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Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"


So, this is during the September turns. You can see i'm doing better in the North and Center but a lot worse in the South. There's a point in the game where you basically get no reinforcements for 11 turns as the Soviets, and this is probably the most tense part of the game because you really do have to preserve your forces. I'm about 3 turns into that stretch and I don't know how i'm going to keep the Axis out of Rostov.

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uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!
It looks like your entire southern front is conscripts? woof.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

uPen posted:

It looks like your entire southern front is conscripts? woof.

I don't have much of a choice in that. I think I can pull in one normal army with the change orders card. I think maybe if I were asking for a feature, it would be naval evacuation via the black sea. This is historical- you can't really replicate the siege of Odessa and the result in the game as is.

TehKeen
May 24, 2006

Maybe she's born with it.
Maybe it's
cosmoline.


out of curiosity, what are those weird hexagonal things that show up every few frames?

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

TehKeen posted:

out of curiosity, what are those weird hexagonal things that show up every few frames?

It must be a quirk of the game's screenshot function. Those are command ranges for army HQs.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

TehKeen posted:

out of curiosity, what are those weird hexagonal things that show up every few frames?

Nuclear detonations.

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

I decided to pick up DC: WtP on this thread's recommendation and when I went to buy it in steam I blacked out and woke up drooling all over my desk with panzer corps and all dlc in my steam library. thanks a lot, rear end holes.

e:


this is an official game tutorial :psyduck:

Control Volume fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Nov 27, 2015

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Yeah, DC's tutorial might be barebones but it still manages to cover all the 'push this button to make things happen' things you need to know.

Alikchi
Aug 18, 2010

Thumbs up I agree

The DC games really pretty intuitive once you figure out that almost all your actions are through the pile of buttons at the bottom.

It's a decent enough interface for a grog game but if it had a right click menu for orders it'd be perfect

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!
WitE's shift click system would be better but that only works because you're limited to 3 chits/hex. In DC the limit is like 25 chits so selecting attackers from the menu is probably the best way to do it.

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes

Alchenar posted:

Yeah, DC's tutorial might be barebones but it still manages to cover all the 'push this button to make things happen' things you need to know.

I don't know about the earlier DCs, but DC:B plays movies with narrated gameplay, which is nice, but whoever recorded the voiceover seems to have done so next to a cage full of budgies.

paradigmblue
Oct 12, 2003

Pharnakes posted:

Poor fulmars.

Fulmars are good for dying, and not much else. Low speed and terrible maneuver rating combine in a plane that isn't particularly durable either. They make decent strike planes against soft targets like shipping, but that's about it.

Why the Japanese player didn't have escorts for his bombers is beyond me - also I would have expected stronger CAP from that TF. Even outnumbering the Japanese carriers 1.5 to 1, the allies got lucky in that exchange.

rchandra
Apr 30, 2013


Drone posted:

Ha, World in Flames down to an amazing $79. :rolleyes: Did they ever add AI to that "game"?
No, but every once in a blue moon they have some minor progress I think. They said this in June:

Matrix posted:

This is still something we plan to and want to do, but will nevertheless be a large task. Realistically this is not going to happen this year, but could be started before the end of next year.
It comes after fixing solitaire and netplay, adding a bunch of optional rules, adding more scenarios, and maybe expanding netplay to 4-6 players in the priority list.

Are there any decent ports of giant board wargames?

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Control Volume posted:

I decided to pick up DC: WtP on this thread's recommendation and when I went to buy it in steam I blacked out and woke up drooling all over my desk with panzer corps and all dlc in my steam library. thanks a lot, rear end holes.

:getin:

If I can suggest something, don't play Afrika Korps first. Grand Campaign and Allied Corps are much easier to ease into the game, although Allied Corps quickly jumps to mid-late war.

Pharnakes
Aug 14, 2009

rchandra posted:

No, but every once in a blue moon they have some minor progress I think. They said this in June:

It comes after fixing solitaire and netplay, adding a bunch of optional rules, adding more scenarios, and maybe expanding netplay to 4-6 players in the priority list.


Lets face it there's no way they can get an AI to handle it well. On some level I don't blame them for skipping it, it's the no net play that blows my mind.

fuf
Sep 12, 2004

haha

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

Steam currently doesn't have a "Grognard" tag for all these games. I've taken it upon myself to start tagging these games with that for easier organization/searching. If enough of us do it it should show up as a legit tag. Just sayin'.

Is there a grog "curator" on steam somewhere? I couldn't find one. It would be useful to have a list of all the grog games available.

Also I just happened to read some of your SoW Waterloo performance thread and one of the developers claimed that the FPS problems might be caused by people having too much dust inside their PCs. :negative:

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

Are there any suggestions for a decent Napoleonic game for someone whose experience with grogs is quite light (Paradox, Unity of Command... Ultimate General)? Specifics of theaters and operational levels don't really bother me, I'm just interested in the period and relative approachability.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Fuligin posted:

Are there any suggestions for a decent Napoleonic game for someone whose experience with grogs is quite light (Paradox, Unity of Command... Ultimate General)? Specifics of theaters and operational levels don't really bother me, I'm just interested in the period and relative approachability.

Napoleon: Total War.

What? It's a genuinely good game.

Crown of Glory is a typical horribly complex and terribly designed grognard game that does everything.

Can you stomach the awfulness of AGEOD and their lovely game engine that ran terribly on Windows XP and hasn't really changed since? Wars of Napoleon might be for you (coming soon). If you want AGEOD now then Rise of Prussia is set in the Seven Years War which is basically Napoleonic.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Napoleon Total War? For the RTS fun anyways :shrug:

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Hell, Nappy is currently something like $5 on Steam right now, just get that.

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

Haha, maybe I will just replay Napoleon TW. Or polish off the UoC DLCs before the sequel comes out, whenever that is.

Really what I want is an Ultimate General: Napoleon or something, or a better version of Paradox's March of the Eagles.

Dirt Worshipper
Apr 2, 2007

Paralithodes Californiensis
The Darthmod for Napoleon Total War is a lot of fun too.

Pimpmust
Oct 1, 2008

I just bought To End All Wars, I will regret this :negative:

dublish
Oct 31, 2011


Pimpmust posted:

I just bought To End All Wars, I will regret this :negative:

By now, they've probably patched out Britain joining in immediately even if Belgium gets ignored.

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Fuligin posted:

Are there any suggestions for a decent Napoleonic game for someone whose experience with grogs is quite light (Paradox, Unity of Command... Ultimate General)? Specifics of theaters and operational levels don't really bother me, I'm just interested in the period and relative approachability.

There's the Commander game - http://www.matrixgames.com/products/362/details/Commander.-.Napoleon.at.War. I haven't played the Napoleon one but the WW1 version of the game is pretty good.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

V for Vegas posted:

There's the Commander game - http://www.matrixgames.com/products/362/details/Commander.-.Napoleon.at.War. I haven't played the Napoleon one but the WW1 version of the game is pretty good.

I like how the product blurb still touts that it's the latest game in the series even though it's 8 years old and there have been like 3 other games since then.

dtkozl
Dec 17, 2001

ultima ratio regum

V for Vegas posted:

There's the Commander game - http://www.matrixgames.com/products/362/details/Commander.-.Napoleon.at.War. I haven't played the Napoleon one but the WW1 version of the game is pretty good.

Avoid it, it never got the love the ww1 game got.

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Alchenar posted:

Can you stomach the awfulness of AGEOD and their lovely game engine that ran terribly on Windows XP and hasn't really changed since? Wars of Napoleon might be for you (coming soon). If you want AGEOD now then Rise of Prussia is set in the Seven Years War which is basically Napoleonic.

There is also Ageod's old Napoleonic game - Napoleon's Campaigns http://www.matrixgames.com/products/487/details/Napoleon which is :10bux: at the moment. It's complicated and poorly documented, but as far as I can see the only major difference to the new Napoleon game is it lacks a 10 year grand campaign. It does have lots of smaller campaigns though, including a hypothetical invasion of the UK.

The General
Mar 4, 2007


Where should I start with WtP?

Mori
Mar 6, 2003

fuf posted:

Is there a grog "curator" on steam somewhere? I couldn't find one. It would be useful to have a list of all the grog games available.

Also I just happened to read some of your SoW Waterloo performance thread and one of the developers claimed that the FPS problems might be caused by people having too much dust inside their PCs. :negative:

I just want to tell you guys that I was really interested in this game and was planning to buy it when I had time to play it. Now there is no way I can give these developers money. poo poo.

markgreyam
Mar 10, 2008

Talk to the mittens.
Whoa, I just got an email from Matrix/Slitherine with a "thanks for being with us for 3 years" and a discount voucher for 41% off my next purchase, which after testing I can confirm stacks on top of the Xmas sale that goes through until Jan 10th.

Unfortunately I can't see anywhere in my Matrix account when my account was created (I created my Matrix account well before my Slitherine one), but if anyone here knows theirs, and is aware that they are due an anniversary soon, maybe hold out until you get your email for super holiday discounts.

fuf posted:

Also I just happened to read some of your SoW Waterloo performance thread and one of the developers claimed that the FPS problems might be caused by people having too much dust inside their PCs.

:allears:

Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?
Hair Elf

Fuligin posted:

Haha, maybe I will just replay Napoleon TW. Or polish off the UoC DLCs before the sequel comes out, whenever that is.

Really what I want is an Ultimate General: Napoleon or something, or a better version of Paradox's March of the Eagles.

If you want to grog up N:TW just turn off the radar in battles and/or unit cards.

Also you can get simple mods (darth mod also has this option) to increase the units per battle to 40 units per side (up from 20). When you combine that huge number of units with the lack of radar it tends to level the playing field between AI and human.

INinja132
Aug 7, 2015

The General posted:

Where should I start with WtP?

Maybe start with the Netherlands extra scenario. It's quite interesting and not too tremendously difficult. Then maybe Case White which is also interesting and is incredibly difficult (to win in the time limit at least).

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

I went and used my 11% off coupon to get CMANO for £25. Seemed like a decent price.

markgreyam
Mar 10, 2008

Talk to the mittens.

markgreyam posted:

after testing I can confirm stacks on top of the Xmas sale that goes through until Jan 10th.

Okay don't do this. I closed down my browser before making a purchase and now the link to the my discount code is telling me the token is no longer valid, so apparently the system thinks I used the code, so it's not actually waiting for a transaction to occur, just for the code to be applied. Fingers crossed support can help me out because with a 41% discount I'm ready to drop a hundred bucks on stuff.

The General
Mar 4, 2007


markgreyam posted:

... with a 41% discount I'm ready to drop a hundred bucks on stuff.

So you're gonna buy two grognard games eh?

markgreyam
Mar 10, 2008

Talk to the mittens.
As soon as I posted, I realised what I'd said haha

I'm going through the sale now under the assumption this can be sorted out, working out what I want, it's really look like I will spend more :ohdear:

I can get the Scourge of War Gettysburg 150th Anniversary Collection for AUS$34 ...

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



Advanced Tactics Gold: worth the fifteen buck sale price or not? Did the developer guy backport the better DC AI into it? The idea of those randomized nations really appeals to me, like a wargame version of Civilization or something.

Pharnakes
Aug 14, 2009
I believe ATG uses the DC:WtP AI code, it does not (yet) benefit from the further refinements of DC:CB or DC:B.

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Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"


Welp, I decided to make this.

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