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Arrath posted:As long as shipboard manufacturing includes the ability to poo poo out limpets I'll be happy. Didn't they straight up say it wouldn't
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Adult Sword Owner posted:Didn't they straight up say it wouldn't hosed if I know, I only for back into the game like two weeks ago.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 02:14 |
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Mercurius posted:Thanks, I got yaffled when supporting our wayward space cat so I can't post there any more. I really do think that the Corvette just needs a C7 FSD and it'll be good. It'll increase its jump distance while fully loaded to about 17LY which might be slightly too high but then, as noted, it is described as being used for 'Long Range Patrols'. It's either that or drop the base hull mass by 200t which I don't think they'll do. Personally I've had better luck using fixed cannons, gimballed just miss to much between the target changing direction and the built in "wobble" from gimballed weapons in general. Astroniomix fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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Adult Sword Owner posted:Didn't they straight up say it wouldn't Maybe? It's kind of a stupid decision for a game with a magic high tech refinery that some creates canisters for every ton of whatever it refines. Mining for particular minerals to feed into a factory module would be a cool and fun use of the mining mechanic. Deep space resupply would be pretty good to have.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 02:20 |
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I feel like they said not right away but its something they would like to do.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 02:26 |
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KakerMix posted:Tried the Corvette. Fitted it with two huge cannons, fired at an NPC Asp and stripped its shields off in a single volley. Tried the Cutter out, fitted it for speed and hauling. It can chain boost 365 forever and haul 728 cargo. But man its a dog trying to turn it. It looks a lot better than the Clipper as well. Basically I'd like to see
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 02:35 |
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They Type 7 requiring a large pad has always seemed strange to me.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 02:43 |
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:They Type 7 requiring a large pad has always seemed strange to me.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 02:56 |
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:They Type 7 requiring a large pad has always seemed strange to me. They made the ship too tall, it's the only reason it won't fit on a medium pad.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 02:56 |
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:They Type 7 requiring a large pad has always seemed strange to me. It is not so much the footprint as it is a very tall ship, too tall for outposts. It seems silly but Lakon intended the type 6 and keelback as the "outpost" ships, since outposts don't tend to need bulk trading that couldn't be handled by contracting two or three smaller trade ships. The type 7 strikes me as something designed specifically for station-surface trading. It seems better suited for planetary landing than the other "Types"
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 03:10 |
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I really think part of the issue with the Type-7, Dropship/Gunship, Orca, etc. are that these ships are designed around features that aren't in yet. The T7 does seem like a good trans-atmo trader, the Gunship was obviously balanced around being able to carry a small fighter, the obvious point for the Orca, etc. Really, the Viper MkIV in 1.5 feels kind of the same way, just because the hardpoints are the same. I feel like the Mk IV will really shine as a trans-atmo mission-runner/combat vessel (and the new Cobra will probably just shine, period). All the 1.5 beta is doing is making me super excited for Horizons.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 03:28 |
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I am really looking forward to flying around in this while my friend sits in my fighter bay in one of these. He has been informed that he must type "I AM AWAITED IN VALHALLA!" into local chat whenever he launches.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 03:37 |
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Groggy nard posted:I am really looking forward to flying around in this while my friend sits in my fighter bay in one of these.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 04:02 |
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Yeah, because FDev hate fun, and love retconning .
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 04:22 |
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Helter Skelter posted:Hate to disappoint, but it's looking very unlikely that you'll be able to fit anything larger than the tiny short-range fighters (Condor/Imperial equivalent) in the fighter bays. I was promised Iggles for the fighter bays In other news, within one hour of leaving Robigo I turned in 8-9 smuggle missions for a cool 52 million credits. Groggy nard fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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Groggy nard posted:I am really looking forward to flying around in this while my friend sits in my fighter bay in one of these. I don't advise bi-weave shields on the iggle, sure the recharge seems nice, but you're going to want the extra buffer from normal/prismatic shields.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 05:47 |
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The Corvette and the Cutter look nice, but as long as the Corvette has such lovely range and the Clipper rotates like such a hamwhale, either ship is way too much sidegrade for too much money, rather than being an open and clear upgrade. As it stands, right now, the Anaconda is effectively better than either. You have a ship with none of the glaring and unavoidable deficits of the two premium rank-locked options, which you can swap between roles at will (and it'll do great in either!), and it is significantly cheaper and requires no rank grind.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 06:51 |
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As a ridiculous aside, I'm actually a little upset that I missed out on the chrome Viper paintjob, and I hope that when 1.5 drops we get more metallic paint options. Basically I want to throw money at Frontier so all the ships I like can be shiny and chrome, because I'm an idiot that's bad with money.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 07:19 |
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Have I missed any real MultiCrew chat because friend and I have this night in mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPrtQ9AdoM0 But you know, with 2 people.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 08:18 |
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I feel like they said not right away but its something they would like to do. quote:Ravenov: Will we be able to synthesize limpets? Either as a stock replenish, and/or making existing ones more efficient. For the long range Fuel Rat, being able to resupply yourself when 20k ly from anywhere would be a real boon...
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 08:23 |
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Thanks to a couple friends who've been playing this game for a lot longer than me I've managed to scrounge up enough to outfit a decent cobra and participate in the community events in kaboosh or whatever that system is called. So when the events end I stand to make enough to outfit a nice diamondback explorer for some sweet long distance space trekking and discovery! I managed to convince my friends to tag along too, so I'm gonna try to plan a sight seeing trip to some nebulae not too far from starter space. I was just messing with the galaxy map of the stars around the community event and started zooming out and it kept going and going and going and going. Holy poo poo this game is so kicking rad I can't believe it! Anyone have any must-see space sights not too incredibly far away from starter space? Man exploration is gonna be so cool when you can land on planets
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 09:37 |
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Obviously the jump range on the FDL and Corvette are too low but Frontier have made it pretty clear that they think that it's totally fine for fully geared dedicated fighters to have jump ranges in the 12-14 LY range. I'm still waiting for a ship with the holy trinity combination of decent jump range, weapons (+ power distributor) and flight model, I was hoping that the Asp Scout would deliver but it's incredibly loving slow for some reason and is also fairly light on armaments for its price. The FAS is probably your best bet though it doesn't exactly have great jump range, ~15LY is a hell of a lot more than 12.5.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 09:46 |
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Libluini posted:In 2017, when I have the money to buy a Corvette, I will try to remember your sage advice radintorov fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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radintorov posted:With the upcoming changes, Hull tanking is going to actually be viable with ships other than a stealth DBS (where you still didn't want to get hit), so upping the Life Support system is probably going to be helpful regardless if you are in a Corvette or a smaller ship since now people might be more likely to keep fighting once they lose shields. You don't have to repeat yourself, I understood you the first time.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 10:22 |
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Sard posted:If, after the introduction and expansion of shipboard manufacturing, the endgame of Elite is to become a reclusive deep space hermit nomad wandering among and charting stars tens of thousands of lightyears from the nearest outpost, only rarely appearing like some ghost story at ports to register your findings and restock on cup noodles- assembling everything else you need as you go- that'd be pretty okay. If that's the endgame, then I'm going to be space-Howard Hughes, holed up in the same system, in this until I've got a beard down to my feet and nails as long as shrimp.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 14:25 |
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Interesting: Zhen Dock, in Xihe, is currently controlled by a faction named 'Space Poultry'. Is that a player faction?
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 16:51 |
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Thanks for reinforcing my point
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 17:15 |
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So it just ocured to me that with hull tanking looking to become viable in 1.5, would this make it worth carrying point defense on such ships?
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 17:35 |
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Astroniomix posted:So it just ocured to me that with hull tanking looking to become viable in 1.5, would this make it worth carrying point defense on such ships? Two missiles can take down a normal Eagle from 70 to 0%. Torpedoes are one-shot weapons only, but also far stronger. Since chaff doesn't work on them and ECM only on seekers and torpedoes, the answer is yes. On a fast, maneuverable ship you could get away with ECM, though: As long as you aren't a sitting duck, dumbfire missiles are easy to evade.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 17:45 |
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What is the advantage of hull tanking over shield tanking? I know the downsides are module vulnerability, a repair bill and no recharge equivalent without a specific module (also, damage from bumping into things/ramming), but is there at least a theoretical reason to do it?
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 18:01 |
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Doctor Soup posted:What is the advantage of hull tanking over shield tanking? I know the downsides are module vulnerability, a repair bill and no recharge equivalent without a specific module (also, damage from bumping into things/ramming), but is there at least a theoretical reason to do it? The theoretical reason to do it is half the brown sea jumped into beta, picked up whatever the current "best in slot" combat-conda build is on live (complete with full pulse/beam lasers), got their poo poo pushed in because they tried to pop 6 SCBs at once, flipped everything over to hull reinforcements, and pushed someone else's poo poo in because that someone else was still using all-lasers. If this is any indication, the meta will probably rebalance at everyone putting class 2 SCBs into every slot, but we'll see if Frontier finally sucks it up and makes SCBs unique instead of trying to futz with every other aspect of them.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 18:09 |
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Can't wait for Edmund Mahon's Retributor to become the new meta
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 18:14 |
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Zaardvark posted:Interesting: Zhen Dock, in Xihe, is currently controlled by a faction named 'Space Poultry'. Is that a player faction? Yes, Diamond Frogs has established ties with them. They are a very small player faction and we may be able to use them.
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:The theoretical reason to do it is half the brown sea jumped into beta, picked up whatever the current "best in slot" combat-conda build is on live (complete with full pulse/beam lasers), got their poo poo pushed in because they tried to pop 6 SCBs at once, flipped everything over to hull reinforcements, and pushed someone else's poo poo in because that someone else was still using all-lasers. Ah, so it's a PvP thing then. I'm guessing in that case you'd still go as shieldy as possible for hunting pirates or combat missions no matter what ship you're in since it's more sustainable.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 18:46 |
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Doctor Soup posted:Ah, so it's a PvP thing then. I'm guessing in that case you'd still go as shieldy as possible for hunting pirates or combat missions no matter what ship you're in since it's more sustainable. The main thing this does for PVE is makes losing your shields less of a death sentence.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 19:01 |
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Doctor Soup posted:Ah, so it's a PvP thing then. I'm guessing in that case you'd still go as shieldy as possible for hunting pirates or combat missions no matter what ship you're in since it's more sustainable. They're not really though, unless you like taking a nap with an eye open while your shields reform if they pop* * we will see how much the acceleration helps but dang Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Thanks for reinforcing my point yes you were right, I was quoting it 4 u bb
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 19:38 |
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I'm looking to upgrade from my Vulture into something larger. FDLs and Pythons are similarly priced, and I mostly intend to do bounties. Is there a glaringly right choice? Seems like the FDL is the shootier option to the Python's more multi-faceted capabilities.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 19:38 |
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Vahalla posted:I'm looking to upgrade from my Vulture into something larger. FDLs and Pythons are similarly priced, and I mostly intend to do bounties. Is there a glaringly right choice? Seems like the FDL is the shootier option to the Python's more multi-faceted capabilities. e: I'm biased, sorry.
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# ? Nov 17, 2015 19:39 |
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Adult Sword Owner posted:
Pretty much this. It's a good bias because the clipper is I think the only thing a Python can do that a Clipper can't is dock at an outpost. (I don't know poo poo about the FDL because I think it's ugly as gently caress)
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Adult Sword Owner posted:They're not really though, unless you like taking a nap with an eye open while your shields reform if they pop The largest thing I've flown is a vulture, I guess I was assuming that your shields would never go down on larger ships in PvE because they only go down on my vulture when I'm low on shields anyway and I do something dumb because I'm bored. Doctor Soup fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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