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MikeJF posted:Melbourne kinda has something like this but with its CBD, weirdly enough. Actually I have had a go at a city using pretty much the same idea - an 4x8 block grid parallel to a river and then a different grid for the greater area. Now if there was a hook turn mod...
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SNES Simcity is still my favorite city builder after Simcity 4 I think.
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I keep going back to SC3000 every few months. There's just something uniquely charming about it.
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Fabulousity posted:Was the SNES version of Simcity the only one that came with scenarios? With what the developers have built with this game it'd be kinda cool if Skylines2 could have (or offer through map mods) a sort of scenario gameplay option where you have to a fix an existing piece of transit infrastructure within limited funds, time, real estate, and who knows what else that you can either accept or try to Machiavelli into something better. Funny, I was just thinking about scenarios this morning, and was going to post about it here. I remember SimCity 2000 had one, Hollywood Hills fires or some such. You start out and there's fires everywhere, you need to rebuild. There is a lot of potential for this in Skylines, mostly along the "fix this traffic gently caress-up" line of things.
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Wanna get back into this after not playing for a few months. Are there any "must have" mods yet? Any huuuuge changes that are worth knowing? Is traffic the same? DLC worth it?
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In my city there is a crossroads that's notorious because of several major roads joining up and they finally created a solution that's somewhat elegant. I kind of wish C:S allowed us to create these kinds of sorting options... brown is bicycle (tunnels), south is a gas station.  
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double nine posted:In my city there is a crossroads that's notorious because of several major roads joining up and they finally created a solution that's somewhat elegant. I kind of wish C:S allowed us to create these kinds of sorting options... 
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BBJoey posted:why is everything a grid Did someone say grids and/or roundabouts?  I literally have no idea what they were smoking when they built this. it's a clusterfuck 24/7. Bonus round:  Enjoy 2 motorways, 1 motorway that ends, 2 ringroads, 1 side road and 1 major arterial route into the city all within 1/2 a mile of each other. The left most motorway has no traffic lights onto the roundabout yet the north/south one does 
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And the bottom one has a shopping park right in the mix (well, two technically) AND two different business parks. I'm just thankful there's no school near there.
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I don't know why but english city planning makes me angry, even madder than the worst american sprawl. Driving on the wrong side just makes it even more sickening.
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I recently picked up After Dark after not having played for a few months. I'm noticing clouds and/or fog at almost all zoom levels that kind of shits up the game for me. Google turned up very little on the topic. Anyone have a similar experience?
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Japanese urban "planning" pisses me off to no end. It just sucks. There is nowhere reasonable for bikes to go, as a result bikes go all over the place. Everything has traffic lights, everything is slow, bikes and pedestrians ram into each other all the time and the only reason people don't die more often is because of how slow everything is.
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Baronjutter posted:I don't know why but english city planning makes me angry, even madder than the worst american sprawl. Driving on the wrong side just makes it even more sickening. lol
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Pretty much. It's not so much a plan as (de)evolution: a continuous succession of cumulative (bad) decisions to try to fix 500-year old problems with the street layout. There's a fair chance that Darwin just made up the whole HMS Beagle trip to make it sound more plausible in reality he was just walking through Cambridge and thought to himself how the hell did we end up with this?! 
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Nov 27, 2015 09:58
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I found a Paragon City (from city of heroes) region map, but does anyone know if there's a Rogue Islands terrain map? Also any of the iconic structures from CoH and CoV
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Hadlock posted:52nd Ave Non-american here. What is the fourth one? The top 3 are respectively Avenue, Road and Drive i think?
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Ineptitude posted:Non-american here. What is the fourth one? Court
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Tippis posted:Pretty much. It's not so much a plan as (de)evolution: a continuous succession of cumulative (bad) decisions to try to fix 500-year old problems with the street layout. There's a fair chance that Darwin just made up the whole HMS Beagle trip to make it sound more plausible in reality he was just walking through Cambridge and thought to himself how the hell did we end up with this?! This. That thing where American cities occasionally have sections built completely ignoring the previous layout? We've been doing that much longer and it's usually built on top of a street layout which predates the concept of building more than one building at a time and which was probably originally laid by either Romans or goats.
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It's still nowhere near as depressing as pretty much ever American city I've ever seen, and that's an accomplishment because it's raining all the time here.
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The maps are admittedly less soul crushing but the British post war cities have all the slickness of, well, an overdesigned Skylines city.
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zedprime posted:The maps are admittedly less soul crushing but the British post war cities have all the slickness of, well, an overdesigned Skylines city. How up to date is the OP? Id like to start playing again and need to know what mods are must have / recommended. e: last time the op was updated was in May, I assume thing shave changed or progressed since then.
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LumberingTroll posted:How up to date is the OP? Id like to start playing again and need to know what mods are must have / recommended. The OP is way out of date, yeah. If you want a good list here's one from a few weeks ago: Tippis posted:I'll just list my collection, separate in stuff that should probably be in the game We may want a new OP at some point to keep mods more up to date.
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Since then, I've added the following to my list: Advanced Vehicle Options Improved Public Transport Persistent Resource View as near must-haves, and the following two as something optional that really changes up the dynamic of the game since all zones become much more dense, which in turn creates very different demands on services like education and public transport: Realistic Population/Consumption Control Building Level-up
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Tippis posted:Pretty much. It's not so much a plan as (de)evolution: a continuous succession of cumulative (bad) decisions to try to fix 500-year old problems with the street layout. There's a fair chance that Darwin just made up the whole HMS Beagle trip to make it sound more plausible in reality he was just walking through Cambridge and thought to himself how the hell did we end up with this?! A lot of leicester's problems is that a city planner came in in the 60s, proposed a giant system of elevated walkways and ring roads. The goverment built the ringroads then cancelled the plans for the elevated walkways.
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I saw this one the other day, but haven't tried it myself yet: Sharp Junction Angles
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nielsm posted:I saw this one the other day, but haven't tried it myself yet: I can't understand why this isn't just default. Why did CO make the angles not allowed to be realistically sharp? I can see them allowing insane unrealistic angles on trains and stuff to make things a bit more accessible, but outright forbidding angles that look good for trains and highways???
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nielsm posted:I saw this one the other day, but haven't tried it myself yet: Ooh. Neat. That definitely looks like it's worth some testing. That said, I don't know if it's a (different) mod issue or something else, but I've noticed that vehicles sometimes seem to have pathing issues with sharp angles. I first noticed it when my bus lines refused to connect properly as I routed them through some of the tighter roundabouts I had built. I wonder if that would become an even bigger problem with the kind of junctions that mod allows you to build.
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Tippis posted:Ooh. Neat. That definitely looks like it's worth some testing. I think CiM2 has something like that too, disallowing turns on very sharp corners. You really can't make a good right-turn if the angle is 160 deg in real life either.
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Was there ever a fix for all the traffic getting into the lane that they would be turning in right away no matter how far away the turn is?
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LumberingTroll posted:Was there ever a fix for all the traffic getting into the lane that they would be turning in right away no matter how far away the turn is? No, because it's by design.
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nielsm posted:I think CiM2 has something like that too, disallowing turns on very sharp corners. You really can't make a good right-turn if the angle is 160 deg in real life either. Well, yes. That makes sense, but the curious thing is that it's almost the exact opposite that causes issues for me, and only intermittently which makes it even more strange. I have a fairy standard build where I split a 3+3-lane road into two one-way 3-lanes (i.e. bits of freeway) that join a roundabout at an angle, just to keep the traffic from having to turn 90° as they enter and exit the roundabout. Normally, those on/off bits of road connect with the roundabout at ~45° (according to precision engineering), and everything's peachy. If I reduce that angle, meaning there's less of a turn for the traffic, it somehow, breaks the AI path finding. e: It's the design front and centre(ish) that occasionally exhibits this issue if the angles become a bit more extreme:  I can make the join between 6-lane and 3-lanes as sharp as the game allows without a problem, but somehow, the entry and exit with the roundabout has to be >45° or the traffic gets really confused for some reason, even though it's all moving in one direction and should just be a matter of driving almost straight ahead. In practice, it's not a problem because it's trivially easy not to make it happen it's just curious that it does happen for some reason. Tippis fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Nov 27, 2015 |
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Man, when will After Dark go on sale?
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Danny Glands posted:Man, when will After Dark go on sale? I too am checking Steam constantly.
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nielsm posted:No, because it's by design. This is dumb.
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LumberingTroll posted:This is dumb. A better traffic simulation is very resource intensive and CO did not want the game to be limited strictly to people with high end gaming rigs. If you have a high end gaming rig then install Traffic++ and enjoy.
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LumberingTroll posted:This is dumb. A better approximation of RL would be the same behavior, except at least 10% of the cars pull out into the passing lane and force a merger near the exit anyway, exacerbating the situation
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ANIME IS BLOOD posted:A better approximation of RL would be the same behavior, except at least 10% of the cars pull out into the passing lane and force a merger near the exit anyway, exacerbating the situation It would help with logjamming other intersections upstream, but with the money you usually have you can sew up overflow like that fairly tidily by treating the road like the parking lot it is and just plastering extra parking area if you really insist that everybody must take that route like an idiot.
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Eric the Mauve posted:
Does this actually address the issue? I see its also compatible with Trafic Manager now, does that apply to Traffic Manager Plus?
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I started playing this, and for a little while all was well. Now it crashes whenever it tries to autosave my city. Any suggestions?
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Angrymog posted:I started playing this, and for a little while all was well. Now it crashes whenever it tries to autosave my city. One place to start is to look at the log file for some leads: <SteamFolder>\SteamApps\common\Cities_Skylines\Cities_Data\output_log.txt
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