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God, intimidation (and the other variants) is such a sub-optimal investment. Even with 13 effective charisma it rarely works, even on the lower-level enemies that qualify for it. In order to make use of the incitement you have to get in close, exposing yourself to enemy fire. But the real kick in the teeth is that you don't get any experience for the enemies that your subverted foes kill. 
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Soulex posted:I barely use cola, beer, wine and spirits. Or drugs. Saving them until I have enough to turn into a junkie with my perks. Just do everything all the time. You're not going to run out of drugs. Trust me. And if you do, you can go craft more, better drugs.
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Nov 19, 2015 21:45
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Oh hey whats this swan thing in the middle of a pond OH loving poo poo ITS A GIANT rear end SUPERMUTANT!!!!!
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Nov 19, 2015 21:49
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twistedmentat posted:Oh hey whats this swan thing in the middle of a pond OH loving poo poo ITS A GIANT rear end SUPERMUTANT!!!!! Oh man, first time I ran into him I ran around like a little girl making GBS threads out frag mines and grenades. Strategy paid off.
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Nov 19, 2015 21:52
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Soulex posted:Perfect! I love it! Haha the idiot savant triggered at the perfect time there. I thought you'd edited that sound effect in or something.
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Nov 19, 2015 21:52
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Hahaha did dogmeat just get sent into orbit by that car blowing at the end?
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Nov 19, 2015 21:54
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Soulex posted:I barely use cola, beer, wine and spirits. Or drugs. Saving them until I have enough to turn into a junkie with my perks. I barely touch drugs except as an emergency, but I drank a ton of booze cheesing up Cait's favor.
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Nov 19, 2015 21:54
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FreelanceSocialist posted:Oh man, first time I ran into him I ran around like a little girl making GBS threads out frag mines and grenades. Strategy paid off. I had an AR that had the double shot bonus, and tore Swan down in a rain of lead 
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Nov 19, 2015 22:01
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FreelanceSocialist posted:Hahaha did dogmeat just get sent into orbit by that car blowing at the end? His home planet needed him.
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Nov 19, 2015 22:02
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That's really why I don't do it. I don't want the addictions. Gonna wait till party boy or something. Edit: post weirded out. Apparently reply = edit. Didn't notice the dog eat thing until you pointed it out. Soulex fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Nov 19, 2015 |
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Nov 19, 2015 22:02
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FreelanceSocialist posted:Oh man, first time I ran into him I ran around like a little girl making GBS threads out frag mines and grenades. Strategy paid off. Wounding 10mm fulled upgraded. 37 damage per hit and the wounding seems to stack. I never use drugs no booze because I don't want to have to deal with addictions. I think it comes from getting addicted to them in FO2 and never being able to find more mentats or buffout to sate my addiction.
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Nov 19, 2015 22:02
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twistedmentat posted:Wounding 10mm fulled upgraded. 37 damage per hit and the wounding seems to stack. Really addiction's not that bad, there are at least three items that remove all addictions and then doctors can do it for cheap. My problem with it is I'm usually rolling with someone who dislikes drugs, though that's becoming less of an issue as I steadily max 'em out.
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Nov 19, 2015 22:08
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twistedmentat posted:Oh hey whats this swan thing in the middle of a pond OH loving poo poo ITS A GIANT rear end SUPERMUTANT!!!!! I was around level 55 at the time I ran into him and just blew him away in a couple of shots with a gauss rifle. I was a lot more scared of the behemoth I ran into at like, level 9 with just a piddly 10mm to fend it off with.
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Nov 19, 2015 22:10
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Soulex posted:Perfect! I love it! Dogmeat has a hard life 
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Nov 19, 2015 22:15
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twistedmentat posted:Oh hey whats this swan thing in the middle of a pond OH loving poo poo ITS A GIANT rear end SUPERMUTANT!!!!! You need to kill the swan so you can get the power fist and punch everything in the wasteland to death
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Nov 19, 2015 22:24
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Internet Kraken posted:Dogmeat has a hard life I love him to death, but sometimes things need to be done. This includes bashing him when he doesn't get the hint to get the gently caress out of the goddamn doorway so I can move.
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Nov 19, 2015 22:42
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So is there a bug where all your places don't seem to have enough defense despite having like, 40 points in the settlement? Or am I missing something.
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twistedmentat posted:I never use drugs no booze because I don't want to have to deal with addictions. I think it comes from getting addicted to them in FO2 and never being able to find more mentats or buffout to sate my addiction.
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Nov 19, 2015 22:45
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My six crank junkie's laser musket does dirty, dirty things to supermutants, I'm currently addicted to three drugs.
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Assfingeringlair posted:Looking at starting a sneaky melee/explosives character how much str did you go in for at the beginning? I think starting high agi and luck is the way to start. I did this. Strength isn't that important. What you really need is blitz. I think I started with: 4 Str for blacksmith 4 (+Concorde bobble head) Per for explosives 1 end 1 int 9 agi for blitz 5 luck for idiot savant Then dumped the rest into charisma to work up to local leader, although I think if I did it again I'd just leave charisma for more luck. The only issue is most of the good grenades need science to craft. It works super well. The serrated switchblade shreds early level ghouls and raiders, and once I found a sledgehammer I just started silently teleporting and crushing heads everywhere. And when I get stuck in the open just take a bunch of psycho and jet and go nuts. At one point I think some combination of drugs and food glitched out and my super sledge was reporting nearly 1000 damage in the inventory screen.
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Nov 19, 2015 22:58
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Strudel Man posted:One of the legendary weapon effects is "junkie," which gives more damage the more addictions you have. If I happen to find a decent one, I'm considering getting addicted to absolutely everything possible, just to see how significant that effect is. 
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Nov 19, 2015 23:07
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Seeing everyone posting about how cool melee/unarmed is with drugs, it's making me want to start over with one of those builds. I'm like all CHA INT right now and it's fun to shoot mans but i think teleporting ninja sounds a lot more fun.
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I wonder what the magnitude of that mod is. I would find it hard to believe that "shoots an additional projectile" isn't the best in most situations. As far as I can tell it just doubles the damage, there's no additional recoil or muzzle climb.
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Loose Ifer posted:Seeing everyone posting about how cool melee/unarmed is with drugs, it's making me want to start over with one of those builds. I'm like all CHA INT right now and it's fun to shoot mans but i think teleporting ninja sounds a lot more fun. I'm on the fence about a new character too. I mean, sure I can just switch over eventually. But questing like that seems so fun.
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Soulex posted:I'm on the fence about a new character too. I mean, sure I can just switch over eventually. But questing like that seems so fun. My current goal is to mainline the main quest to get through the story, then worry about gimmick runs and side quests.
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Strudel Man posted:One of the legendary weapon effects is "junkie," which gives more damage the more addictions you have. If I happen to find a decent one, I'm considering getting addicted to absolutely everything possible, just to see how significant that effect is. Yea i got a hunting rifle with Junkie on it. chunkles posted:You need to kill the swan so you can get the power fist and punch everything in the wasteland to death Oh yea, I don't know if i want to use that or Gorgnak's axe as my melee weapon. Even though I am gun lady, I always have one to fall back on in case. Also to kill rad roaches that aren't worth spending ammo on.
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I got a Fatman, I gave it a MIRV mod, and it also shoots another projectile. Unfortunately the dropoff for the ammo is very very short, and what ends up happening is instead of 2 nukes being shot out, about 8? or so get shot out and about 100 feet away it drops to the ground. You can barely shoot it without blowing yourself up.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I got a Fatman, I gave it a MIRV mod, and it also shoots another projectile. Combine it with a Power Armor jetpack and rain death from above.
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Rolled a punchmans character named Joan Cena. Went into the Kendall hospital at level 4 and punched the skull deathclaw down there to death after taking all of the drugs I had and doing a lot of panic'd running around waiting for vats to refill to do more blitzing. Blitz is the coolest.
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Ooh. You buy that somewhere, or did you luck out on a legendary and rename it?
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Holy poo poo does the Institute look rad or what? Do ALL of the endings besides the Institute one involve blowing it up? I don't wanna.  But I also don't want to abandon the Minutemen...
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Strudel Man posted:Ooh. You buy that somewhere, or did you luck out on a legendary and rename it? Found and renamed, unfortunately.
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Empress Theonora posted:Holy poo poo does the Institute look rad or what? Do ALL of the endings besides the Institute one involve blowing it up? I don't wanna. I was apprehensive about the institute until I learned every prop there is loaded with aluminum/fiber optics. The only way they could be more perfect is if they had a bunch of adhesives.
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I haven't really felt a need for the drugs since the early game. Apparently a few random pieces of combat armor strapped over a jumpsuit makes you weirdly bulletproof. I started just keeping a few of everything on me and stuffing the rest in storage - I don't even know how much I have now. Enough for Mama Murphy to have one hell of a party.CommissarMega posted:I had an AR that had the double shot bonus, and tore Swan down in a rain of lead Like everything else, Swan didn't live long against a bleed-damage shotgun. I was on my way to Trinity Tower and I just kind of made a brief detour to kill him because I'd heard everyone talking about this thing for so long.
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Hm. Something seems to be interfering with the intimidation perk - I used it in power armor before, but since I put on an Atom Cats set with a targeting helmet, even a successful intimidation just makes the enemy hesitate for a moment before opening fire again. I suspect it's the targeting mod, but I haven't had a chance to take it off and test yet. edit: Yeah, looks like it's the targeting mod. I removed it, and intimidation is working properly again. Strudel Man fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Nov 20, 2015 |
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Empress Theonora posted:Holy poo poo does the Institute look rad or what? Do ALL of the endings besides the Institute one involve blowing it up? I don't wanna. Get to the end, never finish the game. best ending.
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Tenzarin posted:Get to the end, never finish the game. best ending. I'm tempted to, to be honest. This game is at its best when it's offering you tons of possibilities, and finishing the main storyline would cut off some of those. I didn't get around to "finishing" Skyrim until a couple of months ago.
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Empress Theonora posted:Holy poo poo does the Institute look rad or what? Do ALL of the endings besides the Institute one involve blowing it up? I don't wanna. You don't have to. There's a "Minutemen" ending, but it's basically just the Yes Man route/default ending for people who gently caress all the other stories up or fail to initiate them. I'm pretty sure the Institute, Railroad, and Brotherhood of Steel endings never force you to attack the Minutemen or cause them to go hostile, just eliminate each of the other two.
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Empress Theonora posted:I'm tempted to, to be honest. This game is at its best when it's offering you tons of possibilities, and finishing the main storyline would cut off some of those. The end is when you have to kill off 66% of the game. At most these are just repeatable quest hubs, but if you come back just to shoot poo poo why limit yourself when what opens after you beat it is like 1 dialogue.
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