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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:Yo have you seen marlona sky cause I mean there's one example of insane person screaming at max volume forever Yeah there's some pretty unbalanced people, mostly on FHC, but if you filter out a couple of loud wailers the general consensus is more just "lol" and not whatever it is some people seem to think they're doing. The timer juke was legitimately funny, and you can't really saying they're over-egging it given there's a (frankly doomed) book in plans which will no-doubt make a large point out of sov-game fuckery that held us on in Fountain. If the Imperium ~narrative~ is, as it seems to be, some form of "they're all hating us and plotting and what not" then just urgh. Because the general tone I get from the rest of the game is more akin to "post fozziesov we may as well just leave them in their ivory tower". The viceroys plan is so devious because, assuming it works, it directly counters that mode of operation.
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Xolve posted:drat, didn't think it'd be Querns. Dead Sea status. i must be e-famous on the internets now because people who i have no idea who the gently caress they are know my name
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Nov 23, 2015 14:06
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Glory of Arioch posted:i must be e-famous on the internets now because people who i have no idea who the gently caress they are know my name You just told us. You're Joe Rogan with a buttplug
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Nov 23, 2015 14:25
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You can literally post a thread "Goons are poopoo heads!" and get 200+ upward direction arrows right now haha. The Imperium hate is so strong on that site.
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Nov 23, 2015 14:25
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Fun fact, or perhaps observation, about rhubarb: For all of the "vegetables" which are "really fruits," such as tomato and cucumber, rhubarb is the only vegetable food which gets served as a fruit which is not actually a fruit, at least as far as I have been able to identify.  Plus rhubarb leaf is a purgative from early modern medicine 
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Nov 23, 2015 14:37
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Glory of Arioch posted:eh you gotta look a little deeper Nah, what you are describing would fit FHC pretty well, especially the Seraph IX/Marlona types. But they get laughed at even more by reddit than we do on the rare occasions that they condescend to post there. Edit: to address your other point more obviously, the problem for r/eve is not that they think we are invincible - we have grown so large that we literally are at this point - but that they somehow believe that with the right combination of leaders they could band together and take us down. The myth persists that imperium line members are inferior to open-recruiting pubstar ones, whereas the opposite is very probably true for all but a few groups. Endie fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Nov 23, 2015 |
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Nov 23, 2015 14:44
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Glory of Arioch posted:i liked his angry russian voice He was so stereotypically Russian on the Metashow. "They are leetle vagina-boys"
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Nov 23, 2015 14:50
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CommonShore posted:Plus rhubarb leaf is a purgative from early modern medicine your posts are the product of a purgative
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Nov 23, 2015 14:50
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Endie posted:your posts are the product of a purgative  I just didn't want to miss out on rhubarbchat.
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Nov 23, 2015 14:58
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Bigbillthaboss posted:You can literally post a thread "Goons are poopoo heads!" and get 200+ upward direction arrows right now haha. The Imperium hate is so strong on that site. Outside of Imperium that's a fairly common attitude to have. It's not confined to reddit, it just so happens that's where everyone congregates as the official forums are utter shite.
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Khablam posted:If the Imperium ~narrative~ is, as it seems to be, some form of "they're all hating us and plotting and what not" then just urgh. Because the general tone I get from the rest of the game is more akin to "post fozziesov we may as well just leave them in their ivory tower". But that tone doesn't really fit reality. You have people who are no poo poo serious posting that MoA is a legit threat. You have people claiming that we are deliberately going after PH and other newbie corps to kill the game. There's a rather lot of hat gon going on, and it's not just the pubstar posters from FHC. I don't even read FHC, mostly just browsing reddit when I get real bored at work. Sure, you're right in some points. The narrative that the enemies hated the book idea because of mittens, not because lol 30k for publishing costs. And yea, the timer thing was funny.
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Nov 23, 2015 15:07
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Endie posted:Seraph IX/Marlona types
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CommonShore posted:Fun fact, or perhaps observation, about rhubarb: eh parsnips and carrots also end up as the Sweet Thing in a number of baked goods
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Glory of Arioch posted:eh parsnips and carrots also end up as the Sweet Thing in a number of baked goods Don't forget sweet potatoes
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And yet you've never put carrot compote on your ice cream
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Nov 23, 2015 15:16
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ChickenWing posted:And yet you've never put carrot compote on your ice cream i wouldn't put pureed durian on my ice cream either but it's a fruit
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Nov 23, 2015 15:17
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Glory of Arioch posted:i wouldn't put pureed durian on my ice cream either but it's a fruit A durian is a fruit and therefore not relevant to the point, that being (in case you forgot) CommonShore posted:rhubarb is the only vegetable food which gets served as a fruit which is not actually a fruit, at least as far as I have been able to identify.
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Nov 23, 2015 15:20
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Digital Ebola posted:Space has no answers for you, there's nothing for you to Xolve there, I suggest a new hobby, one that doesn't run on stomach acid and bad decisions. Says the guy that Doxxs people in a vain attempt to make up for losing arguments,  .Glory of Arioch posted:
Vyst offered, I said yes. Man, getting in was hard.
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Nov 23, 2015 15:21
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So will this colonial governorship be open to a lot of people? Like can I oversee an area if I put in the work? Also will governors get a commission for their region?
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Nov 23, 2015 15:22
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Bigbillthaboss posted:So will this colonial governorship be open to a lot of people? Like can I oversee an area if I put in the work? Also will governors get a commission for their region? yep on all counts
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Nov 23, 2015 15:22
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Glory of Arioch posted:yep on all counts So in theory as much as I put in I will get out I.E. If I am willing to reimburse people for dread losses out of my commission people would more likely be willing to use capitals in efforts to moderate the region I oversee? I imagine if I start FCing it would probably help the case as well. But basically if you want your region controlled then you got to be willing to open the wallet for reimbursement and incentives for people to help. (Forgot if that last sentence was a question or statement.)
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ChickenWing posted:And yet you've never put carrot compote on your ice cream I have had several delicious carrot cakes.
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Rhubarbtalk reminded me of rhubard compote that my mother used to make when I was a kid. I want in on that again, there are fond memories of that weird vegetable thing.
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Glory of Arioch posted:yep on all counts I can fill in some of the gaps from context but do we have an actual explanation anywhere of what this viceroy concept actually involves?
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Nov 23, 2015 15:33
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Bigbillthaboss posted:So in theory as much as I put in I will get out I.E. If I am willing to reimburse people for dread losses out of my commission people would more likely be willing to use capitals in efforts to moderate the region I oversee? I imagine if I start FCing it would probably help the case as well. But basically if you want your region controlled then you got to be willing to open the wallet for reimbursement and incentives for people to help. (Forgot if that last sentence was a question or statement.) well i think the enforcement angle would be mostly covered by alliance SRP, you wouldn't really need to cajole anyone to burn things for you with your fight money the general idea is that the alliance does nothing but burn structures and moons, the viceroy's job is to squeeze vassals as hard as they can but not actually make them go "gently caress this" and quit and if "gently caress this" happens it's not a big deal either
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Helicon One posted:I can fill in some of the gaps from context but do we have an actual explanation anywhere of what this viceroy concept actually involves? the tl;dr is that all of nullsec becomes vassals to us occupants keep sov and keep moons as long as they pay tribute to us in return we build roads and do nice things and, most crucially, don't send reavers or rear end in a top hat squad or EG to their poo poo to burn it down
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Glory of Arioch posted:well i think the enforcement angle would be mostly covered by alliance SRP, you wouldn't really need to cajole anyone to burn things for you with your fight money But if you are willing to throw your personal earned isk on top of SRP I'm sure people are willing to burn poo poo a little quicker. Offer bounties for POSs and pay Isk/hour to individuals using dreads and carriers to just knock poo poo over (higher than current ratting rates) with full capital reimbursement I'm sure people would be willing to help "take a bat to the knee caps".
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Bigbillthaboss posted:But if you are willing to throw your personal earned isk on top of SRP I'm sure people are willing to burn poo poo a little quicker. Offer bounties for POSs and pay Isk/hour to individuals using dreads and carriers to just knock poo poo over (higher than current ratting rates) with full capital reimbursement I'm sure people would be willing to help "take a bat to the knee caps". yeah, you could probably do that, just seems a little unnecessary when the alliance is willing to do it for free, eventually
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Helicon One posted:I can fill in some of the gaps from context but do we have an actual explanation anywhere of what this viceroy concept actually involves? It sounded like it was still very much at the concept stage but probably pretty much what you imagine: turn up in a region with tax-gatherers, demand rent, send imperium fleets to entosis/siege the ones who don't pay up, rinse, repeat. It relies on there being no viable coalition of people who will turn up for the timers*, but given that the defenders will be hapless neutrals and groups of 300 guys with no doctrines, it's pretty unlikely that we'll meet any vast and organised coalitions willing to make it tricky. I suspect that sequential episodes of blueballs will prove a problem and lead to a few underpowered fleets being bombed or ganked or something but it's content of a sort and it should last a while at least. *Edit: enough to make it necessary to do serious business pings and send large numbers who can then be consistently blueballed. We have trouble with Pure Blind grinding people down, after all. Endie fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Nov 23, 2015 |
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Will tribute involve protection or is it straight extortion money
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Hey actual eve-related post instead of shitpost. Do we have any details on what's happening with reactions and citadels yet? Like, I'm assuming that they'll be run in medium cits, but do we know if that transition will be happening in The Citadel Patch, how that transition will be managed, and what a medium citadel will cost?
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Frozenpussy posted:Will tribute involve protection or is it straight extortion money straight extortion money the central tenet of the whole idea is that we never build a single pos or hold a single system outside our core if it involves anyone doing anything but shooting or entosising a thing, it's not allowed in the plan if a vassal dies to a third party, oh well, the viceroy contacts the victors and gives them the xerxes speech
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CommonShore posted:Hey actual eve-related post instead of shitpost. the reaction change will definitely not be happening in the citadel patch we don't know what they plan to do with reactions, but look for it probably pretty closely aligned with any changes to moon goo harvesting (which will most likely be transforming it from passive to active harvest)
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Numismancer posted:It has amounted to something incredibly cool - when Sion and I realized we'd been too drat nice and how good it felt to be ~bad~ again (bad, in this context, means not rolling over and dying and zealously protecting our community interests by giving bitches the finger) we had a few beers and came up with the viceroyalties. Aw yeah, going to get to be a stormtrooper. Please assign special agent Xenuria to the important task of getting CCP to make us jackboots, TIA
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if ccp gave me a heapin helpin of my own druthers, reactions would become a separate RAM activity with a new set of slots that characters train, and a separate industry cost index that way you don't have to micromanage a bunch of stupid structures that do nothing but tick over an integer in the database every hour, you just start a bunch of 30d jobs then spin ships and make dick jokes the rest of the time
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Glory of Arioch posted:the reaction change will definitely not be happening in the citadel patch Ok cool. So we're going to have a reasonably long era of side-by-side pos and citadel industry. Good. Active harvest moongoo sounds like bullshit though. If I wasn't at work I'd probably wake up in gs_isk right now to discuss it. Glory of Arioch posted:if ccp gave me a heapin helpin of my own druthers, reactions would become a separate RAM activity with a new set of slots that characters train, and a separate industry cost index That'd work for me. I like how reactions are partly balanced by possessing space real estate, but when it comes down to it we're basically just running industry jobs, right?
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CommonShore posted:Ok cool. So we're going to have a reasonably long era of side-by-side pos and citadel industry. Good. yeah, they have a LOT of work to do before they remove pos remove pos you are the worst structure their goal right now is to fast track outpost removal since outposts do a lot fewer things, it's a much lower hanging bit of fruit this means they'll prioritize getting research, manufacturing, and reprocessing structures out first, leaving all the pos-specific stuff for later
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CommonShore posted:That'd work for me. I like how reactions are partly balanced by possessing space real estate, but when it comes down to it we're basically just running industry jobs, right? essentially also the cost index thing means that systems like YA0 and JU- will be hellscapes for actually doing reactions, which will encourage folks to build their own little citadel on the prairie to do reactions so the basic concept of having to own space real estate will still exist, just with a softer form of encouragement
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Xolve posted:Says the guy that Doxxs people in a vain attempt to make up for losing arguments, Xolve @Xolves Digi still mad I got him banned from somethingawful. #tweetfleet #angry #goons #GrrrPL
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Glory of Arioch posted:essentially Well I'll just keep running my reactions and not worry about it until then, I guess. The worst that could happen is that the price on my outputs will crash due to an announcement right after I bought inputs, and even if that happens I can just set aside some outputs as spec for when the market on advanced materials goes goofy during the transition period.
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