering it's their only way to process transactions aside from handling cash only.
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go3 posted:or just try not being such a loving sperg and hang up on them and go about your life loving over these assholes is both entertaining and wastes their time, which could be used to scam an innocent ignorant person.
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Has everyone given up on running ethernet themselves? I'm about to put a couple thousand feet of cat6 into my townhouse next weekend and similarly a coworker's the following weekend. I've been thinking about doing some, actually. I got a security system for my house that uses PoE cameras, so I'm planning to run the wires through the attic and then down into my office in the basement. The weather has finally cooled down enough in the past few weeks to make the attic a somewhat more inviting place, and I'm pretty much out of reasons to keep procrastinating on it at this point.
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larchesdanrew posted:I've wanted to run ethernet in my own house, since my children's baby monitors interfere with my wifi, but the previous owners put in a vaulted ceiling in the living room before selling the house and attic access to a majority of the house is completely impossible. I'd probably be interested in ethernet over powerline, but I'd pretty much only be using it on my Roku, and I doubt the signal would be strong enough for 1080 streaming. I've used 2 different models of TP-Links, both at home and a church, and they work fine for what we are using them for. Admittedly not 1080p streaming, but for getting another connection across a building, they worked fine. I used this one: http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-PA...e+adapter&psc=1 It only has a 100mb port, there is more expensive one that can do more. But for 40ish bucks its hard to go wrong.
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$70 powerline adapters can do an easy 200mb/s sustained. Look at smallnetbuilder and the reviews for the ac1200 ("1200 mb") adapters. Real world caps around 275mb/s. They don't beat ethernet when you consider that multiple adapters share the slowest available bandwidth, but they are fast enough for 4k.
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Agrikk posted:Scammer Golf You're doing God's work, and don't you let anyone tell you otherwise.
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Agrikk posted:
Entertainment, and also helping out folks who don't know any better and would fall victims to this scam by wasting more of the scammer's time. Making yourself a very expensive false positive, if you will. Also the limit to smilies got introduced several years ago because people would do smiley art with hundreds of smileys in one post to create a big smiley or whatever and while it was loving hilarious it also made the forum poo poo itself.
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You can get around it with using the image link to the smiley you want to use and img tags.
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thebigcow posted:Anyone use MoCA adapters? I have my cable modem on the line that comes in the apartment and have no use for the rest of the coax. I use them, they are all right. It's good enough for streaming HD for my setup.
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J posted:
That's an interesting read. I've always wondered why the Nigerian scammers continued to announce that they were from Nigeria. But this makes perfect sense.
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neogeo0823 posted:Well that was timely. Here's the battery: There's your answer - lots of people don't give a poo poo because they're not the ones having to pay to replace/repair anything. Or they do something dumb and dangerous to cover their mistake instead of just telling someone what happened. Dumb as hell but happens more often than you'd think.
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Ozz81 posted:There's your answer - lots of people don't give a poo poo because they're not the ones having to pay to replace/repair anything. Or they do something dumb and dangerous to cover their mistake instead of just telling someone what happened. Dumb as hell but happens more often than you'd think. Oh, I know. It just sucks that it has to happen with $300 units, and that the employees will let it go for months before letting the managers know about it.
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I've got a bit of a problem... I have about 200 PCs on Windows 10, and they were all cloned from an upgraded image of Windows 8. Apparently in Windows 8 the default recovery partition size is 100mb. A clean install of Windows 10 creates a 500mb partition, but upgrades leave the 100mb partition. Win10 needs the 500mb partition so there's enough free space to upgrade to Fall Update correctly. So, I have to manually expand the recovery partition on each PC from 100mb to 500mb if these things are ever going to receive further updates. Is there anything I can push out with PDQ deploy that could silently accomplish this without disrupting everyone or bricking their laptops? I've been doing it by hand successfully on a few PCs. I can see in Spiceworks that everyone in the company has way more than 500mb free space, so maybe if I could execute this in small batches and verify, but naturally I'm a little intimidated to be remotely loving with system partitions. This kinda seems like Microsoft's oversight, you'd think they could produce an enterprise tool to fix the issue but so far they haven't even acknowledged it despite billions of forum posts like this: http://www.tenforums.com/installation-setup/12212-cant-update-system-reserved-partition.html
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neogeo0823 posted:Oh, I know. It just sucks that it has to happen with $300 units, and that the employees will let it go for months before letting the managers know about it. Wonder how often the managers don't care either!
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Zero VGS posted:Is there anything I can push out with PDQ deploy that could silently accomplish this without disrupting everyone or bricking their laptops? I've been doing it by hand successfully on a few PCs. I can see in Spiceworks that everyone in the company has way more than 500mb free space, so maybe if I could execute this in small batches and verify, but naturally I'm a little intimidated to be remotely loving with system partitions. This kinda seems like Microsoft's oversight, you'd think they could produce an enterprise tool to fix the issue but so far they haven't even acknowledged it despite billions of forum posts like this: http://www.tenforums.com/installation-setup/12212-cant-update-system-reserved-partition.html Not entirely sure but I've been able to use Computer Management to connect to remote PCs and make changes. I'm no scripting wizard or anything but maybe there's a way to do it via Powershell, script, or a scheduled task? Just grasping at straws but someone else can feel free to correct me
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pixaal posted:Do you really need all of them to be live? Use patch panel, it will add resale value since when you sell the place the next person wont have to purchase a 24 port switch or wonder what the hell each of the cables goes to. They are going to use whatever 4 port black box they get from their ISP. I probably won't need a full 24, but 8-12 depending on how many I want to run in the living room for gaming systems. Might just do another small switch in there, dunno yet. devmd01 posted:First thing I did when we bought the house besides paint. The uverse install guys loved me, I was doing the wire pulls when they showed up. The outside drop is on the other side of the wall just to the left of the breaker panel. "Bring it in here, terminate it, activate your modem, and i'll take it from here." The HP desktop runs pfsense. This is similar to what I'm aiming for. I'll probably do a patch panel with 8-10 active for stuffs. That's going to be a bit in the future though.
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Zero VGS posted:I've got a bit of a problem... I have about 200 PCs on Windows 10, and they were all cloned from an upgraded image of Windows 8. Apparently in Windows 8 the default recovery partition size is 100mb. A clean install of Windows 10 creates a 500mb partition, but upgrades leave the 100mb partition. Win10 needs the 500mb partition so there's enough free space to upgrade to Fall Update correctly. So, I have to manually expand the recovery partition on each PC from 100mb to 500mb if these things are ever going to receive further updates. Are you sure that the upgraded machines don't have a 500mb partition that the Windows 10 upgrade process left at the end of the disk? The machines I've set up recently (reinstalling Win8 then upgrading to 10) have 350mb partitioned at the start of the disk for Windows 8, and then upgrading them to 10 creates another 500mb partition at the end of the disk. In order to get that space back I've had to install Win10 clean (wiping the entire disk) afterwards, which leaves the 500mb partition at the beginning of the disk.
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If if did, it doesn't show up in any partition programs. Maybe the Acronis imaging software stripped it out.
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Zero VGS posted:I've got a bit of a problem... I have about 200 PCs on Windows 10, and they were all cloned from an upgraded image of Windows 8. Apparently in Windows 8 the default recovery partition size is 100mb. A clean install of Windows 10 creates a 500mb partition, but upgrades leave the 100mb partition. Win10 needs the 500mb partition so there's enough free space to upgrade to Fall Update correctly. So, I have to manually expand the recovery partition on each PC from 100mb to 500mb if these things are ever going to receive further updates. You could do this with powershell assuming the partition you wanted to resize has free space after it: code:
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quote:From: JohnnyCanuck
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I received a similar email on Saturday at 5am. Sadly it did not have step 2 on it.
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