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IndianaZoidberg
Aug 21, 2011

My name isnt slick, its Zoidberg. JOHN F***ING ZOIDBERG!

LifeSunDeath posted:

Not sure if posted recently. How does this happen, why isn't there an emergency brake or something?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=be0_1448283084

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e88_1448309337

There is a breaking system and that is what is failing. Once you get something that heavy moving at any reasonable speed, the force it takes to stop it again is enormous!

And even if you could somehow try and jam some part of it with a big peice of steel, all of those parts are moving so fast that ether your giant peice of steel would sheer in half as soon as it touched something, or large parts of the ship would break even more once contact was made.

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FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

LifeSunDeath posted:

Not sure if posted recently. How does this happen, why isn't there an emergency brake or something?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=be0_1448283084

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e88_1448309337

There isn't an emergency break because the whole point of having anchors is that they can be dropped quickly in an emergency. The anchors are, in a way, the ship's emergency break!*

*assuming you've already slowed down a bit.

There are systems in place to keep the anchor from doing that when you don't want it to, you know, go down (chain stoppers, chains and claws, poo poo just having the drat thing clutched in) but obviously these needs to be removed before you can drop the anchor.

The guy running the brake (yellow shirt) let it run out on him, or the brake failed. It's rare, but it happens. As for the chain detaching altogether, that's supposed to happen, having the bitter end let go cleanly really is the best case scenario in that situation. Because nobody wants the chain locker bulkhead to fail instead.

That being said yellow jacket there should have been wearing safety goggles, so there's a nonconformity to write up.

Some of the Sheep
May 25, 2005
POSSIBLY IT WOULD BE SIMPLER IF I ASKED FOR A LIST OF THE HARMLESS CREATURES OF THE AFORESAID CONTINENT?

IndianaZoidberg posted:

There is a breaking system


FrozenVent posted:

There isn't an emergency break

You two retards quoted the correct spelling and still went on to gently caress it up. The system did break though.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Some of the Sheep posted:

You two retards quoted the correct spelling and still went on to gently caress it up. The system did break though.

looks like the breaking system worked just fine tbh

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
If you ever had a chain (or necklace or w/e) and knocked a little bit off the edge of a table or desk you'll notice it gains a lot of kinetic energy really fast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oia-AnIaIK4 starts at 22 seconds

Modest Mao fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Nov 24, 2015

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

Modest Mao posted:

If you ever had a chain (or necklace or w/e) and knocked a little bit off the edge of a table or desk you'll notice it gains a lot of kinetic energy really fast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oia-AnIaIK4 starts at 22 seconds

Trigger warning for portrait mode

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


The brake seemed to apply differently at different parts of the drum. Like he'd get it set right, and half a turn later it'd stop. Then he'd open it up, it'd suddenly be too open, and kablammo

Like it was off centre or not properly round (worn?)

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Some of the Sheep posted:

You two retards quoted the correct spelling and still went on to gently caress it up. The system did break though.

:chillout:

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

simplefish posted:

The brake seemed to apply differently at different parts of the drum. Like he'd get it set right, and half a turn later it'd stop. Then he'd open it up, it'd suddenly be too open, and kablammo

Like it was off centre or not properly round (worn?)

You can see the guy in the yellow jacket opening and closing it - it's that big wheel he's turning.

That's how it's done when you want to lower the anchor on the brake (e.g. Without using power) without having it run away, say if the water is pretty deep or the ship is still moving at a good clip. Then at the end he either waited too long and it took on too much speed, or he opened it too wide and the brake band came off the screw (hey it's been years, gently caress if I can remember all the parts of a windlass) or the brake lining just plain old failed.

The brake on those thing is a big band of metal with a liner that wraps around the drum on one side, in that video looks like it's on the left, and the clutch and motor would be on the side we can't see, I think.

Some of the Sheep posted:

You two retards quoted the correct spelling and still went on to gently caress it up. The system did break though.

It's called autocorrect. gently caress off.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Right, I get that, but at, for example, 24 seconds, yellow jacket turns the brake, it moves and stops without him turning it, then he turns some more.

I have realised that it is the links going over the edge that is causing this on/off effect. Perhaps he was scared of it and ran it too slow so he had to do it practically link by link?

Still, you'd think there'd be a brake amount that allowed it to keep itself turning but stopped it running away

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


I'm sure this has been posted but it's relevant
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b7pRfix_sNg
(Chain starts moving at 3:09)
Note the rust cloud, sparks, and the bad boy whippin' round at the end

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

simplefish posted:

Right, I get that, but at, for example, 24 seconds, yellow jacket turns the brake, it moves and stops without him turning it, then he turns some more.

The chain will often stop on its own in the earlier stages, the whole thing isn't exactly well lubricated, usually. I'm surprised nobody's walking around with a sledge hammer. It's also a friction brake, so it takes a while to stop sometimes.

simplefish posted:

I have realised that it is the links going over the edge that is causing this on/off effect. Perhaps he was scared of it and ran it too slow so he had to do it practically link by link?

Either that or the water is really deep and he didn't want what happened to happen. The on/off effect is the chain getting stuck somewhere - spurling pipe, gipsy, hawsepipe, whatever... It always does that. Then when there's enough chain in the water gravity takes over and it doesn't. That's where they lost control.

simplefish posted:

Still, you'd think there'd be a brake amount that allowed it to keep itself turning but stopped it running away

It's a friction brake, doing that will wear out the liner super fast. Also heat up the joint something fierce, possibly melting poo poo if you do it long enough.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

simplefish posted:

Still, you'd think there'd be a brake amount that allowed it to keep itself turning but stopped it running away

Each additional link that goes overboard adds to the weight of chain hanging off of the brake. So, in order to lower the chain at a constant rate, the brake would have to continuously increase its resistance in proportion to the continuously increasing weight of the chain.

There are painted/marked links in the chain that have a meaning like "if you let the chain go past this link, you are in danger of exceeding the ability of the brake to stop it" and another one that means "if you see this link go by, open the brake and just let the chain go because otherwise your'e probably going to rip the brake right out through the side of the ship, oh and you will die during this process."

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Explosionface posted:

Also, it's really weird for me to see railroad ties made from anything other than wood.

That's sort of a requirement for high-speed rail. As is welding the rail segments together, on standard lines that's typically only done at crossings.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Phanatic posted:

That's sort of a requirement for high-speed rail. As is welding the rail segments together, on standard lines that's typically only done at crossings.

But why would coal and oil need to go that fast? :v:

Tactical Lesbian
Mar 31, 2012

Some of the Sheep posted:

You two retards quoted the correct spelling and still went on to gently caress it up. The system did break though.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

best part is that I misspelled it too initially...puppet master.

Some of the Sheep
May 25, 2005
POSSIBLY IT WOULD BE SIMPLER IF I ASKED FOR A LIST OF THE HARMLESS CREATURES OF THE AFORESAID CONTINENT?

FrozenVent posted:

It's called autocorrect. gently caress off.

:chillout:

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

FrozenVent posted:

It's called autocorrect. gently caress off.

Autocorrect ain't forcing you to hit the post button

Ill Peripheral
Jun 29, 2008

Some of the Sheep posted:

You two retards quoted the correct spelling and still went on to gently caress it up. The system did break though.

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-slDDFNdx8

I mean what did they expect?

I was actually doing an inspection on a stack earlier this week and talking to one of the guys from the chimney company about how you actually get rid of one. I guess explosives are not worth it because of the red tape involved. So he told me they use this machine that sits on the stack and demolishes it inward and rides down. Seemed pretty neat but I wanted to learn more, and sometimes I love google, because "machine that rides down a smokestack to demolish it" gave me this result: http://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/2014/01/14/duke-starts-demolishing-old-smokestacks/4467151/

neat.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

The Mantis isnt terribly exciting to watch though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPmnJ11znOY

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

FrozenVent posted:

It's called autocorrect. gently caress off.

Pretty sure most phone dictionaries contain the word "brake"

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Elendil004 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-slDDFNdx8

I mean what did they expect?

I was actually doing an inspection on a stack earlier this week and talking to one of the guys from the chimney company about how you actually get rid of one. I guess explosives are not worth it because of the red tape involved. So he told me they use this machine that sits on the stack and demolishes it inward and rides down. Seemed pretty neat but I wanted to learn more, and sometimes I love google, because "machine that rides down a smokestack to demolish it" gave me this result: http://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/2014/01/14/duke-starts-demolishing-old-smokestacks/4467151/

neat.

I know he's been posted here before but Fred Dibnah demonstrates here how you demolish a chimney without explosives:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L1WOnR2KBY

3:40 for the start of the process, 7:20 for the money shot.

Cheez
Apr 29, 2013

Someone doesn't like a shitty gimmick I like?

:siren:
TIME FOR ME TO WHINE ABOUT IT!
:siren:
Can we all just take a brake from this spelling discussion?

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
Have you guys ever had one of those OSHA-at-home moments where you touch a break rotor too soon after driving your car and you need to take a brake to get some aloe?

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

zedprime posted:

Have you guys ever had one of those OSHA-at-home moments where you touch a break rotor too soon after driving your car and you need to take a brake to get some aloe?

Yes, after driving my dad's car and braking hard over and over to figure out which wheel was causing the squeak. Dumbass.

LookieLoo
Feb 10, 2011

zedprime posted:

Have you guys ever had one of those OSHA-at-home moments where you touch a break rotor too soon after driving your car and you need to take a brake to get some aloe?

Terrible.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
ESCULA GRIND'S
#1 SIMP

Platystemon posted:



Illustration from 1956 or 1958

I'd rather take this circular saw through the gullet than spend one more god damned minute with Nancy.

edit: not shown... the Chinese LWB version.

Scruff McGruff
Feb 13, 2007

Jesus, kid, you're almost a detective. All you need now is a gun, a gut, and three ex-wives.
I really want this book now, these are amazing.
http://amzn.com/0609608010

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire

zedprime posted:

Have you guys ever had one of those OSHA-at-home moments where you touch a break rotor too soon after driving your car and you need to take a brake to get some aloe?

I used to spend a lot of time at race tracks working on cars and have put edge of rotor shaped burns on the inside of my forearms more than once. Protip- always wear long sleeves and pants and gloves when working on a hot race car.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1QNZGR0uYI

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Leaks from season six of Game of Thrones with no spoiler alert? For shame

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

That is one lucky goddamn catch.

Ak Gara
Jul 29, 2005

That's just the way he rolls.

I wish I could make it so while the snow falls, there's still snow on the roof, and that he keeps trying to walk up but keeps falling down.

Zamboni Rodeo
Jul 19, 2007

NEVER play "Lady of Spain" AGAIN!




Hexyflexy posted:

I think this is the only time I've felt a quote from Anansi Boys is appropriate;

"You're no help," he told the lime. This was unfair. It was only a lime; there was nothing special about it at all. It was doing the best it could.

Saved by the buoyancy of citrus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC-4tWx5Gv4

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004



Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
be careful, Mr Trump!

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Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
From the schadenfreude thread, one of the most hair raising videos I've ever seen.

No violence, no death or serious injury, but it took my breath away.

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