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Mr Interweb posted:Man, what is up with Bill Maher? He seems to be getting more crotchety as he gets older. He was on Colbert tonight and absolutely trashed Colbert's Catholicism. Yes, yes, Maher's super anti-religion, that's his main schtick and all, but he would show some sense of cordiality when he was on another person's show at the very least. And on last week's episode, he keeps bringing up these inane strawmen that the left doesn't attack the lovely things that radical Islam does like female circumcision, and killing the gays cause of "political correctness". Like, seriously Bill? Seriously? Bill Maher is extremely bad, he just also happens to make fun of conservatives/Republicans at the same time so he flies under some peoples' radars.
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I just can't get over the irony that the staunchest evangelicals are the ones clamoring to turn away middle eastern people seeking refuge at Christmas, while complaining that Christmas is being marginalized Between this and the whole Prosperity Gospel thing, I think that the wingnuts who are assuming we're going to be the favored people in the rapture may be in for a surprise.
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Nov 17, 2015 12:08
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Governor Ige of Hawaii said he'd be fine with welcoming Syrian refugees. I know it's only symbolic but it's nice to hear. I guess this is the new litmus test for whether you live in a state run by shitheads or not?
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Nov 17, 2015 12:33
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Epic High Five posted:I just can't get over the irony that the staunchest evangelicals are the ones clamoring to turn away middle eastern people seeking refuge at Christmas, while complaining that Christmas is being marginalized I don't know what you're referring to, but probably, neither do they. E: unless it's a reference to Santa Claus being an adapted version of a Turkish saint, my bad.
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Nov 17, 2015 12:44
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Fried Chicken posted:Have you ever heard of "Southies"? You keep using this term incorrectly, dude. Southie is exclusively a term for South Boston itself, not for its residents. What you're doing is the equivalent of calling New Yorkers "Big Apples"
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Nov 17, 2015 12:53
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Chantilly Say posted:I don't know what you're referring to, but probably, neither do they. No room at the inn? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAQy8v0d_qo Perhaps that's the joke. moller fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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Nov 17, 2015 12:58
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moller posted:No room at the inn? That's not a joke, I wasn't raised religious and I've only read some parts of the OT/NT for college classes so I just had to google "no room at the inn." But remember, Jesus was white.
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Nov 17, 2015 13:04
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Massachusetts just may still be reeling from some kind of past terrorist attack. Maybe one involving refugees... Not saying it's right but is it a mystery as to why MA would be all NIMBY about refugees after two refugees conducted the Boston Marathon bombing?
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Nov 17, 2015 13:10
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(Paraphrased) "It's better to let 9,999 innocent Syrians get hosed over by a U.S. block on immigration than to possibly let in 1 'expertly trained' ISIS operative" - Marco Rubio, noted son of Cuban refugees. The mind boggles.  Just find and replace 'ISIS operative' with 'Moscow-trained Communist spy' for an equivalent Cold War reading.
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Nov 17, 2015 13:12
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I had to delete my FB account because of all this horrific poo poo. What the gently caress is wrong with Americans? 
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Nov 17, 2015 13:24
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Thump! posted:I had to delete my FB account because of all this horrific poo poo. I haven't used Facebook in over a year, how bad was it getting? From a scale of "I think Muslims are a bit shifty-eyed and suspicious" to "immediate genocide and concentration camps now"?
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Nov 17, 2015 13:30
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:I haven't used Facebook in over a year, how bad was it getting? From a scale of "I think Muslims are a bit shifty-eyed and suspicious" to "immediate genocide and concentration camps now"? Depends on who you have on your friends list.
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Nov 17, 2015 13:34
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:I haven't used Facebook in over a year, how bad was it getting? From a scale of "I think Muslims are a bit shifty-eyed and suspicious" to "immediate genocide and concentration camps now"? The right is calling for ending taking in refugees, and some people want to go to war. The left is arguing over profile filters.
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Nov 17, 2015 13:37
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Zeroisanumber posted:Depends on who you have on your friends list. I get your point, but I'm still interested in Thump's personal take.
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Nov 17, 2015 13:40
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Hogan said 'reasoned, careful' decision on Syrian refugees whatever that means http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/blog/bal-hogan-promises-reasoned-careful-decision-on-syrian-refugees-20151116-story.html
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Nov 17, 2015 13:59
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I wish the Republican party could be more like George W Bush. After 9/11 he came out talking about how Muslims were not out enemies and they were being misrepresented by a small group of extremists and we had to protect and be kind to our neighbors and poo poo. And he ensured innocent relatives of Bin Laden who had nothing to do with it were moved safely out of the country so they wouldn't get murdered(some liberals actually attached him for this).
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Nov 17, 2015 14:30
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Hickenlooper said he's fine with accepting refugees. Kind of surprised he actually took a stance since he seems so allergic to them under normal circumstances.
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Nov 17, 2015 14:45
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:(Paraphrased)  Literally WH40K.txt
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Nov 17, 2015 14:52
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I will admit that I only voted for McAuliffe because Cuccinelli was trash and I expected him to be nothing special but he consistently makes me happy I voted for him.  http://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/government-politics/article_6af9dcd8-c623-5fc2-9881-818fe427c740.html The loving Cooch even takes some time to remind us what we narrowly missed by not electing his worthless rear end. quote:“Nice to see some GOP governors trying to protect us since @POTUS won’t,” Cuccinelli wrote on Twitter.
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Nov 17, 2015 14:57
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Nov 17, 2015 15:06
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zoux posted:
1936.
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Luigi Thirty posted:1936. Bob Taft, a.k.a. "Mr. Republican", 1939. 
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Nov 17, 2015 15:13
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Thump! posted:I had to delete my FB account because of all this horrific poo poo. Jingoism and Xenophobia aren't unique to the US. DemeaninDemon posted:Just saw a meme on Facebook saying we've been at peace with Japan since 9-Sep-1945 and that it's time to make peace with Islam. Yup. gently caress. The "Country of Islam"?
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Nov 17, 2015 15:32
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Crain posted:
quote:In 1940, Hitler was able to literally walk through the French army because the nation had been so traumatized by the horror of World War I that they had lost the psychic energy to protect themselves. e: link
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Nov 17, 2015 15:38
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zoux posted:
Circa 1492, I believe. Now we just need an 
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Nov 17, 2015 15:39
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Could someone tell me why it's stupid to be wary of refugees when one of the Paris bombers was disguised as a refugee? Legitimately asking, I usually respect the opinions here but I can totally see why Americans are no longer interested in getting involved in this crisis.
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Nov 17, 2015 15:44
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The Unholy Ghost posted:Could someone tell me why it's stupid to be wary of refugees when one of the Paris bombers was disguised as a refugee? It's discrimination, it is a disproportionate response, and it plays into the narrative that Daesh themselves wants the West to fall into to further their own goals.
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Nov 17, 2015 15:47
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The Unholy Ghost posted:Could someone tell me why it's stupid to be wary of refugees when one of the Paris bombers was disguised as a refugee? One of the Paris bombers registered as a refugee using false documentation, and then went back to France using his real passport.
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The Unholy Ghost posted:Could someone tell me why it's stupid to be wary of refugees when one of the Paris bombers was disguised as a refugee? Did that end up being confirmed?
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The Unholy Ghost posted:Could someone tell me why it's stupid to be wary of refugees when one of the Paris bombers was disguised as a refugee? 1) We don't know that that is true. 2) The US has a much more extensive screening process than anything the EU does (we have let in over 700K refugees from the middle east since 2002 and none of them has ever been arrested for terrorism) 3) The people who are saying that are already proven racists or demagogues who are trying to appeal to racists and islamophobes to score cheap political points.
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Nov 17, 2015 15:49
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America has something like 750,000 refugees since 9/11 and only three have ever had terrorist convictions (for providing money to AQ in Iraq). Statistically refugees are one of the least likely groups to go terrorist, and before they can come to America have to receive very thorough background checks, and most of them are women and children.
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Nov 17, 2015 15:49
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Geoff Peterson posted:If it helps, everyone involved says that it was horrible timing and a horrible angle on the photo. Apparently, the attacker was swinging the flag at his target rather than trying to impale him. Plus the guy that looks likes he holding the black guy for the kill shot was actually trying to help him up and out of the way
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Nov 17, 2015 15:52
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As far as I'm concerned, Syrian refugees are only connected with terrorism in that they are desperately fleeing it.
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Thump! posted:I had to delete my FB account because of all this horrific poo poo. Our society trains us to be willfully ignorant which leads to racism, xenophobia, and paranoia.
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Nov 17, 2015 15:57
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The Unholy Ghost posted:Could someone tell me why it's stupid to be wary of refugees when one of the Paris bombers was disguised as a refugee? because math
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The Unholy Ghost posted:Could someone tell me why it's stupid to be wary of refugees when one of the Paris bombers was disguised as a refugee? In addition to the other points (most notably that there's drat near zero evidence of refugees being a security risk), rejecting refugees is exactly what IS wants us to do. We are literally falling over ourselves to fulfil their goals for them because Brown People. It's sentencing tens of thousands (at the lowball) of innocents to death and giving IS more soldiers, and every drat fool who's clammoring to reject all refugees is going out of their way to try and provide.
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The Unholy Ghost posted:Could someone tell me why it's stupid to be wary of refugees when one of the Paris bombers was disguised as a refugee? Because, as you said, it was a disguise. He wasn't really a refugee, all the attackers were EU citizens. So blaming the refugees for the fact that others are pretending to be then is stupid. More to the point, getting people and governments to turn against the refugees, to "eliminate the gray zone" was explicitly their goal. Strategy 101: if your enemy wants you to do something, don't
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Nov 17, 2015 16:08
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Fried Chicken posted:Because, as you said, it was a disguise. He wasn't really a refugee, all the attackers were EU citizens. So blaming the refugees for the fact that others are pretending to be then is stupid. What if instead of that we super did what they were trying to get us to do, but like 100 times more than they even dreamed?
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Combed Thunderclap posted:Jeb! is apparently calling for keeping all the (non-Christian) refugees in safe zones, so it's also the former Yugoslavia all over again. In case anyone wondering what's that like for the lucky few able to escape Syria without being killed, it boils down to starvation and kid labor. quote:Mustafa, Hana’s 10-year-old cousin, arrived moments later, along with his mother, Suraiya, who began tying the purple laces on his sneakers. He still wore the same green flannel pajamas he had worn for days; clothing was in short supply. Five minutes later, Hana’s 10-year-old cousin Ala’a arrived, prompting Hana’s first smile of the day. A small crowd quickly formed. Soon enough, the temperature would begin to soar, but now there was a chill in the air, and when people started moving toward the truck, Hana ran: She and Mustafa liked to sit with their backs against the cab, so the others would shelter them from the wind. quote:Everyone at the settlement had known that kind of terror. “Please don’t tell me your story,” she would say to her friends, “because if you do, it will make me think of what happened to me.” And then she would tell them exactly what had happened to her. Whenever a disturbing news story about Syria played on a television they had in the tent, the children cried. Hana, too — not so much because they were all disturbed by the latest horror, she thought, but because they were reliving their own.
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Fried Chicken posted:Because, as you said, it was a disguise. He wasn't really a refugee, all the attackers were EU citizens. So blaming the refugees for the fact that others are pretending to be then is stupid. Just to be fair, three attackers are still unidentified, including the fake Syrian. That said I agree completely and wouldn't be surprised if they're French or Belgian.
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