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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Robin is two years younger than the character of Batman. Captain America is twenty years older than the Avengers, and the difference is so huge that the reappearance of the character in the Avengers is like metafiction. Comics are very much metafiction. That's what makes them fun. At this point there have been more stories about Captain America being with the Avengers than there have been stories about him in his WWII days. If you think of Captain America and envision him being unconnected to the Avengers at all, well, I don't know what character you're thinking of but it's not the one who's been appearing in print and screen. Other than this, I suppose.
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Bugblatter posted:In GonSmithe's college professor analogy, Bifford was told he would have received a C on his essay. But then he was told he failed? In what world is a C a failing grade? That sums up what happened here.
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BrianWilly posted:The difference between Batman stories without Robin and Batman stories with Robin is also pretty huge, no matter how short the time frame between them. Hell, the difference between Batman stories without Robin and other Batman stories without Robin can be vast as well. So, aside from the times when he did have stories without the Avengers, like, the 20 years preceding the Avengers, he's never had stories without the Avengers.
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Dec 1, 2015 02:58
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A nightmare/hallucination scene seems like a weird thing to release out of context, but hey, I don't work in WB's marketing department.
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I hope Batman tries to headbutt him next.Snowman_McK posted:So, aside from the times when he did have stories without the Avengers, like, the 20 years preceding the Avengers, he's never had stories without the Avengers. BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Dec 1, 2015 03:07
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Equeen posted:
Batman v. Superman: Dawn Of Slashfiction.
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ImpAtom posted:Batman v. Superman: Dawn Of Slashfiction. I can already see the mountains of fan art and fanfic already...
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Barry Convex posted:A nightmare/hallucination scene seems like a weird thing to release out of context, but hey, I don't work in WB's marketing department. It's more memorable than another teaser of a hero punching anonymous goons or a big monster emerging.
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Dec 1, 2015 03:31
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Snowman_McK posted:It's more memorable than another teaser of a hero punching anonymous goons or a big monster emerging. Yep. I don't give a gently caress if it is a dream sequence or whatever, it looks cool and a little different for what is now very well-worn comic book movie territory.
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I love that Superman just slams into the ground when he lands, keeping that effect from Man of Steel.Equeen posted:I can already see the mountains of fan art and fanfic already... Between this and Civil War, it's like a cinematic gay super-orgy.
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The MSJ posted:I love that Superman just slams into the ground when he lands, keeping that effect from Man of Steel. Well now at least we know Batman secretly wants to be a bottom.
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Said it in the BSS thread already, but the BSS thread is terrible, so I'm gonna reiterate it here: I really like it! It's an attention-getter, that's for sure. Wish they could let Cavill do things in the trailers other than make sad or mad faces. Affleck looks really impressive as well.
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BiggerBoat posted:TDKR was a self contained reboot objectively incorrect. it's a send-off for pre-crisis batman, Year One is the reboot unless you mean the dark kngiht rises for some reason which makes no sense DKR is only a reboot in the sense that dc is idiots and keeps insisting there be sequels to this final story Black Bones posted:Which Suicide Squad members are immortal? I don't know any of them other than Harley and Croc literally just deadshot and that was because ostrander liked writing him
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Swillkitsch posted:Said it in the BSS thread already, but the BSS thread is terrible, so I'm gonna reiterate it here: I really like it! It's an attention-getter, that's for sure. Wish they could let Cavill do things in the trailers other than make sad or mad faces. There'll be a full trailer in a couple of days, so hopefully we'll see more of Cavill and Gadot. And, yeah, the BSS movie thread sucks.
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Literally The Worst posted:unless you mean the dark kngiht rises for some reason which makes no sense The Dark Knight Rises ends with a new Batman taking up the mantle for the first time. It's not a reboot but it completely ends with a "it could be restarted from here" kind of way.
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ImpAtom posted:The Dark Knight Rises ends with a new Batman taking up the mantle for the first time. It's not a reboot but it completely ends with a "it could be restarted from here" kind of way. i mean that makes more sense but also isn't a reboot
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I like how the biggest plot twist regarding that new scene would be if actually occurs in the movie. From the very start it seemed beyond obvious that that was all dream sequence stuff or whatever, but I think the trailers have been full of misdirection in general.
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Martman posted:I like how the biggest plot twist regarding that new scene would be if actually occurs in the movie. From the very start it seemed beyond obvious that that was all dream sequence stuff or whatever, but I think the trailers have been full of misdirection in general. If the reactions of my non comic reading family is any indication -they were intrigued about the how and why Superman had Batman chained-, being intentionally misdirecting is a reasonable tactic to build interest.
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Equeen posted:
I don't mean to play favorites, but gently caress I can't deny the work of Snyder/Fong. The visual aesthetic of that short clip alone trumps everything I saw in the Civil War trailer.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:If the reactions of my non comic reading family is any indication -they were intrigued about the how and why Superman had Batman chained-, being intentionally misdirecting is a reasonable tactic to build interest.
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teagone posted:I don't mean to play favorites, but gently caress I can't deny the work of Snyder/Fong. The visual aesthetic of that short clip alone trumps everything I saw in the Civil War trailer. If BvS doesn't feature a single dull gray parking garage or field of flat rooftops I will only be too happy.
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I really hope it's not a dream sequence because the idea of Batman dressing up in custom situational outfits for different types of missions he goes on is quite vitalizing to me. We're, like, three or four degrees from Batman in a spacesuit.
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  Jesus Christ I just watched that teaser trailer and holy gently caress it's so beautiful. 
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BrianWilly posted:I really hope it's not a dream sequence because the idea of Batman dressing up in custom situational outfits for different types of missions he goes on is quite vitalizing to me. We're, like, three or four degrees from Batman in a spacesuit. Have you seen Batman toys? There are Batsuits for everything. Underwater, desert, helicopter, space etc. There was even a suit for hacking computers.
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The MSJ posted:Have you seen Batman toys? There are Batsuits for everything. Underwater, desert, helicopter, space etc. There was even a suit for hacking computers. Batman toys are gloriously loving stupid. I'm pretty sure they hit peak stupid right after Batman Returns.
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teagone posted:I don't mean to play favorites, but gently caress I can't deny the work of Snyder/Fong. The visual aesthetic of that short clip alone trumps everything I saw in the Civil War trailer. I don't know what you are talking about.  
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Man of steel seemed like it was what nerds wanted but they all hated it 
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Uncle Wemus posted:Man of steel seemed like it was what nerds wanted but they all hated it When i saw superman returns my reaction was "God that was boring, nothing happened, superman didn't even punch anyone what a load of poo poo." When I saw man of steel my reaction was "Ughh too much cgi and punching, not enough characterization" I know i'm an idiot, but at least I can acknowledge it, that's a good thing right?
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Nerds want art, because they are human. But they are nerds, so they don't understand it. Luckily most nerds have about thirty years to come to their senses before the embrace of death, and popculture almost always comes around on stuff. I predict a sudden wave of people who get Man of Steel in a few years and it's gonna be sweet.
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Hbomberguy posted:I predict a sudden wave of people who get Man of Steel in a few years and it's gonna be sweet.
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I mean I know how dumb it is to say 'people will love this in ten years and I'm just ahead of the curb I KNOW IT' but I genuinely think it's one of those movies people will remember more fondly once we turn a corner in popculture. You've all probably noticed that a good deal of criticism of vs superman and so on has been coming from folks who see a divide between marvel and dc and are directly comparing them. Since Marvel is the big dominant movie franchise, being different from it looks like a failure to be a good franchise right now - hence all the weird articles that are totally obsessed with how DC is 'doing a cinematic universe wrong' and other complaints that seem totally unrelated to the fact they aren't even out yet. The instant people lose interest in marvel, the current yardstick for how you're supposed to make big movies, perspectives on a ton of other films will shift along with it.
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Kush posted:I don't know what you are talking about. I do like that they diced the hell out of that running clip because what on Earth was that doing in the teaser?
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Sense and Motion posted:
Like I get the idea, that they're a well oiled machine in lockstep, Captain America is a team member rather than a leader, but there's got to be a more interesting way to show that.
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Kush posted:I don't know what you are talking about. The monitor I'm on is kind of dark so I just saw Batman doing the V8 symbol from Mad Max instead of the chains. 
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I want to know who those goons chained up with Bats are.
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MacheteZombie posted:I want to know who those goons chained up with Bats are. Two thieves.
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I really don't expect a big change on Superman. It was relatively well regarded outside of a specific kind of comic fan or comic would-be fan. The biggest change I could see is BvS recontextualizing stuff that people disliked. It's already proven to be a film at least partially about the fact that Superman failed to save every life and how BvS deals with that will make people change how they look on MoS.
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MacheteZombie posted:I want to know who those goons chained up with Bats are. Other dissidents of Superman's reign. I assume it's a nightmare sequence from Batman's point of view where he views himself like a Christ-like figure trying to end Superman's evil rule, so he's being hung up and persecuted with two lowly criminals. It's like poetry, it rhymes with the first movie. In MOS, Superman was Christ without realizing it. In BvsS, Batman believes he is Christ. I'm sure this will all will also tie into the current conservative movement in US politics. HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Two thieves. Damnit!
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