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JT Jag posted:Cruz scares me in a General more than either Trump or Carson, because while he's a slimy piece of poo poo with the most punchable face in the world he's smart and knows how to work the system. He doesn't look very presidential either what with that marshmallow face. Sort of the opposite of Warren Harding.
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computer parts posted:There's not much proof he can actually work with people, which is what "work the system" usually means. Not anymore, just change "people" to virtual interaction with fanatic crowd.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i doubt it, If they were wearing tac-gear and had guns on them, it show premeditation. they were looking to start poo poo and justify shooting a bunch "animals". these dudes will get prison time. Ask any gun owner if wearing tac gear and carrying a gun is indicative of A) Premeditation or B) Exercising your constitutional rights The answer may not surprise you.
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I don't think Cruz really knows how to work the system out of very specific environments like a court room or college debates. He seems like the type that is blinded by his own hubris and I can't think he shows much respect to people he works with. Add on he is a melty faced creep and I don't think he really has much legs once people actually start seeing him on a daily basis. It's how I felt about Walker; in theory he's solid but once people have to actually look and listen to the man he'll fall apart. He's not on Walker level because he's legitimately smart and Walker is a dullard but I think the end result will be the same. I'm not sure who I fear more, a Trump or Cruz presidency since I think either would be similarly horrible: the flavor will be either theocratic or fiercely racist fascism.
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If my carrying a gun and silently stroking it while I stare at you with dead, vacant eyes frightens you, it isn't me who has the problem! 2ND AMENDMENT DON'T TREAD ON ME WATER THE TREE OF LIBERTY
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DemeaninDemon posted:He doesn't look very presidential either what with that marshmallow face. Sort of the opposite of Warren Harding.  
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Luigi Thirty posted:The final verdict was 5 people shot. The family of the victim who was getting protested for in the first place wants the protests to end so nobody else will get hurt, according to the updated version of that Star-Tribune article. Mission accomplished, sounds like.
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Joementum posted:Cruz can raise money. There's no evidence he's good at much else. Pissing off libs. 
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I dunno. The only real notable thing he's done was loving up Obama and Boehner's lovely Grand Bargain so I thank him for that. 
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Fox Ironic posted:These handful of radicalized groups THEN get EXCLUSIVE media attention, crowding out civil rights protesters in the media narrative and suddenly everybody and their grandmother think BLM is a Black Supremacy Movement that wants to legally privilege Blacks over Whites, which nobody in their right minds has any idea how to respond to without compromising the movement's momentum and suddenly, whelp, everything's gone to poo poo and I don't know what the gently caress is going to happen now. I don't think it's an accident that the fringe of the movement gets the media attention, because it lets the movement as a whole be portrayed as a radicals that are dangerous and are not making good faith demands.
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comes along bort posted:Pissing off libs. I'm actually a big Ted Cruz fan. I figure Texas is guaranteed to send a Republican to the Senate, so if they want to have one who spends his time insulting and funding primaries against his own party while failing to understand the basic rules of the body in which he serves, so much the better.
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Joementum posted:I'm actually a big Ted Cruz fan. I figure Texas is guaranteed to send a Republican to the Senate, so if they want to have one who spends his time insulting and funding primaries against his own party while failing to understand the basic rules of the body in which he serves, so much the better. Same here. Also reminds me how much we're gonna miss Harry Reid when he retires. He's the perfect foil to Ted's bumbling.
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Ted Cruz is easily the best choice for democrats. Nobody in either party likes him, nobody in the country likes him, and he's probably the most conservative candidate so while conservatism can never be failed, Cruz losing by a landslide would be a real satisfying win.
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comes along bort posted:Same here. Also reminds me how much we're gonna miss Harry Reid when he retires. He's the perfect foil to Ted's bumbling. Ted's biggest strength is getting media attention, so he may yet meet his match in Chuck Schumer.
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At the very least he seems to be as much of a pain in the rear end to the RNC as the DNC. Enormous piece of poo poo, though. He's just the worst and everyone who isn't a frothing-at-the-mouth Tea-guzzling lunatic hates him.
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Joementum posted:Ted's biggest strength is getting media attention, so he may yet meet his match in Chuck Schumer. I could definitely imagine Cruz-Schumer clashing generating some significant lightning (still not happy about Schumer, notwithstanding)
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Monkey Fracas posted:At the very least he seems to be as much of a pain in the rear end to the RNC as the DNC. I do like how he has exactly one friend in the Senate.
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ACLU is suing Mike Pence for his Syrian Refugee Denial order.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I do like how he has exactly one friend in the Senate. He's just trying to convert him. It's Mike Lee from Utah right?
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I can't wait to see what the various Republican campaigns will say about the BLM shooting. Here's my best guess: Trump - "Our hearts go out to those affected by this latest tragedy, but this wouldn't have happened if the protesters weren't so violent." Cruz - "<an ear-shattering scream from beyond death itself, which sounds to you almost like a cackle>" Carson - "If people weren't so afraid to say what's on their mind, this wouldn't have happened." Fox News - "The tree of patriotism must be watered with the blood of victims."
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DemeaninDemon posted:He's just trying to convert him. It is indeed. 
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Vox link but here's a transcript of a journalist (well, I guess George Stephanopoulos is only loosely a journo) utter failing to confront Donald Trump on his blatant lies.quote:
They do this so often, they have a list of poo poo they want to get to and so they just say "well, other sources disagree with you, lets move on" instead of saying "Hang on a sec..."  NO DON'T MAKE UP EUPHEMISMS FOR IT HE'S LYING HE'S TELLING LIES
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Right after Paris, there were some links posted somewhere about how ISIS is losing ground and power and is on the brink of collapse, and that they're whining on Twitter about being bombed all the time and that even other terrorist groups are calling them out for being huge babies. I can't, for the life of me, find those links. Does anyone have them?
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SquadronROE posted:I can't wait to see what the various Republican campaigns will say about the BLM shooting. Here's my best guess: Which BLM shooting are you referring to?
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Geoff Peterson posted:I look forward to the media inquires to Kroll, asking for confirmation that his White Supremacist organization was not the one involved in the shooting. What makes you think the media would even consider doing this? Luigi Thirty posted:The final verdict was 5 people shot. The family of the victim who was getting protested for in the first place wants the protests to end so nobody else will get hurt, according to the updated version of that Star-Tribune article. America, land of the Free, home of the The Kingfish posted:That doesn't matter if the shooter felt like he couldn't get away. Yeah it really does. I know you want to defend your fellow JT Jag posted:Cruz scares me in a General more than either Trump or Carson, because while he's a slimy piece of poo poo with the most punchable face in the world he's smart and knows how to work the system. This is factually incorrect though. He's arrogant as gently caress and thinks he knows how to work the system. In reality him "working the system" results in things like Obama being able to get a bunch of confirmations that weren't going to happen otherwise. He's not quite as bad as Carson, but he has the same "I'm really good at X, so I'm also really good at A-W" mindset. Cruz consistently burns bridges within his own party too. The establishment might hate Trump the most but Cruz is second on their shitlist.
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Antti posted:They probably committed the classic blunder of not asking white people whether they mean racism against white people when they say racism is a problem. White people are not monolithic and evil. In general, most Americans truly believe that racism, including against black people, is a bad thing. The word "racism" has successfully become pathologized. The problem comes when connecting instances of racism with the concept of racism, as many people connect it with things like lunch counter sit-ins and water hoses, not the more subtle stuff which they don't encounter regularly. Terminological battles about what exactly counts as racism doesn't help matters. It's also tricky because the word "racist" is so powerfully reviled that it makes it near-impossible for someone to recognize when they themselves have been racist. It'd be like calling yourself a murderer or a rapist, except lacking that comforting fuzz of implausibility. So cognitive biases get redirected full-force into denying that you were racist... which must, of course, mean that what you were doing wasn't racism. Rinse, repeat. Quorum fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Nov 24, 2015 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:America, land of the Free, home of the They're planning to call it once the video that they want released is released. BLM's goals in this case have ostensibly been met by calling attention to it and getting the mayor to agree to let federal investigators examine the shooting.
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There is no proof that they are white supremacists besides twitter hysteria. According to the witnesses from that youtube video, one of them even had a BLM sign. If those witnesses' stories match up with what happened then the shooters were being sketchy but not acting illegally when the protesters attacked them. E: no corroboration that they were wearing armor from the youtube witnesses either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3-XIGJZMEI The Kingfish fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Nov 24, 2015 |
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Kilroy posted:How are you going to eat the rich if you can't shoot them first? Giullotine, of course. We're not savages.
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Bernie ordered fried chicken, dark meat, yams, rice and gravy at his Busy Bee summit with Killer Mike yesterday.
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Quorum posted:White people are not monolithic and evil. In general, most Americans truly believe that racism, including against black people, is a bad thing. The word "racism" has successfully become pathologized. The problem comes when connecting instances of racism with the concept of racism, as many people connect it with things like lunch counter sit-ins and water hoses, not the more subtle stuff which they don't encounter regularly. Terminological battles about what exactly counts as racism doesn't help matters. I generally agree with your points, however, the American public has not really repaid our faith in it in the past on this topic. (NB: It's certainly possible surveys that show white people being more worried about minorities than themselves might not get into the media)
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Joementum posted:Bernie ordered fried chicken, dark meat, yams, rice and gravy at his Busy Bee summit with Killer Mike yesterday. Dark meat. 
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Joementum posted:Bernie ordered fried chicken, dark meat, yams, rice and gravy at his Busy Bee summit with Killer Mike yesterday. This is what I come here for, not some bullshit shooting or plane getting shot down.
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Quorum posted:White people are not monolithic and evil. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/10/08/white-people-think-racial-discrimination-in-america-is-basically-over/ e: f;b
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zoux posted:Vox link but here's a transcript of a journalist (well, I guess George Stephanopoulos is only loosely a journo) utter failing to confront Donald Trump on his blatant lies. It's too late. Falsified racist crime stats and debunked urban legends from fourteen years ago are now "disputed" and "controversial" because news networks are staffed by cowards.
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