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Professor Bling
Nov 12, 2008

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
drat it, the launcher hangs when I try to upgrade the 32-bit beta, states my "client is too new" for the 64-bit beta, and does absolutely nothing when I hit play for the Horizons beta.

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Ferrovanadium
Mar 22, 2013

APEX PREDATOR

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Threadkiller Dog posted:

Wow, the Cobra MKIV was a disappointment. No internals upgrades to speak of, essentially a heavier MKIII with shorter legs and an extra small laser. :saddowns:

E: eeew, it's so slow! ~330 m/s boost

I thought it had an extra C2 hardpoint? That's an extra C1 instead? Dammit, Frontier. I guess I'll be sticking with my Asp Explorer instead.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Threadkiller Dog posted:

Wow, the Cobra MKIV was a disappointment. No internals upgrades to speak of, essentially a heavier MKIII with shorter legs and an extra small laser. :saddowns:

E: eeew, it's so slow! ~330 m/s boost

That disappointing but not surprising. If they made it amazing there would be so much crying.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

Threadkiller Dog posted:

Wow, the Cobra MKIV was a disappointment. No internals upgrades to speak of, essentially a heavier MKIII with shorter legs and an extra small laser. :saddowns:

E: eeew, it's so slow! ~330 m/s boost

Well I was expecting it but it still feels bad, it probably has more shields and armour but that still sucks :smith:

For some reason they aren't allowed to make any new multi role ships that are actually better than the Cobra => Asp => Clipper => Python progression.

Threadkiller Dog
Jun 9, 2010

YellerBill posted:

I thought it had an extra C2 hardpoint? That's an extra C1 instead? Dammit, Frontier. I guess I'll be sticking with my Asp Explorer instead.

Yeah, 3 small 2 medium hardpoints, but with the same old C3 distributor so no point to it honestly. Better convergence ofc

FSD, Thrusters are the same class as MKIII as well, but with some extra tonnage and a gutted max top speed (could be a bug? ~100m/s less seems extreme...). Some extra internals though

E: I am distraught, no black friday paintjobs yet

Threadkiller Dog fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Nov 30, 2015

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:
Looks like the head designer at Lakon ended up going to Faulcon DeLacy and designing the Cobra IV.
"What if we took the Cobra's main advantage, and took it away?" - former head designer at Lakon, head of the Type 7 project

KakerMix fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Nov 30, 2015

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
gently caress, I'm still getting "Server hasn't prepared installer: Unavailable"-errors when trying to start the beta-install.

That's it, I'm going back to play Dark Souls II instead. :mad:

Atoramos
Aug 31, 2003

Jim's now a Blind Cave Salamander!


I purchased E:D on Steam. Is it possible for me to receive the loyalty discount for Horizons? I don't see a way to actually pull that off.

Helter Skelter
Feb 10, 2004

BEARD OF HAVOC

Atoramos posted:

I purchased E:D on Steam. Is it possible for me to receive the loyalty discount for Horizons? I don't see a way to actually pull that off.
Buy it through the Frontier store.

Adult Sword Owner
Jun 19, 2011

u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

Atoramos posted:

I purchased E:D on Steam. Is it possible for me to receive the loyalty discount for Horizons? I don't see a way to actually pull that off.

You have to make a super special Frontier account to play, you log in their store with the same account and it knows you have ED already

Mercurius
May 4, 2004

Amp it up.

Atoramos posted:

I purchased E:D on Steam. Is it possible for me to receive the loyalty discount for Horizons? I don't see a way to actually pull that off.
You're eligible for it, the Frontier web store is badly designed and only shows you the discount once you've put the expansion in your cart and gone to checkout.

Sultan Tarquin
Jul 29, 2007

and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!
Is the 64bit client only part of the horizons beta?

Helter Skelter
Feb 10, 2004

BEARD OF HAVOC

Sultan Tarquin posted:

Is the 64bit client only part of the horizons beta?
Correct. The base game is 32-bit only, Horizons will be 64-bit only.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
OK, apparently the issue with the server not allowing the installer to run is a bit more problematic then I first thought. Dev posts say they're looking into causes now. Welp, have fun with the Horizons Beta while I steam in envy, you bastards.

TorakFade
Oct 3, 2006

I strongly disapprove


Threadkiller Dog posted:

Wow, the Cobra MKIV was a disappointment. No internals upgrades to speak of, essentially a heavier MKIII with shorter legs and an extra small laser. :saddowns:

E: eeew, it's so slow! ~330 m/s boost

I called it. drat, they had a chance to make it interesting, and they just make new ships kinda worse than the old ones. Why can't we have a nice multirole ship that I haven't been flying since the first month? :argh:

Electrophotonic
Mar 14, 2010

They're gonna stop
Saturday night
So you better have fun now
I PREDICT


^^ I feel your pain, and the Steam installer is not showing Horizons yet either

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

I thought Steam just opened Frontier's own launcher?

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007



Thanks. I was wondering if I was doing something wrong when most of the money I was making, outside of some smuggling missions, was from exploration data sales. I knew Frontier made everything grindy as gently caress but I didn't think it would be this bad. I was so confused how to make money trading because my dumb Sidewinder can only hold 4 cargo slots and I made a whopping 700 CR profit on Food Tablets. I've been holding off beelining to goonspace (it was my original goal) until someone talked me into 'enjoy the newbie bullshit levels for a bit' so that when I go bounty hunting with a goonwing I'll enjoy the money slingshot that much more.


This clears it up, thanks. I was wondering which faction ranking I needed to work on (Pilot Fed) and was getting confused by all the metagame politicky nonsense.

Atoramos
Aug 31, 2003

Jim's now a Blind Cave Salamander!


Adult Sword Owner posted:

You have to make a super special Frontier account to play, you log in their store with the same account and it knows you have ED already

Mercurius posted:

You're eligible for it, the Frontier web store is badly designed and only shows you the discount once you've put the expansion in your cart and gone to checkout.

Thanks, combined these were my issues

wjs5
Aug 22, 2009

tooterfish posted:

I thought Steam just opened Frontier's own launcher?

Found out if you go into the game folder for the launcher from steam and manually run the launcher it should show Horizons if your eligible.

Edit: So you dont have to download a new launcher

Sard
May 11, 2012

Certified Poster of Culture.




:swoon:

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Hav posted:

Test your main memory with memtest86+, not the thing that Windows ships with. - http://www.memtest.org/

Seriously, I had some intermittent video card problems, and it turned out that my RAM wasn't as overclock tolerant as it claimed - and that's overclock in terms of manufacturers recommended, rather than loving around with settings.

Thanks for the advice but I'm more an amateur (even though I do build my PC's) and don't overclock. :shrug:

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
Well at least the Cobra Mk IV looks cool :cabot:

grilldos
Mar 27, 2004

BUST A LOAF
IN THIS
YEAST CONFECTION
Grimey Drawer

I could gently caress in this.

xiansi
Jan 26, 2012

im judjing all goons cause they have bad leader, so a noral member is associated whith thoose crasy one

Personaly i would quit the goons if i was in cause of thoose crasy ppl
Clapping Larry

Bastard. Here's my exciting beta screenshot:


kalel
Jun 19, 2012


*creepy voice* seven daaays

Literally Kermit
Mar 4, 2012
t

grilldos posted:

I could gently caress in this.

gently caress, I could gently caress under this.

Anyone can give me the internal specs of the new cobra IV? Any different than the Mk III's 4/4/4/2/2/2?

JagGator
Oct 31, 2012

Rah! posted:

Kui 11 seems to be in a sweet spot in terms of distance from LFT 269, so most of the missions that show up on a bulletin board in Kui 11 will send you to LFT 269. So you often get multiple missions of the same kind, to the same place, everytime you refresh the bulletin board. There are other system pairs like that, but this is the best one I've found so far.

I prefer Arexe. Every single combat mission will be for neighboring Orrere, and Orrere is an anarchy system so you won't accidentally ring up any bounties and you can take the "kill traders/cops" missions in addition to the pirate ones.

Only downside is like LFT 269, Arexe is also Federation. I wish I could find an equivalent system for grinding Empire ranks via combat...

TorakFade
Oct 3, 2006

I strongly disapprove


So now that my hopes of a good Cobra Mk IV are crushed :frontear: I'll have to come up with new ideas for a multirole gently caress-around ship... something that can haul a rover, big jump range, decent cargo space and combat capabilities. I'm guessing the Asp is the best suited... it's the only one with enough internals to fit all the stuff I'd want (AFM, rover, 16+ cargo space, fuel scoop) and still be able to somehow fight and jump decent distances. Or the good ol' Cobra mk III ...

the thing I look forward to is having 90 ammo on the space shotgun. With the nerfs to energy weapons' ability to gently caress up hulls, the good old twin pulse laser Vulture will need a facelift: I was thinking about c3 beam + c3 cannon as has been suggested many times, but I think that with the Vulture's ability to glue itself to any other ship's rear end, a 90 ammo frag cannon could juuuust be what I need :getin:

froody guy
Jun 25, 2013

How big is the download?

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

Literally Kermit posted:

gently caress, I could gently caress under this.

Anyone can give me the internal specs of the new cobra IV? Any different than the Mk III's 4/4/4/2/2/2?

4/4/3/3/2/2

It’s got a boost to shields and one more small hardpoint, the same armor, and got poo poo on for speed and jump distance.

Literally Kermit
Mar 4, 2012
t

TorakFade posted:

So now that my hopes of a good Cobra Mk IV are crushed :frontear: I'll have to come up with new ideas for a multirole gently caress-around ship... something that can haul a rover, big jump range, decent cargo space and combat capabilities. I'm guessing the Asp is the best suited... it's the only one with enough internals to fit all the stuff I'd want (AFM, rover, 16+ cargo space, fuel scoop) and still be able to somehow fight and jump decent distances. Or the good ol' Cobra mk III ...

the thing I look forward to is having 90 ammo on the space shotgun. With the nerfs to energy weapons' ability to gently caress up hulls, the good old twin pulse laser Vulture will need a facelift: I was thinking about c3 beam + c3 cannon as has been suggested many times, but I think that with the Vulture's ability to glue itself to any other ship's rear end, a 90 ammo frag cannon could juuuust be what I need :getin:

You can squeeze a pretty good setup into an Imperial Courier: http://coriolis.io/outfit/imperial_courier/14A3A3A1A3A2A3C1b1b1b0m0200040202p5012o2f.Iw18UA==.Aw18UA==?bn=Horizons%20Imp

Sure wish I didn't have to waste so much space with a scanner AND the surface scanner, the surface scanner is kinda important now

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015













grilldos
Mar 27, 2004

BUST A LOAF
IN THIS
YEAST CONFECTION
Grimey Drawer

A few stills from my space porn where I am loving in the ship.

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coxLcs6UtyA

TorakFade
Oct 3, 2006

I strongly disapprove


Literally Kermit posted:

You can squeeze a pretty good setup into an Imperial Courier: http://coriolis.io/outfit/imperial_courier/14A3A3A1A3A2A3C1b1b1b0m0200040202p5012o2f.Iw18UA==.Aw18UA==?bn=Horizons%20Imp

Sure wish I didn't have to waste so much space with a scanner AND the surface scanner, the surface scanner is kinda important now

That's nice, except for the 2A prismatic, not going to waste precious time grinding powerplay for that. Even then with a standard 3A shield it can still fit 16 tons of cargo...but 16.6 ly jump range unladen with full tank is kinda lovely.

Anyways I already have an Asp, and I'm not that big on long-range exploration anymore (too time consuming), so I'll just A-rank it and see if that's good enough for bumbling around doing whatever, I still have the Vulture when I feel like kicking rear end or my Python cargo ship/mining barge for low risk money making.

They really should fill the gap between the 6 million Asp and the 20+ millions other ships though, for being a "do what you want" game there sure is not much choice in multirole ships, the jump from Asp to Clipper/Python is ridiculous (30 millions for a pretty much maxed Asp to 80 millions for a barebones Python / barely decent Clipper is crazy, we really need a multirole that can be maxed out with 50-60 millions...)

xiansi
Jan 26, 2012

im judjing all goons cause they have bad leader, so a noral member is associated whith thoose crasy one

Personaly i would quit the goons if i was in cause of thoose crasy ppl
Clapping Larry
While you lot enjoy your space porn, and I have a progress bar, I...actually went and touched the poop:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=204289

It's a whine of course, and like anything good will probably get nerfed to useless, but loving hell, it would be worth grinding up the rare metals for a +50% damage reload.

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015



And a first SRV gank..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CotKUpcLxyU

Dante80 fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Nov 30, 2015

Literally Kermit
Mar 4, 2012
t

TorakFade posted:

That's nice, except for the 2A prismatic, not going to waste precious time grinding powerplay for that. Even then with a standard 3A shield it can still fit 16 tons of cargo...but 16.6 ly jump range unladen with full tank is kinda lovely.

You really don't have to grind. You just join her for 4 weeks, gently caress off until the fourth week and grind to rank 3. It honestly doesn't take that long, and you get the only power play module worth a tin gently caress.

Prismatics are slightly powerful than if you used a shield a size above it, while freeing up the larger slot at the cost of extra weight and power.

And being interdicted by assholes constantly but that happens to me on a regular basis anyway

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TorakFade
Oct 3, 2006

I strongly disapprove


Literally Kermit posted:

You really don't have to grind. You just join her for 4 weeks, gently caress off until the fourth week and grind to rank 3. It honestly doesn't take that long, and you get the only power play module worth a tin gently caress.

Prismatics are slightly powerful than if you used a shield a size above it, while freeing up the larger slot at the cost of extra weight and power.

And being interdicted by assholes constantly but that happens to me on a regular basis anyway

I was pledged for a month, being constantly interdicted by assholes, and I couldn't bear it anymore, I left :smith: now I just don't care enough to wait another 4 weeks.

Anyway why are they making all new ships sidegrades at best, useless at worst? Only exception is the imperial eagle which is a straight upgrade from the normal eagle, and I wish they made the same for Viper and Cobra mk IV. Instead they're just slower than their predecessors, and have kinda minor advantages (1 more hardpoint and better grouping the cobra, less power issues and more space the viper)

Why can't we have ships that are BETTER than what we already had? Make them cost more, gate them behind ranks or whatever ... remember that they made hull variants of the Dropship because it was too lovely, slow and unfun and nobody used it, so why are they now taking the good ships and making hull variants ("upgrades" :v: ) that are shittier? :frontear::psyduck:

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