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AceRimmer posted:Should make things more fun for whoever writes the cohesive timeline. I predict a large number of real-world winners losing by ridiculously huge margins and then somehow getting the nomination for President next time around. Also highly popular presidents suddenly deciding not to pursue a second term for no apparent reason. This is going to be fun. e: while i'm at the top of the page rule britannia, we've got a King, he's got a crown and nearly a couple of his marbles left, what have you guys got huh
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This is awesome and I look forward to voting in this, and volunteer my efforts to writing speculative timelines based on the wacky outcomes. I've wanted to run a forum game/LP (wherein posters adopt the role of statesmen or states pre-1789 constitution) for a long time, so this'll have to do for now. And the ultimate outcome of goons voting in radical abolitionists every election will be the early secession of the south, and conflict between the two (or more) new countries, without a doubt.
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# ? Nov 20, 2015 07:28 |
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I can't wait until we vote out FDR and as a result lose the second world war
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# ? Nov 20, 2015 07:38 |
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fade5 posted:So how long until the election happens? The (white, male, landowning) people are eager to see who leads this new country. I think he already gave up, which is for the best probably, because at this rate this project won't be even close to finished by the time the next actual president gets sworn in. it will take almost two months even if he does one election every day.
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# ? Nov 20, 2015 07:41 |
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OP said elections would be weekly. That doesn’t quite work with fifty‐six elections to cover and slightly less than a year to do it, but it’s close.Angepain posted:I predict a large number of real-world winners losing by ridiculously huge margins and then somehow getting the nomination for President next time around. Also highly popular presidents suddenly deciding not to pursue a second term for no apparent reason. This is going to be fun. I propose that the rule for eligibility (currently .05% of national vote) should be amended to allow fictional incumbents to be elected for a second term.
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# ? Nov 20, 2015 07:51 |
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Washington/Harrison. Washington needs to be elected, we can't risk the union being destroyed this soon. Quite frankly, I'd vote for Alexander Hamilton as VP if he were an option, but I can't give a vote to Adams or Jay as long as we have the possibility of not having Washington in charge. He's the type of person that we need to lead us, and his moderation will be a great way ensure stability. It also can't be stressed enough that we can't have someone who will take power. Washington is a reluctant man, and he'll not keep the power so long to make him a ruler instead of a leader.
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# ? Nov 20, 2015 08:39 |
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If JFK isn't president, who gets assassinated?
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# ? Nov 20, 2015 08:41 |
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memy posted:If JFK isn't president, who gets assassinated? Richard Nixon
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# ? Nov 20, 2015 08:43 |
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There's no way that President Eugene Debs doesn't get assassinated.
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# ? Nov 20, 2015 08:43 |
President Fredrick Douglas will reconquer the lost states of the southern confederacy, calling it now
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# ? Nov 20, 2015 08:48 |
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Ralp posted:I think he already gave up, which is for the best probably, because at this rate this project won't be even close to finished by the time the next actual president gets sworn in. Nah, I am still here. Weekdays are just busy for me and there isn't a lot I can post. The current schedule is still once a week. I may accelerate these early elections if people are getting edgy. I will probably do a write-up on the Anti-Federalists or the Critical Period when I get off from work. QuoProQuid has issued a correction as of 12:46 on Nov 20, 2015 |
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Platystemon posted:I propose that the rule for eligibility (currently .05% of national vote) should be amended to allow fictional incumbents to be elected for a second term. I disagree, the more nonsensical this ends up being the better.
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# ? Nov 20, 2015 14:26 |
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Angepain posted:I disagree, the more nonsensical this ends up being the better. Exactly, let Adams win for 150 years. Adams corpse for pres
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RagnarokAngel posted:Exactly, let Adams win for 150 years. Adams corpse for pres I look forward to the 100 year reign of Eugene V Debs 1900-2000, best century ever
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# ? Nov 20, 2015 15:39 |
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can we vote for washington as king
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# ? Nov 20, 2015 20:47 |
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washington has no intention of being king so yes
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# ? Nov 20, 2015 20:50 |
(Re)Elect Jay/Adams 1792 I have to start campaigning early since the polls will open this weekend.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 00:10 |
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memy posted:I can't wait until we vote out FDR and as a result lose the second world war
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 08:04 |
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The real reason to not vote FDR is Norman Thomas.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 09:57 |
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Lycus posted:There's no way that President Eugene Debs doesn't get assassinated. He might get assassinated, though I predict him to hold office for about a quarter of a century first.
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 12:18 |
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Polls for the election of 1788-89 will close at 8:00 AM EST tomorrow. If you are, for whatever reason, holding back your vote, now would be the time to use it. The election of 1792 will be posted at the same time, so prepare yourself for a "struggle between the Treasury department and the republican interest." Jefferson and Hamilton are already organizing their forces. Sheng-ji Yang posted:can we vote for washington as king Sorry, but "SA Decides: The Newburgh Conspiracy of 1783" has already passed. QuoProQuid has issued a correction as of 14:38 on Nov 21, 2015 |
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In new in this wild western wasteland called America, who should I vote for?
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 18:06 |
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When do we get to elect George Clinton as President for Life? America wasn't quite funky enough in its youth imo
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# ? Nov 21, 2015 18:55 |
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Oiled and Ready posted:so are these elections considered canon for future elections or do we reset each time? This impacts my vote. I feel like if we're carrying the canon forward I need Washington but if we aren't I got to go with Jay. when a president enters the timestream, time begins to correct itself
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ELECTION RESULTS: 1788 Thank you all for voting in the first election of this new republic’s history. In a surprise upset, John Adams has been elected the first President of the United States. Serving as his Vice President is the equally surprised John Jay. General Washington wishes the best of luck to both these men and has happily retired to his estate at Mount Vernon. His Highness, John Adams, President of the United States, and Protector of Their Liberties looks forward to his next four years in office. RESULTS BREAKDOWN Most popular candidates: 1. John Adams – 104 votes (72.7%) 2. John Jay 90 votes (62.9%) 3. George Washington – 68 votes (47.6%) 4. John Rutledge – 15 votes (10.5%) 5. Robert Harrison 10 votes (7%)* Most popular tickets: 1. John Adams / John Jay – 59 votes 2. George Washington / John Adams – 41 votes 3. George Washington / John Jay – 22 votes 4. John Jay / John Rutledge – 6 votes 5. Robert Harrison / John Rutledge – 4 votes 6. George Washington / John Rutledge – 3 votes 7. George Washington / Robert Harrison – 2 votes 8. John Adams / Robert Harrison – 2 votes 9. John Jay / Robert Harrison – 2 votes 10. John Adams / John Rutledge – 1 vote * Note: You will notice that there is an odd number of votes listed above. When originally putting together the survey, I forgot to insert a data validation and submitted a test vote for three men (Washington, Adams, and Harrison). QuoProQuid has issued a correction as of 14:43 on Nov 22, 2015 |
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ELECTION OF 1792 Click here to vote in the Election of 1792! Candidates: Sixteen years after the signing of the Declaration of Independence, the United States has begun to stabilize. Though Washington’s Administration has not been easy, he has succeeded in ending the direst threats to America’s independence and establishing precedent for future presidents. With the advice of his Secretary of the Treasury, Alexander Hamilton, Washington has established a national bank and had the national government take on state war debts. Though many former Anti-Federalists see these acts as dangerous steps toward tyranny, American bonds are now considered safe in European markets. In New York and Philadelphia, these programs have been so successful that stock markets have formed. In other domestic affairs, Washington personally put down a revolt by angry veterans and farmers who were protesting a tax on Whiskey. He has also strengthened the federal judiciary. In foreign affairs, Washington has asserted executive control over treaty negotiations to avoid foreign entanglement. Though beloved in France, so much so that Washington was sent the Key to the Bastille, Washington is deeply suspicious of the ongoing revolution in France. He has limited American support of the new French government, only helping the French put down the Haitian Revolution to reduce the country’s debt. Washington is also increasingly concerned about the British. Despite promising to recognize American sovereignty in the Treaty of Paris, British forces remain in their forts and outposts around the Great Lakes. There are also growing reports of British forces kidnapping American sailors. Washington does not believe the country can withstand another major war and hopes to resolve both these issues peacefully. Though he is expected to be re-elected, Washington’s Vice President is likely to be seen as a referendum on both these issues. The Election of 1792 is also notable for being the first election with partisan undertones. Despite Washington’s pleas for civility, Hamilton and Jefferson are establishing loose political networks to support their policy preferences. For Hamilton, he hopes to build a centralized and fiscally sound union capable of co-existing with European powers. For Jefferson, he hopes to smash the tyrannical Treasury in favor of a decentralized, expansionist confederation where every man can own a plot of land. Background: George Washington
John Adams
George Clinton
Thomas Jefferson
Aaron Burr
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If Washington didn’t want to be re‐elected, he should have encouraged another pro‐federal politician to run.
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Platystemon posted:If Washington didn’t want to be re‐elected, he should have encouraged another pro‐federal politician to run. The Federalist argument is, "Oh God, Washington, please run. You are the only man whose election won't risk a massive civil war and British conquest of our new republic. Also, Hamilton has these great The Democratic-Republican argument is, "Yes, you are completely right. The old general is probably on the verge of senility and is being manipulated by the monarchist Adams and the bastard, immigrant Hamilton. However, not electing him risks a massive civil war and British conquest. You can guarantee that once we get in office, we'll make sure that President Washington is listening to the right people, people who won't try to infringe on individual liberties, like a man's right to own a slave." QuoProQuid has issued a correction as of 15:26 on Nov 22, 2015 |
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I think Washington was more aligned with the Federalists than either side wanted to publicly admit. Federalists downplayed his support because he was more valuable to them as an ostensibly neutral candidate. Democratic‐Republicans would have liked to call out Washington, but they knew that he was too popular and that any direct attack would backfire. Angling for influence via the vice presidency isn’t a strong play, but it’s all they could do with Washington in the field. It’s an interesting question as to what the Democratic‐Republicans could have accomplished had they won the vice presidency. I don’t know that it would have changed much during Washington’s presidency, the VP having little real power, and Washington having formidable political capital, but it might well have upset John Adam’s presidential ambitions.
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from where I stand as a total plebeian and idiot, Aaron Burr kind of owns. Burr-Adams '92
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# ? Nov 22, 2015 17:13 |
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i want to vote for hamilton! oh well. im going to keep being a partisan federalist until the hartford convention, and also voting in a stubbornly ahistorical manner adams/washington, in that order
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# ? Nov 22, 2015 17:33 |
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George Clinton! Let's conquer Canada and make Congress into a Parliament Funkadelic.
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# ? Nov 22, 2015 17:45 |
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While Adams and Burr are entertaining, sure, what I find even more entertaining is the possibility of establishing an even earlier Clinton dynasty. Is this Clinton related to our soon to be supreme overlord? Well, no, given that Slick Willie's surname comes from his stepdad! However, think of the possibilities. The Roosevelts, Kennedys, and Bushes all establish themselves much later. We can make an American autocracy where power is even more inheritable than it is today!
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Clinton/Burr to keep the dastardly federal government under control while also kicking British rear end.
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Octatonic posted:While Adams and Burr are entertaining, sure, what I find even more entertaining is the possibility of establishing an even earlier Clinton dynasty. Is this Clinton related to our soon to be supreme overlord? Well, no, given that Slick Willie's surname comes from his stepdad! However, think of the possibilities. The Roosevelts, Kennedys, and Bushes all establish themselves much later. We can make an American autocracy where power is even more inheritable than it is today! Through his election, John Adams probably got his wish of making the President's title, "His Highness, the President of the United States, and Protector of Their Liberties," which seems fitting for an autocratic pseudo-monarchy.
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# ? Nov 22, 2015 18:00 |
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If Burr gets anything less than 100% of the vote, I'll be very angry.
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# ? Nov 22, 2015 18:03 |
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A Neurotic Jew posted:from where I stand as a total plebeian and idiot, Aaron Burr kind of owns. agreed also i vote for total alt history america, but with mostly the same candidates in every election.
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QuoProQuid posted:Through his election, John Adams probably got his wish of making the President's title, "His Highness, the President of the United States, and Protector of Their Liberties," which seems fitting for an autocratic pseudo-monarchy. That's pretty baller. It's up there with the best of euphemistic country names and leadership titles IMO.
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There absolutely needs to be a strong central government, so the Democratic Republicans can all go suck it. Aaron Burr is sweet, but not the hero we need right now--we really need to establish John Adams owns bones, but I don't think he has the political clout right now to effectively get his policies passed. Washington to hold the union together, Adams to be waiting in the wings to step in and keep things going.
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Octatonic posted:While Adams and Burr are entertaining, sure, what I find even more entertaining is the possibility of establishing an even earlier Clinton dynasty. Is this Clinton related to our soon to be supreme overlord? Well, no, given that Slick Willie's surname comes from his stepdad! However, think of the possibilities. The Roosevelts, Kennedys, and Bushes all establish themselves much later. We can make an American autocracy where power is even more inheritable than it is today! I hate to break it to you but we don't need to go alt history to get an early American dynasty started.
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