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Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
well i've still got an audible credit on the US store. gimme a suggestion. not a culture novel.

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vOv
Feb 8, 2014

syscall girl posted:

chances are they're having a better time than you with your billions of connected devices

i say this having taken a big fat break from internets a few years back

wish you'd take another one so we wouldn't have to read You Are Poasts

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

vOv posted:

wish you'd take another one so we wouldn't have to read You Are Poasts

there's still time

DiggityDoink
Dec 9, 2007

Silver Alicorn posted:

well i've still got an audible credit on the US store. gimme a suggestion. not a culture novel.

canticle for leibowitz

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

DiggityDoink posted:

canticle for leibowitz

Tanith
Jul 17, 2005


Alpha, Beta, Gamma cores
Use them, lose them, salvage more
Kick off the next AI war
In the Persean Sector

Silver Alicorn posted:

yeah but I'll have to pay money & it probably won't work because I couldn't put a billing address outside aus

ah, you used a freebie code?

Silver Alicorn posted:

well i've still got an audible credit on the US store. gimme a suggestion. not a culture novel.

http://www.audible.com/pd/Sci-Fi-Fantasy/Passage-at-Arms-Audiobook/B00MPUOB8U
http://www.audible.com/pd/Sci-Fi-Fantasy/Count-Zero-Audiobook/B0036JSWXY
http://www.audible.com/pd/Sci-Fi-Fantasy/House-of-Suns-Audiobook/B002V8LCH4

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

ol qwerty bastard posted:

i think the hardest thing to wrap my head around was the fact that there are still people living like that in the world right now

like we've got loving spaceships and lasers and grocery stores and poo poo, and there are literally people, right now as i'm typing this on a computer connected to a global communications network of billions of other computers, hitting a stone with another stone to make a spear head so they can go hunt wild game

The future is already here – it's just not evenly distributed. —William Gibson, quoted in The Economist, December 4 2003

Keldoclock
Jan 5, 2014

by zen death robot

Silver Alicorn posted:

well i've still got an audible credit on the US store. gimme a suggestion. not a culture novel.

Pump Six. It's a collection of short stories. NWS,but it isn't pornography.


Heresiarch posted:

standalone complex is pretty awesome just for having the climactic confrontation with the bad guy be a fifteen minute philosophical conversation in a library

I just saw the Arise film. I feel like it is worth watching, and a satisfying conclusion to all of GitS. It isn't stunningly good, just competent, more of the same, if you aren't sick of it.

I feel like the weakest parts of GitS are when Mokoto is monologuing about philosophy (either to the viewer directly or a viewer-analogue like those kids in the new movie)

I really hope they decide to kill the IP after the 2017 live action film inevitably fails, because I don't want to see this go down the road Evangelion has with REMAKES FOREVER to try to keep squeezing money out of the fans.

NoneMoreNegative posted:

The future is already here – it's just not evenly distributed. —William Gibson, quoted in The Economist, December 4 2003

"The future" is in your head. I myself have made arrowheads by knapping flint, and killed game (not with those arrowheads though, with a rifle) to eat. It is an error of the greatest sort to assume that people who do not have the same complexity of apparent technology are primitive. They simply lack an industrial base- their technology is in many ways more refined than the artifacts that surround us, especially the computer janitors of the world. This forums software, for example, is many times cruder than, say,a finely crafted pump drill. vBulletin has had about the same amount of attention and time and craftsmanship applied to many, many more parts and the end result is cruder and less refined than the "primitive" stone tipped drill.

Industry and production are not ends in themselves. Neither is technology or "the future" (assuming you mean time for the sake of time, and not Utopian visions)


e: canticle for leibowitz should be read, not audiobooked imo, but maybe if you got an old man with tuberculosis to read it it could sound right

Keldoclock fucked around with this message at 13:29 on Nov 14, 2015

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

DiggityDoink posted:

tainticle for lebowicz

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug

Silver Alicorn posted:

I had to make an australian audible account to get look to windward :shepface:

don't put yourself through this, just myanonamouse it

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

ol qwerty bastard posted:

like we've got loving spaceships and lasers and grocery stores and poo poo, and there are literally people, right now as i'm typing this on a computer connected to a global communications network of billions of other computers, hitting a stone with another stone to make a spear head so they can go hunt wild game

they probably also have cell phones these days

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

ol qwerty bastard posted:

i actually really liked shaman, as much as it was just diary of a teenage caveman

i think the hardest thing to wrap my head around was the fact that there are still people living like that in the world right now

like we've got loving spaceships and lasers and grocery stores and poo poo, and there are literally people, right now as i'm typing this on a computer connected to a global communications network of billions of other computers, hitting a stone with another stone to make a spear head so they can go hunt wild game

there can't be more than a few thousand of these people

most "uncontacted" peoples still acquire metal tools and poo poo via trade. nobody knaps stone if any alternative is available

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Keldoclock posted:

e: canticle for leibowitz should be read, not audiobooked imo, but maybe if you got an old man with tuberculosis to read it it could sound right

a canticle for leibowitz seems like it would make an awful audiobook. it's quite long, it uses multiple narrators, and much of the text is the interior thoughts of these narrators.

it is a good book though

Dodoman
Feb 26, 2009



A moment of laxity
A lifetime of regret
Lipstick Apathy

Bhodi posted:

don't put yourself through this, just myanonamouse it

cheddar

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

a canticle for leibowitz seems like it would make an awful audiobook. it's quite long, it uses multiple narrators, and much of the text is the interior thoughts of these narrators.

it is a good book though

otoh the almanacs of lies by John Hodgman are wonderful audiobooks

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

a canticle for leibowitz seems like it would make an awful audiobook. it's quite long, it uses multiple narrators, and much of the text is the interior thoughts of these narrators.

it is a good book though

Having listened to it as an audiobook, it's not that big a deal. The Latin passages would have been a lot easier to grasp in text form, though.

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
:shepface:

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer
fwiw the audiobook of american gods is really good

Tanith
Jul 17, 2005


Alpha, Beta, Gamma cores
Use them, lose them, salvage more
Kick off the next AI war
In the Persean Sector

so what have you burned your credit on?

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
nothing yet. i'm indecisive

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
house of suns sounds cool

Tanith
Jul 17, 2005


Alpha, Beta, Gamma cores
Use them, lose them, salvage more
Kick off the next AI war
In the Persean Sector

Silver Alicorn posted:

house of suns sounds cool

if you like john lee it's good

Spime Wrangler
Feb 23, 2003

Because we can.

Trig Discipline posted:

fwiw the audiobook of american gods is really good

agreed

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice

Trig Discipline posted:

fwiw the audiobook of american gods is really good

that is surprising because american gods is bad

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer

A Pinball Wizard posted:

that is surprising because american gods is bad

i believe if you check again you will find that it is you who are bad

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
Neil Gayman

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
gently caress

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

Tanith posted:

if you like john lee it's good

he sounds alright! I just like audiobooks because I'm on the train a lot and I don't always get a seat

robert lister's reading of look to windward was actually fine aside from the audio being degraded. and the audio cd version is $60 lol

vOv
Feb 8, 2014

Silver Alicorn posted:

house of suns sounds cool

house of suns is my favorite reynolds and probably in my top 10 sci-fi books

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer

vOv posted:

house of suns is my favorite reynolds and probably in my top 10 sci-fi books

saaaaaame

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
i finished the ancillary trilogy and i'm a little disappointed

there's some really great worldbuilding there, particularly in the first book, but the plot makes no god drat sense. she kinda handwaves it all with "well anaander is crazier than a shithouse rat, so don't expect a motive!!!!"

the second and third books are a very frustrating, meandering conclusion to a really great start. still worth reading, though.

plot holes or not, nothing in the ancillary set is horrible like the second and third books of Simmon's "shrike" trilogy

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

i liked house of suns a lot but it definitely felt very Dan Dare in places. i preferred his grubbier scifi, e.g. Chasm City or The Prefect

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

I got the sense that the bits of Latin in the book would have been comprehensible to a Catholic who grew up before Vatican II, in that they tended to be either direct references to the liturgy or theological concepts. They don't have much effect on your understanding of the story or even the conversations where Latin comes up.

vOv
Feb 8, 2014

that reminds me, is the poseidon's children trilogy worth finishing? i read blue remembered earth and thought it was alright

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Hogge Wild posted:

Old Man's War and Forever War.

I read those but thanks



Between Canticle for Leibowitz and Simmons' Hyperion books I think sci-fi authors are trying to make me go to church



Actually speaking of the Hyperion books... The 1st is great, the 2nd is OK, and the 3rd is just bad, IMO. Lot of stuff in the 3rd book that's just there for no reason

Larry Parrish fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Nov 14, 2015

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

Larry Parrish posted:

I read those but thanks

could you/rest of the thread recommend other books like them

basically, good military scifi

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Hogge Wild posted:

could you/rest of the thread recommend other books like them

basically, good military scifi

Honestly I really liked Starship Troopers. People like to think of it as Heinlein chest-thumping about the military but it reads a lot more like an enlisted guy who later gets commissioned as an officer chest-thumping about the military. Which is what the main character is.

painted bird
Oct 18, 2013

by Lowtax
lmao ofc you unironically like starship troopers

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Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

Larry Parrish posted:

Honestly I really liked Starship Troopers. People like to think of it as Heinlein chest-thumping about the military but it reads a lot more like an enlisted guy who later gets commissioned as an officer chest-thumping about the military. Which is what the main character is.

Yeah, I kinda liked it.

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