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Today's daily was fun  All that + 2 transformations. Take the curse rooms, there's a Goat Head very early on. First Angel Room is Sacred Heart. It just keeps building from there. Got My Reflection in The Chest, didn't even care. Made for a good screenshot, heh.
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Tetracube posted:Got Hush down to 20% as keeper and then died to a stray bullet from being careless. gently caress me Play slot machines as much as you can, try to get 3 orbiting flies, or at least some other combination of 3 orbitals. You wont be completely immune but it helps a lot against hush. Also get anything that helps you generate coins, so visit every shop and bomb every shopkeeper (including ones not in shops) since they can drop head of the keeper. If you get a wheel of fortune card,bring it to the boss room and play the slot machine until a bunch of coins drop, then bomb it for more coins (hopefully). You can also bomb blood banks from temperance cards, or kill beggars from judgement cards. I think justice can spawn coins too. Also try to get a higher speed if you can, keeper is slow and with your default speed you'll get hosed by hush's ice tornado things.
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Nov 25, 2015 07:04
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Something I noticed with spidermod and later a very OP build. Follower/bomb damage is not affected by the damage nerfing on either boss. Sad bombs, brimstone, guppy, curse of the tower, a grip of damage ups and a blasting cap decimated the hush in seconds. Just trigger the curse, watch your computer cave in and receive a million flies instantly. ??? died from a single trigger
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Nov 25, 2015 07:33
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Dr. Fetus posted:It's bugged. (Despite some people thinking it's fixed.) It's supposed to fire 30 tears per second, which doubles Isaac's DPS, but is actually capped at 15 tears per second, meaning that it's always a DPS downgrade unless you have Libra or Explosivo. It will double your dps if you already attack very slowly, like with polyphemus/inner eye/mutant spider/sacred heart.
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Nov 25, 2015 07:41
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I did a Keeper run earlier where I got the Piggy Bank and there was about 5 times where I got hit and didn't drop any money. I also had a run with ??? where I got Steam Sale, Restock, and a soul heart in the shop with a blod bank on the floor. I put two full life totals into the thing and each time it only dropped one coin (once it was a nickle though). Has anyone else noticed the payouts on these being lower? Possibly they got nerfed a bit in the last patch to prevent breaking runs.
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Nov 25, 2015 07:49
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So, does the order in which you pick up items matter in this game? (ignoring hardcoded caps and so on) Like, for instance, if there was no cap to the tear per second thing would it be the same to pick, say, 2 damage ups and then soymilk instead of soymild and then the damage ups? My guess is that order matters (a lot) but I haven't really checked.
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Nov 25, 2015 07:51
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trucutru posted:So, does the order in which you pick up items matter in this game? (ignoring hardcoded caps and so on) I asked this question earlier in the thread and apparently order doesn't matter.
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Nov 25, 2015 07:59
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Jibo posted:I did a Keeper run earlier where I got the Piggy Bank and there was about 5 times where I got hit and didn't drop any money. Piggy Bank was nerfed specifically for the Keeper. Not sure about the Blood Bank.
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Nov 25, 2015 08:01
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Damage is calculated by taking your damage increases and adding them up then applying your highest multiplier and Soy Milk is special in that even after that it applies a .1 multiplier. So with the base damage 35 and Soy Milk you get 3.5 damage. Now if you pick up something that adds 15 damage and a 2x multiplier you would get 10 damage rather than 22.5. I think that's how it works anyway, and my actual values may not be right. Jibo fucked around with this message at 09:05 on Nov 25, 2015 |
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Nov 25, 2015 08:09
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Jibo posted:Damage is calculated by taking your damage increases and adding them up then applying your multipliers and Soy Milk is special in that even after that it applies a .1 multiplier. Soy milk sets tear delay to (base delay/4)-2 and multiplies damage by .2. At normal tear delay that will set your delay to 0, which is intended to give you 30 tears per second but the game hard caps tears at 15/second. Normal tear rate is ~3 per second, so you end up with 5x fire rate but 1/5 damage normally and a bit worse with normal tears up items. Pick up Eve's Mascara and you're still at 2 or less delay (delay is in frames, game runs at 30 fps), so you still get 15/second only now your damage gets bumped up to .4, doubling your dps. Another example: Polyphemus + Soy Milk takes Isaac from 3.5 damage, 3 times a second to 3 damage, 7.5 times a second. Add in some regular tear ups or even just Number One and you get 3 damage, 15 times a second. Add in a big damage up like 8 inch nails and you hit just under 4 damage. Add in Sacred Heart (a tear delay multiplier that stacks with Polyphemus for SLOW fire rate) and you're still at 2 delay, now 9.2 damage, 15 times a second. Eve's Mascara fixes a round off error at this point, putting you to 18.5 damage, 6 times a second so maybe don't pick that up without Cancer, which will bump you back up to 10 per second. Mom's Perfume or another direct delay item will then put you back to 15. You now have something retarded like 277 dps and you haven't even started stacking things like 20/20 or Mutant Spider (Mutant Spider, Inner Eye, and Polyphemus share the same multiplier so you can stack them without getting any slower). TL;DR: You almost always at least break even with Soy Milk and it's amazing if you have 2 delay multipliers or more. It will ALWAYS put your delay either at the minimum or low enough that Cancer, Mom's Perfume, Capricorn, Guillotine, Cricket's Body, Pisces or Antigravity will make you ridiculous. dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Nov 25, 2015 |
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Nov 25, 2015 09:09
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Been randomly doing hardcore runs to fill out post-its and trying to unlock the Lost, and my Azazeal runs have been insane. Both runs I ended up with D4 on the first floors, and pretty much everytime it filled it I'd mash it until I got something interesting. With Lamb I had Epic Fetus and Mutant Spider, on my Chest run I had Number 1 with Monstro's Lung and enough damage to choke a horse, or you know, one shot any boss. Both of them I ended up with No. 2, which is extremely annoying.
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Nov 25, 2015 10:08
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Dr. Fetus posted:The devs CLAIMED they fixed it. They actually didn't, as people who actually tested it for themselves found out.  (Soy Milk, Evil Eye, Small Rock) Doesn't Evil Eye just match your normal tears exactly? I guess it doesn't respect the minimum delay
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Nov 25, 2015 10:46
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Found a great combo when doing a few mega satan runs from my Random No. I think it was Death's Touch, Tractor Beam, Anti-grav and Dead Eye. Basically just wind up a bunch of scythes and then let them rip through enemies with increasing damage. Dead Eye timing I don't quite understand, but all the scythes I was building up were empowered and holding their charge with anti-grav keeping them from launching. I've heard some people talking poo poo about tractor beam being boring or useless, but I think it's one of my favorite new items.
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Nov 25, 2015 14:19
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Charm of the Vampire + Sagittarius + Old Bandage + Nun's Habit with Maggie pretty much trivialized the Hush fight completely. All of his spawns kept my health up long enough to outlast him.
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Nov 25, 2015 15:53
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So, the greed machine can jam at 0%
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Nov 25, 2015 17:26
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Prop Wash posted:So, the greed machine can jam at 0% It's been brought up before. The percentage it displayed is rounded down, so it was probably actually something like 0.4%. Still loving annoying, but at least there's a reason for it.
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Nov 25, 2015 17:29
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Ridiculon has a 2 track Binding of Isaac Christmas themed EP, The Binding of Christmas, available for preorder on Bandcamp, with a name your own price, minimum of US$1. http://ridiculon.bandcamp.com/album/the-binding-of-christmas You can currently listen to the first track, which is a retelling of the intro, in the style of T'Was The Night Before Christmas.
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Nov 25, 2015 17:37
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 THANK GOD. My hands are shaking. Now all I need is to find all the items. I've never even seen toxic shock even while mass-restarting with lost/keeper
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Nov 25, 2015 17:43
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Blows my mind that more than zero people actually use the flash filter.
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Nov 25, 2015 18:32
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Vic Boss posted:Blows my mind that more than zero people actually use the flash filter. Same, except for not using it.
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Nov 25, 2015 18:35
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Had a great run with lost spoiled in womb 2 by a big room with 4 invulnerable laser eyes and mom hands and those sucking things. From the door I had nowhere to go but the middle the suck was too much.
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Nov 25, 2015 18:37
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Haha, Fruitcake + Dr. Fetus = Random bomb effects. They really thought of everything! (Except making sure their goddamn game works.)Jusupov posted:Had a great run with lost spoiled in womb 2 by a big room with 4 invulnerable laser eyes and mom hands and those sucking things. From the door I had nowhere to go but the middle the suck was too much. Save and quit and then continue the game, you'll be back at the entrance.
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Nov 25, 2015 19:10
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BJPaskoff posted:Haha, Fruitcake + Dr. Fetus = Random bomb effects. They really thought of everything! (Except making sure their goddamn game works.) I think what's great is when combos work as you'd expect and what's even greater is when combos do things that are completely insane.
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Nov 25, 2015 19:17
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Regarding Soy Milk chat, the real reason it's not great is because of knock back. Assuming you don't have piercing tears, the big loss of damage comes from almost immediately pushing enemies out from your super fast stream of shots.
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Nov 25, 2015 19:25
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Jibo posted:Same, except for not using it. 
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Personally I would prefer that our next thread cycle be "Why my opinion on graphics is the only one that matters" rather than "You're mad. Nuh uh, you're mad".
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Nov 25, 2015 19:46
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Skaw posted:Regarding Soy Milk chat, the real reason it's not great is because of knock back. Assuming you don't have piercing tears, the big loss of damage comes from almost immediately pushing enemies out from your super fast stream of shots.
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Nov 25, 2015 19:57
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Got a greed run with d20 and epic monstro glitter bombs. Never got pyromaniac, but I did have the wafer, so I could just facetank the millions of explosions going on around me and be pretty much guaranteed to heal up instantly. Good thing, too, because it's hard to dodge things with guillotine.
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Nov 25, 2015 20:22
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Mystery Prize posted:Try this, worked wonders for my old lovely laptop: Thank you for this. Thank you.
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 Did they accidentally make Godhead not a special item or anything? I keep seeing that thing in my Keeper runs.  And it's carried me through victory a lot. I managed to clear out Boss Rush, Hush, the Chest, and Mega Satan all at once thanks to an early Godhead I found. And then I found the Swallowed Penny and the run was won at that point. I found it again on my next run thanks to Chaos, except I had Mom's Knife at that point, so I couldn't get the halo tears. I died to Teratoma in Sheol. 
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Jibo posted:Personally I would prefer that our next thread cycle be "Why my opinion on graphics is the only one that matters" rather than "You're mad. Nuh uh, you're mad". It's not everyone else in the world's fault that your opinion objectively is wrong.
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Nov 25, 2015 21:00
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Might be a stupid question but do the specific challenges and the daily challenge contribute to the ongoing unlockable items? Like if I destroyed 50 tinted rocks in various challenges and then 50 in the main game would I unlock that item for future runs or are they separate? I kinda view this game as just the main game and I want to just play that and see what crazy poo poo happens but it seems like a lot of items are locked behind beating a specific thing in the main game with certain characters in certain ways, beating the actual challenges and doing other weird stuff which feels like it makes my item pool a bit limited (or it will be in another week or two if I stop seeing 10 new items every run). Reason I'm asking is it seems like I may as well crack on with the challenges since I need to beat the caves 30 times or whatever. I did look at the wikis before asking this but they didn't say anything about it, just that if you input a specific seed then you can't unlock stuff.
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This game is at its worst when you get zero damage ups. I'm trying to get my Mega Satan mark for Eve, which is the last one I need for her. Started incredibly promising with Holy Mantle and Book of Revelations in the first two floors, but I got absolute garbage for the rest of the run. The only reason I stuck with it was that I did manage to build a full key. First and only damage ups I got were in the Womb 2 devil room, Death's Touch and Pentagram. I made it to The Chest and got crap. Tried it anyway but died to the four Super Sins. One of the worst, most tedious runs I've ever played through in this game, just completely dreadful. Took me an hour just to get to the Cathedral cause I was fully exploring each level desperately hoping to get a golden chest with Steven or Cricket's Head. Instead I got Abel and Head of the Keeper. Impotently plinking away at enemies is awful.
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Nov 25, 2015 21:01
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Dr. Fetus posted:
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Pez posted:Lilith makes Greed mode so easy, all it takes is the car battery and something to charge your items faster and whammo you have 30 familiars each level The thing is, if you play as the same character in greed mode a lot, the greed donation machine jams more easily.
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I've got a great run going with Dark Bum, Little C.H.A.D and 20/20, just suffering from a lack of damage item drops, hit a floor with a Curse of the Blind. "It's probably worth picking up the treasure room item anyway!", Get Soy Milk.  Curse of the Blind is just a piece of poo poo.
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Nov 25, 2015 23:00
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Four trips to Hard Boss Rush as The Lost today, four losses in the first couple of rounds.  Holy Mantle as a starting item for him is pretty cool and all but this just keeps giving me false hope and lets me make it to the rush with lackluster builds. I also really wish I could get a rush without the drat red angel.
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Nov 25, 2015 23:05
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I'm really liking Fruitcake. The odds of getting a good tear effect are about the same as getting something with a normal tear booster. I'll take the chance of blowing myself up now and again. Just now I got into an Angel room without bombs, and figured I'd try hosing the statue with tears until one blew up. And it worked!
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IMJack posted:I'm really liking Fruitcake. The odds of getting a good tear effect are about the same as getting something with a normal tear booster. I'll take the chance of blowing myself up now and again. Just now I got into an Angel room without bombs, and figured I'd try hosing the statue with tears until one blew up. And it worked! Yeah, fruitcake is fun. What's the difference between it and 3 dollar bill again?
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AnonSpore posted:Yeah, fruitcake is fun. What's the difference between it and 3 dollar bill again? Fruitcake changes every tear while 3 dollar bill cycles over a given time
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