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Bloodly posted:In what sense? Funny good, funny bad, funny weird? Well you had to be there.
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Lorak posted:So, from people messing around with it, how is the T6
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I stopped playing during the Dyson events and holy poo poo have a lot changed. Not even my spacebar aux2bat ability string was kept so I have to find out what I used.  EDIT: Can't find my posts in the old thread. Got my spacebar.txt set up, just need to know what ten skills I need to put in and in roughly what order for my fedrom fleet escort built on aux2bat. Rutkowski fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Nov 28, 2015 |
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^Auxbat is no longer king poo poo of the playing field, provided you have the doffs there are much better options nowadays. Ask in Gooneration or hit up the wiki, though the wiki tends to be slightly out of date. Yeah, the Jupiter is fine if you want a big-rear end whale. Obviously you can't fly it with the standard cookie-cutter tac heavy boff and doff layout you can apply to 90% of goon ship recommendations, but the crazy amounts of science can be used to offset the lack of APO - grav well is just as powerful now as it always was, and Resonance beam can be used to massively supplement damage as well. Tyken's rift is also probably a good choice. It's also drat near invulnerable in normal gameplay (Gozers will still wreck you though.) About the only major complaint I have is that the thing kinda has One True Build syndrome - there doesn't appear to be a lot of room for experimentation while remaining combat effective. Also it is slow as gently caress if that bothers people. The pets are hilarious in the sense that they are covered in far too many guns for their size, and with scatter volley on they look like tiny dots in space making GBS threads the entire stockpile of the USSR onto a target - 10% of the time anyway. These are Cryptic pets so they tend to not stay on target like they should. They do turn better than other pets of their type though, so while they aren't Mesh Weavers, they solidly beat out any other cannon/dbb armed pet available. But the HY3 is just as effective as people though it would be, and provided they're pointed at a target, more than likely that target will not have shields just do to sheer volume of fire. So if you're flying a Jupiter, take the Callistos. Psycho Landlord fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Nov 28, 2015 |
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Rutkowski posted:
Copied from the bottom of this page: https://wiki.wesleyguide.com/from_baddie_to_better - from left to right: Aux to Battery, Directed Energy Modulation, Emergency Power to Weapons, Emergency Power to Shields, Fire at Will
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Psycho Landlord posted:hit up the wiki, though the wiki tends to be slightly out of date. lol
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Mondian posted:lol This at least is fairly up to date.
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Mondian posted:lol In geological terms that's true.
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Mondian posted:lol I was being nice.
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Hey, I don't give a crap. I felt a little bad about new guys coming in asking questions about articles I wrote like three years ago, but when I offered bounties to people for updated articles, no one cared to do it. 
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Here's the short short short guide to outperforming 90% of all pubbies: 1) Set weapon power to maximum 2) Use single beams of the same color + the same type of tactical consoles 3) Use two copies of Beam: Fire At Will Done. Regardless of your ship choices or any other factors such as skill points you are now probably Top DPS in your pug teams.
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DancingShade posted:Here's the short short short guide to outperforming 90% of all pubbies: Even if I'm using an Oberth?
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Mondian posted:Hey, I don't give a crap. I felt a little bad about new guys coming in asking questions about articles I wrote like three years ago, but when I offered bounties to people for updated articles, no one cared to do it. I did, mate. I did.
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DarkMalfunction posted:Even if I'm using an Oberth? You can and will steal aggro off pubbies with a T1 anything. Hanger pets will do it too.
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DarkMalfunction posted:Even if I'm using an Oberth? Yeah, seriously, you joke about this, but STO is a game where pubbies in STFs are routinely outdamaged by ambient warp core breaches. Do those things and you are instantly more capable than most of the player base.
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DancingShade posted:Here's the short short short guide to outperforming 90% of all pubbies: DancingShade posted:You can and will steal aggro off pubbies with a T1 anything. The aggro thing fully lines up with what I'm seeing in the space encounters with my craptastic Vor'cha that gets shot up a lot next to other people's shiny pimpboats. (after converting to a lot of beam banks.) Also, at what point is a toon theoretically useful to Nerds of Prey? I can't even get into Borg/Tholian instances yet.
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You don't need to worry about being useful, just ask for an invite in the channel.
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Psycho Landlord posted:Yeah, seriously, you joke about this, but STO is a game where pubbies in STFs are routinely outdamaged by ambient warp core breaches. Do those things and you are instantly more capable than most of the player base. Honestly at this point in the game's life they should just lock weapon power at 100% and only let people juggle the rest around. Nobody with any sense does otherwise. And that's just one efficiency issue.
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Speak for yourself, I find the defensive preset perfect for my primarily tank/support based play style. You see, I tank all those hits and hand out heals to keep my DPS focused teammates alive. Its a well known dichotomy in team roles and I think you'll find it applicable to many tactical scenarios. I wouldn't expect a bunch of trolls to know about it, though. That's why I never STF with you guys.
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Psycho Landlord posted:You don't need to worry about being useful, just ask for an invite in the channel. Can I get a TheNextGooneration channel invite to Xur@thekodanarmada#7342? If the op is still sorta accurate that way. I had started with I think the default Steam name, but decided to go with something less instantly google-able since everyone is doing the lord's work of infuriating people into doxxing.
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Mondian posted:Speak for yourself, I find the defensive preset perfect for my primarily tank/support based play style. You see, I tank all those hits and hand out heals to keep my DPS focused teammates alive. Its a well known dichotomy in team roles and I think you'll find it applicable to many tactical scenarios. I wouldn't expect a bunch of trolls to know about it, though. That's why I never STF with you guys. https://www.reddit.com/r/stobuilds/comments/3ugssp/sharing_my_builds_also_reminder_i_am_a_eng_tank/
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The official wiki encourages that poo poo though since it has a section about good tank and healer ships. The best tank and heal are just blowing up whatever the gently caress is shooting you in no seconds flat and also having a few traits slotted. Seriously, there's traits that keep you topped up just by you shooting things. Or just knowing when to hit evasive maneuvers and get the gently caress away from where you are to somewhere nobody is shooting you for a few.
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18 Character Limit posted:Can I get a TheNextGooneration channel invite to Xur@thekodanarmada#7342? If the op is still sorta accurate that way. Sent you a channel invite, just ask for a fleet invite to whatever faction fleet when you feel like it. Also good work on using a different account name. Angry ERPists can and will try to stalk you.
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Mondian posted:Speak for yourself, I find the defensive preset perfect for my primarily tank/support based play style. You see, I tank all those hits and hand out heals to keep my DPS focused teammates alive. Its a well known dichotomy in team roles and I think you'll find it applicable to many tactical scenarios. I wouldn't expect a bunch of trolls to know about it, though. That's why I never STF with you guys. But yeah, the fact that people think that poo poo like "tank boats" and "healer boats" are something that actually matters in PVE due to obtuse mechanics is part of the problem too.
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Every MMO must have the holy trinity from WoW  Also loving torp escorts now. If even my sci character can clock up random 70k crits from a T6 akira spamming spacebar then I imagine it only gets better with the proper tactical buffs and some attempt at co-ordination & timing.
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DancingShade posted:Every MMO must have the holy trinity from WoW Torpedo jihad 4lyfe --- To the guy wanting to be useful. Saying funny poo poo to pubbies is still p useful. If that is a no go, just having your toon stand next to theirs has resulted in literal real life death threats. Pubbies in this game are legit insane for real.
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DancingShade posted:Also loving torp escorts now. If even my sci character can clock up random 70k crits from a T6 akira spamming spacebar then I imagine it only gets better with the proper tactical buffs and some attempt at co-ordination & timing. 
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DancingShade posted:Every MMO must have the holy trinity from WoW Not that it must, it's just usually when people try to replace it they gently caress it up. I hate to say it but I must give STO credit here, mobility and huge alpha strike capabilities are a great way to do it but I am also pretty sure they lucked into that. Either way it makes them less retarded than ArenaNet which isn't much but it's something.
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Took advantage of the sale to use fake money I didn't pay for to buy a presidio. I got it mostly for the trait, but while I fly it I want it blinged out as much as possible. I also have one in a stunning shade of pink. Increased ship colors is the best addition to the game in the last year. Plus, it turns out that between consoles and traits it is a driftu machine. DAVE!!!(c)(tm) fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Nov 29, 2015 |
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Hey, this game seems fun. Can I please get an invite to TheNextGooneration sent to Sans@traumaticon?
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Asimo posted:What is a torpedo build like these days anyway? I refuse to believe such a thing is even viable after years and years of it being a pub trap, even with actual parses showing it can work now. There have been a lot of traits and items and such added over time that make torps more worth using. IIRC the most useful builds generally put 3 torps in front, then beams as needed. You usually also want a ship that can use grav well on it's own so that you can gather up enemies to nail them with HYT/torp spread. ugh its Troika fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Nov 29, 2015 |
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Trauma Tank posted:Hey, this game seems fun. Prepare to be disappointed.
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Mondian posted:Speak for yourself, I find the defensive preset perfect for my primarily tank/support based play style. You see, I tank all those hits and hand out heals to keep my DPS focused teammates alive. Its a well known dichotomy in team roles and I think you'll find it applicable to many tactical scenarios. I wouldn't expect a bunch of trolls to know about it, though. That's why I never STF with you guys. To be fair to the pubbies, it's really impossible to see how well you're doing/not doing in game. You have to turn on combat logging and run an external parser to know what's really going on. And there's enough DPS chasers pugging it still that your average pubbie build can still run CCA or ISA and succeed most of the time, never realizing that they're getting carried.
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They will also routinely criticise you when you are doing the carrying. Also: Mondian, your post captured the spirit of pub play in this game absolutely perfectly.
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Do presets really matter all that much these days though? I can do pretty much whatever and have all the levels constantly maxed. Obviously that means there's no obvious reason to dump weapons anyway but you could probably keep max levels just from mixed. Not that I'm gonna tinker with it to find out but meh.
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DAVE!!!(c)(tm) posted:Took advantage of the sale to use fake money I didn't pay for to buy a presidio. I got it mostly for the trait, but while I fly it I want it blinged out as much as possible. Man, that reminds me of a boat from Earth and Beyond.
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I kinda wish there was dps meter or something that would give you an indication how well your set up is. It is annoying as well, I've taken to just using sets from reps, and at times mix and matching like I am working on a withering phaser set, and going to mix and match with the sunrise set. I have an iconian anti proton set and a romplas set. i was going to do a thoran polarn set, but kinda gave up on it since the romplas owned. This just reminded me that i still had my antiproton buff on my fatboat using romplas 
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Asimo posted:What is a torpedo build like these days anyway? I refuse to believe such a thing is even viable after years and years of it being a pub trap, even with actual parses showing it can work now. With a beam overload doff that gives a 30 percent chance for a 35 percent bleed through, and stacks up to three times with three doffs, AND kinetic shearing, AND concentrate fire power, AND the torpedo R&D trait, AND a shitload of other traits and armor penetrating yadayada yada, it's actually a lot of fun. You can put a torp build out on almost any ship with the right equipment. Mine is currently on a T6 Flexcelsior. 100% bleed-through when the stars align. Which is most of the time. One single beam fore and aft with three torp each fore and aft. If your using all photon torps, you can pretty much park your ship and poo poo out torps and fast rate. Best part about it I think is I did not spend any EC on the build except for the yellow RCS thingamabob. All my beams and torps, and consoles are rep, and spire gear. The overwhelming force trait is a good one to pick up off the exchange if your fed side. I could go on forever about a torp build but it would take too long. I have not seen a cookie-cutter build for one yet. Everyone is using different torps and different traits to their liking and they all work very well. Lafarg fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Nov 29, 2015 |
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