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Fried Chicken posted:You ever notice how every time we interact, I point out you have no idea what you are talking about, and you lose your poo poo? Sure, you win! Please stop interacting with me, if you can.
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Trump has a plan! https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-refugee-plan-syria-take-a-big-swatch-of-land-151331354.html quote:Trump offered an alternative solution for the refugees: build a “safe zone” for them — in their home country.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:37
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Thump! posted:I have two PTSD-addled brothers who are former Army, a bunch of people who I was in the Marines with, and a mix between ultra-religious family members and some airsofters/try hard nerds. This is odd. Every single FB friend I have who served in the Army (and all have confirmed kills either as snipers or drone operators) are strongly against camps and nukes, and are generally really understanding. In fact, they say it's strictly because being over there and working side by side with people, or trying to work with around civilians expands their worldview. Marines seem to be a different shift, though from my experience.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:38
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Luigi Thirty posted:Trump has a plan! Just build a nice, safe camp for the refugees. Just concentrate them all in that camp and everyone will be happy.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:39
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Fried Chicken posted:In terms of what, structural failures, or ideological control? Because id say the structural failures went well beyond Kabul. Actually looking back I think I misunderstood what the guy said.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:39
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Luigi Thirty posted:Trump has a plan! To be fair, making their home country safe to live in isn't a bad idea for solving the refugee problem. I mean, that's a massive undertaking in literally every way and not what Trump's talking about at all, but the base concept isn't completely insane. (Just how he implies he wants to go about it.)
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Nov 17, 2015 18:40
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FlamingLiberal posted:Paul Ryan just came out and said that the President does not need a new AUMF against ISIS, so that puts a hole in that GOP talking point Actually it bolsters it. If Obama had the power in him all along, then why hasn't he used it to put boots on the ground? 
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Nov 17, 2015 18:40
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zoux posted:I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill em all. When ISIS sends a meteor your way we'll get in touch for people who would like to know more.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:41
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Samurai Sanders posted:Governor Ige of Hawaii said he'd be fine with welcoming Syrian refugees. I know it's only symbolic but it's nice to hear. I guess this is the new litmus test for whether you live in a state run by shitheads or not? Our governor had a pretty good response which can be paraphrased as " The Feds run immigration so we couldn't keep out refugees if we wanted to, and I haven't even thought about it because I'm dealing with a 3.5B budget deficit."
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Nov 17, 2015 18:41
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Jihadist terror in the Middle East will never end as long as they have consistent sources of income. Sunni terrorists are the most prevalent and dangerous, and they are bankrolled by the Persian Gulf petrostates. Any intervention will be futile until this arrangement ends.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:42
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Luigi Thirty posted:Trump has a plan! Trump continues to deliver solutions that good ol' boys sitting on the front porch would think of. "Let's just build a wall along the entire southern border", "let's build a big ol' camp for all them refugees"; it's Duck Dynasty solutions for complicated real world problems.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:43
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radical meme posted:Trump continues to deliver solutions that good ol' boys sitting on the front porch would think of. "Let's just build a wall along the entire southern border", "let's build a big ol' camp for all them refugees"; it's Duck Dynasty solutions for complicated real world problems. And the Duck Dynasty watchers hear it and vote for him because "none of those other Washington idiots came up with a common sense solution for this" when it's completely unrealistic and unworkable.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:44
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Fried Chicken posted:A major new poll from the Public Religion Research Institute suggests these GOP lawmakers and candidates may be reading the mood of the overall public — and GOP voters in particular — with dispiriting accuracy. I hope they don't believe that simply polling about 'immigrant' gives any useful data on how the American public feels about Syrian refugees.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:44
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Luigi Thirty posted:Trump has a plan! Trump's plan: 1. Call for an event thats likely to occur 2. Claim ownership over the solution 3. Make some loving money Apart from that, if anyone knows how to provide safe accomodations for masses of desperate folk, it'd be Trump Hotels & Casinos.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:45
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MrChupon posted:I hope they don't believe that simply polling about 'immigrant' gives any useful data on how the American public feels about Syrian refugees.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:46
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Luigi Thirty posted:And the Duck Dynasty watchers hear it and vote for him because "none of those other Washington idiots came up with a common sense solution for this" when it's completely unrealistic and unworkable. How can you say that when it hasn't even been tried properly since the Boer War?
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Nov 17, 2015 18:46
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FlamingLiberal posted:Paul Ryan just came out and said that the President does not need a new AUMF against ISIS, so that puts a hole in that GOP talking point That has been their position for a while. It really is just the GOP wanting to be able to get their war-boner stroked while also being able to completely blame Obama if things go all quagmire on us. Having a vote on record explicitly authorizing things gets in the way of the latter.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:48
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Luigi Thirty posted:Shahada! Captain Wahhabi! He's our hero! Gonna bring apostates down to zero! Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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Nov 17, 2015 18:49
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greatn posted:Then it is time for us to deploy operation Lightspeed Rescue.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:49
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Luigi Thirty posted:Trump has a plan! Assad certainly seems ok with letting pieces of Syria slip from his regime's control.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:49
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I'll tell you who's got a loving war-boner, it's CNN. Their site has been at defcon 5 since the attacks.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:50
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zoux posted:I'll tell you who's got a loving war-boner, it's CNN. Their site has been at defcon 5 since the attacks. 
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Nov 17, 2015 18:51
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Gravel Gravy posted:Assad certainly seems ok with letting pieces of Syria slip from his regime's control. To be fair, he's unlikely to agree to anything the g20 comes up with at this point. And his compliance really isn't a factor.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:52
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zoux posted:I'll tell you who's got a loving war-boner, it's CNN. Their site has been at defcon 5 since the attacks. "If only we were covering an active violent conflict, our half-assed reporting and shoddy fact-checking would be excused!"
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Nov 17, 2015 18:53
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zoux posted:I'll tell you who's got a loving war-boner, it's CNN. Their site has been at defcon 5 since the attacks. CNN feels like international crisis news is their niche, so they go loving balls to the wall whenever they have the opportunity.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:54
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Absurd Alhazred posted:"If only we were covering an active violent conflict, our half-assed reporting and shoddy fact-checking would be excused!" Have any news networks developed a stealth boat yet?
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Nov 17, 2015 18:55
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zoux posted:I'll tell you who's got a loving war-boner, it's CNN. Their site has been at defcon 5 since the attacks. Yeah, CNN's pretty much reverted entirely to the post-9/11, pre-Iraq War mindset over the past few days, along with much of the mainstream media. It's depressing to watch.
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Fox Vilifies Muslims, Says Comparison Of Islam To Rabies Is "Applicable" Todayquote:Ashley Webster: Winston Churchill's Quote "Islam Is As Dangerous In A Man As Rabies In A Dog" Is "Applicable" Today e; DaveWoo posted:Yeah, CNN's pretty much reverted entirely to the post-9/11, pre-Iraq War mindset over the past few days, along with much of the mainstream media. It's depressing to watch. Hard to tell with Fox though.
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Nov 17, 2015 18:59
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DaveWoo posted:Yeah, CNN's pretty much reverted entirely to the post-9/11, pre-Iraq War mindset over the past few days, along with much of the mainstream media. It's depressing to watch. Not just them, pretty much every blog that was active in that period except Atridos as well. There is a real hunger for a war, no matter what or why, from the same corner that really should know better.
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Nov 17, 2015 19:00
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I feel like the most productive thing to do right now is to get people to stop watching cable news.
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Nov 17, 2015 19:04
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Luigi Thirty posted:Trump has a plan! What the gently caress is this? No, I get it, it's Trump pandering as usual, but what the gently caress. "Nuh uh, ISIS can't touch me, I'm in a safe zone." Does that safety also extend to drone strikes? This is giving me a headache.
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Nov 17, 2015 19:09
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Isn't the age of the average cable news viewer in the 60s?
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Fried Chicken posted:Not just them, pretty much every blog that was active in that period except Atridos as well. There is a real hunger for a war, no matter what or why, from the same corner that really should know better. War is health of the State.
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Nov 17, 2015 19:09
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Darko posted:This is odd. Every single FB friend I have who served in the Army (and all have confirmed kills either as snipers or drone operators) are strongly against camps and nukes, and are generally really understanding. My brothers are kinda shitheads. I think they get it from our late father, who was hooked in hard to the Fox News machine.
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Nov 17, 2015 19:19
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Luigi Thirty posted:Isn't the age of the average cable news viewer in the 60s? Yes, Fox is in the mid 70s.
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Riosan posted:What the gently caress is this? No, I get it, it's Trump pandering as usual, but what the gently caress. Plus, it's an absolute guarantee that a safe zone like he's proposing would turn into a safe zone for ISIS; it'd be their command and recruitment center for all of Syria.
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Nov 17, 2015 19:26
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MySwan posted:Is anyone else surprised that Massachusetts, the land of Elizabeth Warren and only one that voted for McGovern, wants to ban Syrian refugees? Can someone who lives there comment on this? New Hampshire and Maine, sure, they're backwards states, but I thought Massachusetts was a little better than that (a little bit). loving GOP Frankenstein rear end in a top hat governor Charlie Baker.
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Nov 17, 2015 19:27
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Riosan posted:What the gently caress is this? No, I get it, it's Trump pandering as usual, but what the gently caress. Erdogan originally wanted a safe zone in Syria, which it turns out was impossible to defend since we have no boots on the ground there.
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Nov 17, 2015 19:28
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Riosan posted:What the gently caress is this? No, I get it, it's Trump pandering as usual, but what the gently caress. The safe zone thing is making fun of the GOP bete noir, college liberals.
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Alter Ego posted:loving GOP Frankenstein rear end in a top hat governor Charlie Baker. Charles Pierce at Esquire, a journalist whose opinion I respect, has a more nuanced take on the concerns of Charlie Baker.
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