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veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Verviticus posted:

how the gently caress did anyone play this game and go "yes. every enemy having infinite molotovs that never miss is a good thing"

I've played this game for like 50 hours and I've run into maybe 5 that seemed to have a buttload of molotovs. Are you near Corvega? Because they all seemed to be there. and you basically have nothing at that point so they just wreck you.

Imaginary Friend posted:

Aiming at settlers in building mode highlights their assigned stuff if they have any.. why not just a tooltip saying what they're assigned to, bethesda >_<

It's like everything has the base systems setup but somehow they missed the whole UI-part.

Yeah, the building mode is too robust to be an afterthought, but the UI is so bad it's unbelievable. It's the one thing that seems really half baked about the game. The worst part is that it feels like it's in this grey area between totally frivolous and necessary. I kind if wish they had fleshed it out more and released it as an update or something.

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Endymion FRS MK1
Oct 29, 2011

I don't know what this thing is, and I don't care. I'm just tired of seeing your stupid newbie av from 2011.
Does pocketing and deep pocketing armor have any effect when put on a companion? Being able to see their carry weight in game would be really useful.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

NESguerilla posted:

I've played this game for like 50 hours and I've run into maybe 5 that seemed to have a buttload of molotovs. Are you near Corvega? Because they all seemed to be there. and you basically have nothing at that point so they just wreck you.

They don't have infinite molotovs. The cheeky bastards just know to swap positions and let someone else get an angle on you when they run out. I noticed that earlier. One will lob all of his molotovs and then either fall back or advance while another raider takes up his position and provides literal covering fire.

Corvega has a ridiculous number of bandits, so when you're behind cover and can't see past due to the steady stream of flame and bullets it just looks like they have an infinite number.

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

I really wish I could get a good supply of molotovs without having to burn 4 oil on each or just cheat them in cause gently caress they are the only grenade that explodes on contact everything else just gets the heck away from the grenade before it can ever do anything. I hate having to throw frags into the dirt while backpedling to use the dumb things.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

NecroMonster posted:

I really wish I could get a good supply of molotovs without having to burn 4 oil on each or just cheat them in cause gently caress they are the only grenade that explodes on contact everything else just gets the heck away from the grenade before it can ever do anything. I hate having to throw frags into the dirt while backpedling to use the dumb things.

They're honestly not that hard to find. I have so many explosives at the moment that I can't possibly use them all. I've started giving grenades to my companions in batches of ten to fifteen since I don't like them weighing me down so much.

Incidentally, your companions love to use grenades. Got a ghoul? They'll lob it even if it doesn't have a chance of hitting. Enemy limping behind cover? That's a nade. Are you trying to sledgehammer some rear end in a top hat into oblivion? That's a nade too.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Archonex posted:

They don't have infinite molotovs. The cheeky bastards just know to swap positions and let someone else get an angle on you when they run out. I noticed that earlier. One will lob all of his molotovs and then either fall back or advance while another raider takes up his position and provides literal covering fire.

Yeah I don't think any of the enemies have infinite explosives.

The Ai can actually be pretty smart when it's not being hilariously dumb so that wouldn't surprise me. There is a mob north of corvega that has an obscene amount of molotovs though. I remember getting destroyed there repeatedly.

veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Nov 18, 2015

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

NecroMonster posted:

I really wish I could get a good supply of molotovs without having to burn 4 oil on each or just cheat them in cause gently caress they are the only grenade that explodes on contact everything else just gets the heck away from the grenade before it can ever do anything. I hate having to throw frags into the dirt while backpedling to use the dumb things.

Raiders can't toss their molotovs if you blow their brains out with a sniper rifle before the shooting starts :ssh:.

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

well generally I blitz them all into the dirt with a bat and then loot the corpses before any of them really get to do anything but I get sick of getting like one molotov off of a group of raiders i wanna make the world burn and the flamer is an awful loving weapon

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

MisterBibs posted:

More data on how bonkers well 4 is doing, this time in the UK. The line about the Starcraft 2 expansion opening at 23rd place is extremely hilarious to me.

Blizzard made an expansion for a dead game?

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

NESguerilla posted:

Yeah I don't think any of the enemies have infinite explosives.

A few of them do, but I think its only special cases. When I cleared the Ironwork one of the Forged did nothing but throw molotovs. As in, it was the same guy standing in the same spot endlessly chucking molotovs at the wall I was near. I stood still and just watched him do it for awhile to see if he would ever run out, and after a minute I said gently caress it and just facetanked one of the molotovs before smashing his face off.

Honestly I don't get the grenade complaints I've heard about this game. Enemies can be really fast and accurate with molotovs occasionally, but those don't even hurt that much relative to a real frag grenade which have generous timers.

BAILOUT MCQUACK!
Nov 14, 2005

Marco! Yeaaah...
The rate at which outdoor sectors reset and repopulate items is a little too quick. It's not even respawning the enemies either so it's just free loot.

Dog Kisser
Mar 30, 2005

But People have fears that beasts do not. Questions, too.
Don't have the game, haven't tested, but this seems useful!

Full Dialogue Interface

Son of a Vondruke!
Aug 3, 2012

More than Star Citizen will ever be.

So I just figured out a really dumb, inefficient, source of infinite exp. I was in Back Street Apparel doing a mission for Tinker Tom. There's a room with a pick-able safe connected to a hack-able computer terminal. I picked the safe first, then hacked the terminal. Now instead of the option to unlock the safe the terminal gives me the option to lock it instead. When you pick the lock again it gives you 13exp. You can just repeat that indefinitely.

Fereydun
May 9, 2008

Fereydun posted:

seriously why is it like that, who the gently caress is gonna lug in all the supplies needed there

turns out it's me because i saw there were cat paintings

i need more cat paintings

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 2 years!

Son of a Vondruke! posted:

So I just figured out a really dumb, inefficient, source of infinite exp. I was in Back Street Apparel doing a mission for Tinker Tom. There's a room with a pick-able safe connected to a hack-able computer terminal. I picked the safe first, then hacked the terminal. Now instead of the option to unlock the safe the terminal gives me the option to lock it instead. When you pick the lock again it gives you 13exp. You can just repeat that indefinitely.
There are many places where enemies respawn so that method is stupid.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

Baron Bifford posted:

There are many places where enemies respawn so that method is stupid.

You also get like 13-15 exp for placing a single prop in a settlement, so if you want to "grind", just do that.

Son of a Vondruke!
Aug 3, 2012

More than Star Citizen will ever be.

Baron Bifford posted:

There are many places where enemies respawn so that method is stupid.

I said it was dumb and inefficient. I just thought it was interesting that it was possible.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Corvega's a goddamn maze. It's one of the places where I'd actually consider getting VANS.

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

alternatively you could just use console commands to give yourself levels.

Though that reminds me of a bug in New Vegas that let you repeat the completion for the Helios quest infinitely as long as you chose the right dialog options, and it gave you a doctor bag, stimpacks, and a pile of caps and exp every time.

Minorkos
Feb 20, 2010


considering they made like 7 times their budget, it'd be cool if they could actually put money into their next project

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

Dapper_Swindler posted:

So i am around level 9 and a did a ton of quests for the minutemen and haven't done anything for the main story. should i head to diamond city now? every time i head south i get destroyed by super mutant suicide bombers. Also can i raise my SPECIALS at all?

Every level you can raise your specials. Just click the top entry in the column.

Also, suiciders are dumb. I either shoot their hand and kill all their buddies or I miss and die. Great mechanic.

Tupperwarez
Apr 4, 2004

"phphphphphphpht"? this is what you're going with?

you sure?

Archonex posted:

Incidentally, your companions love to use grenades. Got a ghoul? They'll lob it even if it doesn't have a chance of hitting. Enemy limping behind cover? That's a nade. Are you trying to sledgehammer some rear end in a top hat into oblivion? That's a nade too.
Man, things have really escalated since 2D Fallout. Back then, it was just Ian shooting you in the back, or Sulik emptying his SMG directly into your spine.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

I actually like how allies will occasionally grab weapons from the ground and use 'em of their own volition. Preston took a goddamn minigun off a Super Mutant and went wild with it. That surprised me.

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 2 years!

Son of a Vondruke! posted:

I said it was dumb and inefficient. I just thought it was interesting that it was possible.
Relocking and repicking the same lock is how real locksmiths train themselves, so it's perfectly acceptable.

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 2 years!

Speedball posted:

Corvega's a goddamn maze. It's one of the places where I'd actually consider getting VANS.
VANS would have been neat back in Fallout 3 when exploring the ruins of Washington DC. That entire place was a maze.

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe
VANS is basically like Clairvoyance in Skyrim, right? I have a few level gaps in my current build where nothing unlocks...

old-timey newspaper gal
Feb 23, 2005
Has anyone tried jacking their Charisma up with the console and seeing how high the settler cap can go? Some of my settlements have a few more than my CHA+10 so im guessing they showed up while I was wearing my shopping gear.


Also sweet settlement building tip: Objects placed while you are using TCL do not clip so you can actually make stuff decent looking. Objects placed while not using TCL will still have clipping so you will need to pick them up and set them back down if you want to clip through them. Pretty awesome and a lot easier than that rug trick or whatever I've seen posted.


Cirosan posted:

Collaborating with Russian modder shadwar, I've released a mod that makes the game display the full lines of what your character is going to say in conversation, instead of just a paraphrase. It also revamps the interface so that the game will now display dialogue options in a list and use the number keys for input, instead of clustering all of them together and forcing you to use the arrow keys.

Download it here:
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1235

Enjoy!

Awesome thank you. Really annoying when I say the opposite of what I thought I had chosen.

Theta Zero
Dec 22, 2014

I've seen it.

NecroMonster posted:

I really wish I could get a good supply of molotovs without having to burn 4 oil on each or just cheat them in cause gently caress they are the only grenade that explodes on contact everything else just gets the heck away from the grenade before it can ever do anything. I hate having to throw frags into the dirt while backpedling to use the dumb things.

You can target your own grenades in VATS if that makes a difference.

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


Cutting fluid is good way to get tons of oil. If you need a decent supply of bone, I found a busload of bone parts near Faneuil Hall while trying to get to Goodneighbor.

NESguerilla posted:

I've played this game for like 50 hours and I've run into maybe 5 that seemed to have a buttload of molotovs. Are you near Corvega? Because they all seemed to be there. and you basically have nothing at that point so they just wreck you.


Pretty much all raider and some super mutant camps love to spam grenades/molotovs. I got pinned down pretty badly in the Atomatoys HQ because one super mutant just stood next to the one path I had upstairs and threw molotovs for the next few minutes straight. I went around looting the downstairs for a while to wait it out and he just lobbed them at the same spot the whole time. I finally just had to eat the damage to make it stop. I've run into this with others mutants nowhere near Corvega but at least they were mostly outdoors where I could move.


MisterBibs posted:

VANS is basically like Clairvoyance in Skyrim, right? I have a few level gaps in my current build where nothing unlocks...

It was nice in complicated areas but Clairvoyance had a lot of problems. I remember so many times it would just draw paths that expected me to walk through solid walls (no not secret doors, just walls). I'd save the perk for later personally.

Kimmalah fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Nov 18, 2015

Hugh G. Rectum
Mar 1, 2011

Dapper_Swindler posted:

So i am around level 9 and a did a ton of quests for the minutemen and haven't done anything for the main story. should i head to diamond city now? every time i head south i get destroyed by super mutant suicide bombers. Also can i raise my SPECIALS at all?

suiciders are chumps, Jet > VATS

http://shermanikk.net/images/fo4/hello.mp4

Animax
Nov 7, 2015

Kimmalah posted:

It was nice in complicated areas but Clairvoyance had a lot of problems. I remember so many times it would just draw paths that expected me to walk through solid walls (no not secret doors, just walls). I'd save the perk for later personally.
I never had that problem, it worked fine for me, then again i only used it in blackreach for the most part.

Darth Windu
Mar 17, 2009

by Smythe

Fereydun posted:

no really though whats the cowboy build

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


Animax posted:

I never had that problem, it worked fine for me, then again i only used it in blackreach for the most part.

I don't know, it used to lead me in the weirdest directions all the time. But Blackreach is like the one place where you're really meant to wander around for hours.

I've run into very few of the areas of this game are so complicated that it requires spending a perk anyway.

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


pc master race

suck it consoles



from http://imgur.com/a/JfT8p (not mine, im not this autistic)

Sharks Dont Sleep
Mar 4, 2009

In pairing luxury automobiles with large predatory felines we have achieved reality ahead of schedule.
It's weird I've never had an issue with enemy grenades or molotovs and I've just hit level 42, but those loving Super Mutant suiciders were loving annoying as hell and wiped me a bunch. Also the Gunner mercs with Fat Mans. gently caress escorting these stupid BOS scribes that are just walking into mines and aggressively attacking, dude why can't I order you, as a loving Knight Paladin whatever, to sit the gently caress down and let me clear the joint.

Darth Windu
Mar 17, 2009

by Smythe
Any cowboy out there. Hit me up. Looking for cowboy daddy to tell me what good stats are and help me with my long revolver. Not gay just like hanging out with Cowboys and touching big guns. Let me know if you see any good cowboy hats or know what the good cowboy perks are. Like I think gunslinger and rifleman are good cowboy perks because guns and rifles are important to real Cowboys. Not satisfied with the trifold cowboy hat, I need one with. A wide brim. Again I'm not gay I just want cowboy friends to hang out with and jerk off mutually, not gay though.

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

Theta Zero posted:

You can target your own grenades in VATS if that makes a difference.

holyshit

Mr Scumbag
Jun 6, 2007

You're a fucking cocksucker, Jonathan
Is there any way to kill Paladin Danse? Dude's a loving jackass.

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


Mr Scumbag posted:

Is there any way to kill Paladin Danse? Dude's a loving jackass.

yea

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GhostDog
Jul 30, 2003

Always see everything.

Darth Windu posted:

Any cowboy out there. Hit me up. Looking for cowboy daddy to tell me what good stats are and help me with my long revolver. Not gay just like hanging out with Cowboys and touching big guns.

I like to hold guns together and shot at the same time. I call it Twin Barrel.

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