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FlamingLiberal posted:Remember that the FEC has outright stated they are not going to be able to actually do anything right now about campaign finance violations since they are deadlocked between Dems and Republicans. Source please?
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Grundulum posted:Source please? The New York Times: F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says quote:The leader of the Federal Election Commission, the agency charged with regulating the way political money is raised and spent, says she has largely given up hope of reining in abuses in the 2016 presidential campaign, which could generate a record $10 billion in spending. That said, there's may still a limit to the outright unlawful activity campaigns are willing to engage in.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 06:30 |
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More bits and pieces from the Planned Parenthood shooting that came out today: The two civilians were identified today. Both were accompanying someone else to the clinic. Police believe we're better off not knowing why this man shot up the clinic.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 06:37 |
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My local news just literally said "When police arrested Dear he said, 'No more baby parts', as well as mentioning President Obama. No motive has yet been determined."
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 06:41 |
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ComradeCosmobot posted:More bits and pieces from the Planned Parenthood shooting that came out today: That last one makes sense for Colorado Springs.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 06:41 |
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Police believe we're better off not knowing why this man shot up the clinic. Well the DA's going to have to present one during trial.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 06:54 |
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Police believe we're better off not knowing why this man shot up the clinic. Oh, NOW they don't want to tell anyone why a nut shot up the place. I wonder why.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 06:55 |
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ComradeCosmobot posted:
What the gently caress? Is this a thing that's ever happened? Mr Interweb fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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Munkeymon posted:Well the DA's going to have to present one during trial. They won't have to. There'd seem to be plenty of evidence of intention – to support a first-degree murder charge – without having to address motive. Nor will it necessarily go to trial, though it's not clear what the DA could offer to get a plea. While Colorado is a death penalty state, and conceivably there could be a plea down to life without parole, murdering a cop might make even that reduction in penalty unpalatable. An insanity defense would, of course, bring it all out.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 07:04 |
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Tide goes in, tide goes out. A man shoots up a Planned Parenthood. Never a miscommunication. You can't explain that.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 07:12 |
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Sir Kodiak posted:The New York Times: F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says quote:“We’re not interested in going after people unless the law is fairly clear, and we’re not willing to take the law beyond where it’s written,” said Caroline C. Hunter, a Republican commissioner. Democrats view the law “more broadly,” she said. So I suppose its possible. You know, if someone breaks laws live on Fox news and dares the FEC to come after them.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 07:25 |
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hobbesmaster posted:So I suppose its possible. You know, if someone breaks laws live on Fox news and dares the FEC to come after them. I can see Trump doing that.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 07:49 |
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I bet we'll see 'Real Americans Support Trump' as a slogan by the time we hit the primaries.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 08:01 |
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icantfindaname posted:if Cruz gets it i don't think there will be any room to run 3rd party for Trump.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 08:04 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:Someone looked up his voter registration and it says female. That's the only reference I can find to that. It could be a clerical error for all anyone knows. Let's clarify here. The voter registration said UAF, which means unaffiliated but they are choosing to claim means United Against Fascism. This would be the "left wing activist" part. The "transgender/identifies as female" part comes not from the voter Id or drivers license, but from a geneology website that pulls from Colorado public records and has a disclaimer about accuracy.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 08:27 |
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Cythereal posted:Usurpation of Hawaii? Annexation of Texas? Pretty sure we ended up fighting the rebels in that one
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 08:33 |
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Mr Interweb posted:What the gently caress? Sealing warrants esp in high profile cases like this is not uncommon (DA in Arapahoe moved to seal the warrants related to the Batman shooter as well) and not publicly speculating on motive is pretty common as well. The former because an unarrested accomplice could get notice and destroy evidence before the warrant is executed, the latter to have an untainted jury pool as possible/covering rear end for possible misconduct allegations/not say something that will come and bite them in the rear end later PR-wise (like when they said the motive for that guy murdering 3 Muslims was a parking dispute, did not work out well). But it's understandable why to view this with suspicion
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 08:34 |
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it's important to remember that people are naturally curious and hungry for information in the wake of a politicized tragedy like the recent PP shooting, and we're all trained now to expect piping hot info on demand because of the internet and 24/7 media cycle. but our criminal justice system moves at a slower pace, and this is a Good Thing, so let's not just off the cuff assume that the Colorado Springs PD is trying to cover for a right wing terrorist due to investigative procedure
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 09:10 |
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Honestly it'd be nice if they just stopped commenting or speculation on motives and advertising the shooter's identity and motivation for most mass shootings. Everyone, police and media. But this has probably more to do along what Jagchosis said instead of any change in how Americans deal with mass shooters. Maybe next week, when the next one happens?
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 09:28 |
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Jagchosis posted:Sealing warrants esp in high profile cases like this is not uncommon (DA in Arapahoe moved to seal the warrants related to the Batman shooter as well) and not publicly speculating on motive is pretty common as well. The former because an unarrested accomplice could get notice and destroy evidence before the warrant is executed, the latter to have an untainted jury pool as possible/covering rear end for possible misconduct allegations/not say something that will come and bite them in the rear end later PR-wise (like when they said the motive for that guy murdering 3 Muslims was a parking dispute, did not work out well). But it's understandable why to view this with suspicion Oh so it's basically standard procedure?
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 10:55 |
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Mr Interweb posted:Oh so it's basically standard procedure? Yeah pretty much. Hell they didn't even decide on a motive for the Sandy Hook shooter after a year or two of investigation (though I personally felt it wasn't that hard to reckon from the evidence collected)
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 10:59 |
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The Iron Rose posted:Funding the Muj actually went pretty well for us. There's this whole myth about how we (read: the ISI) really ended up supplying Bin Laden and the Taliban, but that's not really born out in truth. Do you have a good source I could use to read up on this?
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 11:45 |
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RPZip posted:Do you have a good source I could use to read up on this? Its the plot of the movie "Charlie Wilson's War" I think.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 11:49 |
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FetusSlapper posted:Its the plot of the movie "Charlie Wilson's War" I think. I remember reading the book version of Charlie Wilson's War a few years ago and I remember it having mostly the opposite set of conclusions (namely, that the ISI did end up using our weapons to arm the Taliban/bin Laden), which is why I wanted to ask.
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Taeke posted:The president could declare themself a MLP fan The horror. Boon posted:I don't know guys, I think I might just read the first half of Romance of the Three Kingdoms for something completely off the grid. It might prove to taxing in which case I'll give Dead Elephants a shot (and probably buy The Divide at the same time). Abridged or complete? Because, while a great read, it, uh, has some unsavory anachronistic values... From what I remember, Liu Bei's army is down on rations at one point and they happen to visit a man and his wife in the countryside. Man immediately goes off to kill his wife then cuts and cooks her up to serve the generals, who on their part praise the man for his display of virtue and dedication to his betters. My all time favorite part of RotTK though is when Zhuge Liang, upon seeing a vastly superior enemy army approaching the gates, sits himself at the front alone playing the zither (a Classical Chinese instrument), forcing the enemy to retreat in fear because they figure how could an enemy strategist be so calm and collected as to play an instrument in front of them unless they were confident in their numbers? Later, when the enemy army decides to finally approach again, Zhuge Liang, despite being literally on his deathbed, orders to have his body carted before the enemy army in a palanquin in an upright seated position to fool the enemy again into believing he has full confidence in his army's strength against theirs. The enemy army is spooked again and does not try to strike again. Zhuge Liang was a bad rear end strategist even after his death. Well, that, or Guan Yu being praised by Cao Cao (the head of an enemy kingdom, taking over the old formal Han dynasty seat) for having such a marvelous beard and receiving a beard sheathe from the latter to protect said bad-rear end beard. ...I kind of love RotTK . Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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FetusSlapper posted:Its the plot of the movie "Charlie Wilson's War" I think. Philip Seymore Hoffman is fantastic in this btw. Also, great break from Tom Hanks being Mr Clean Cut Family Man in all his other roles to being a coked up whore mongering party man. Totally worth 2 hours of your time
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 13:56 |
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I give you, Forbes! http://www.forbes.com/sites/johntamny/2015/11/29/bernie-sanders-is-almost-totally-a-creation-of-the-wealth-he-disdains/ quote:Bernie Sanders Is Almost Totally A Creation Of The Wealth He Disdains "Why would future rich psychology majors want to vote for this man, who would raise taxes on them and enact policies that won't help them???" I love Forbes. I love Forbes a lot.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 14:04 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:I give you, Forbes! I am reading Forbes, therefor I am rich. I do not want to be taxed.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 15:03 |
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Gandhi was a fake rear end bitch, says Forbes columnist.
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Luigi Thirty posted:I give you, Forbes! From what I understand; everybody in America is just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 15:05 |
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His dislike of Gandhi translates directly to his take on Sander's supporters, as well. He can't imagine why anyone from a higher caste would want to help anyone from a lower one, or for that matter do away with a caste system altogether, since obviously they're doing alright by it.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 15:08 |
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Just heard about/saw Trump mocking the disabled reporter. How crude can you be? I guess it just goes to show how truly garbage a sizable portion of the American electorate really is.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 15:22 |
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Just heard about/saw Trump mocking the disabled reporter. How crude can you be? The descent into tyranny will be brought by the very people who claim to be defending us from it.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 15:30 |
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I saw that article yesterday, and I had a chuckle when I realized the breakdown was basically that Sanders, and virtually all successful Leftist politicians, are insufficiently pure as Leftists, according to Forbes. That's pretty loving funny. I'm a bit morbidly curious what he'd have to say about Jose Mujica, who came from having nothing and being a revolutionary freedom fighter and gives all the money he makes away.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 15:30 |
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Georgetown is a bad example to pick of an elite school nobody has heard of because of college basketball imo
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 15:42 |
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Just heard about/saw Trump mocking the disabled reporter. How crude can you be?
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 15:44 |
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T. Bombastus posted:Oh it's cool, Trump says he wasn't mocking that dude-- in fact, he says he has no idea who the reporter is! Now that two opposing versions of events exist, it's impossible to know which one is true; it's like nothing ever happened! We'll never know Trump's motive.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 15:45 |
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Personally, I can't wait for the inevitable economic collapse that will be coming again. There's going to be a lot of old white folks on SSDI doing the old murder suicide dance.
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# ? Nov 30, 2015 15:47 |
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Radbot posted:Personally, I can't wait for the inevitable economic collapse that will be coming again. There's going to be a lot of old white folks on SSDI doing the old murder suicide dance. How many will be boomers singing We Built This City?
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Just heard about/saw Trump mocking the disabled reporter. How crude can you be? None of this should be surprising. Trump's just gone for a bit less dogwhistling than the standard candidate, and thus is getting huge support for "telling it like it is". A bunch of older WASPy losers are feeling left behind by society (they are, and it couldn't happen to a better group) and are acting out like spoiled children about it. I expect there to be more similar "populist" candidates in the future, and their level of restraint will diminish as they continue having less and less nation success. Considering Trump was talking about camping some Muslims last week, the comments about this reporter are sort of chump change. He hasn't gotten to the point were he's talking about doing similar stuff to other unfavored minorities (like LGBT people, disabled people, or athiests) but I give him a few weeks until that comes up. With the comments about the PP killer being transgendered, I'm expecting that sooner rather than later. rkajdi fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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