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And so we were all permabanned after Lowtax got a visit from the RCMP.
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Cultural Imperial posted:Keep shilling and maybe bunnyofdoom will also fellate you Keep making GBS threads and maybe you'll be able to fellate yourself
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 19:19 |
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vyelkin posted:It's amazing how easily conservatives in the West fall for propaganda, whether produced by their own media or even the media of countries seen as their enemies. Putin's macho man image is a constructed facade to mask his own personal weaknesses because in Russia he's seen as effeminate due to his short stature and high-pitched voice. Hell, most Russians don't even fall for the image of Putin as basically a wrestler, but North American conservatives eat it up. Same with ISIS, their propaganda about how the West and Islam are incompatible and refugees could be terrorists in disguise and they're going to strike in Western capitals until the West invades them wouldn't be out of place on Fox News or the Sun.
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 19:19 |
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THC posted:They always were duped by the strongman branding and they always secretly liked Putin because of it, but they kept their mouths shut about it while Harper was still around reminding them that Russians are the bad guys. Not so much anymore. What's amazing about Putin is that he has a western cult on both sides. There's a lot of low-info "radical left" who love Putin because Putin is an enemy of the west and the west = evil neoliberal colonialism thus putin is good standing up to US and capitalist hegemony!
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 19:28 |
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Constant Hamprince posted:There's an almost complete absence of academic studies on the issue, but anecdotes of corruption on reserves are so widespread that it's difficult to dismiss as just a racist myth. But what the hell, might as well throw some more anecdotes on the pile... I have friends, family, and colleagues on coastal reservations but my knowledge doesn't extend inland past Hope. I'm not convinced that most of the corruption stories aren't the result of village political infighting and individuals taking advantage of situations to enrich themselves, similar to what you see with a small town mayor focusing on tourism aka driving business to his lodge. This is known as being a sharp businessman in some circles or a corrupt oligarch in others. I do know of one case that was your typical developer -> kickback-to-politicians scenario; people went to jail and a new band counsel was elected. Tracking federal program money has been a big problem. The programs are a treaty obligation but band members might not be arsed to take care of the mountain of paperwork that goes along with it. There can also be pushback from those taking the position that as a sovereign nation they have the right to tell federal bureaucrats to pound sand when they come asking for receipts. Doesn't mean the program isn't being delivered, but who knows? Internal politics can be quite vicious in these groups. Typical rural situation - there's drat few to fight with so you have to fight with your neighbours/cousins. Couple that with the hereditary power hierarchy coastal groups had and some of the historical disruptions over the last couple of centuries and you have a prime opportunity for sociopaths to blossom. Like our late, unlamented PM though they aren't necessarily corrupt, just complete bullying arseholes. The opposition though is going to scream corruption at every opportunity, along with other grievances. Some of these internal divisions go back to the smallpox plagues and the colonial powers abolishing slavery. In Haida Gwaii the nobles stayed in one village and the slaves moved north, and God help us if one of those northerners has an opinion now. Decimated is the wrong word for what happened during the plagues. Villages would have been doing well if they'd only lost every tenth person. Some lost up to 90% and the survivors ended up moving in with related villages but there's still a problem with "that person isn't the right flavour of _____". I think some members of Jody Wilson's family might have run into this since they were originally in Kynoc Inlet and moved down to Bella Bella. Older than that are the bad feelings still hanging around from the days of murder, rape, pillage, and slavery, all of which were very much a Thing on this coast. You can't trust that group because a hundred years ago they ambushed a boatload of our people in that channel and murdered them all. That intense distrust is still there, although intermarriage and economic development is reducing this somewhat. I have hope that eventually the fact that the Heiltsuk's ancestors murdered 400 distant relatives on a small island off Ladysmith will be no more relevant that what the Macdonalds did to some of my Scottish ancestors. tl;dr: Humans suck. Get back to me when the Fords, all of Quebec's construction industry, and 95% of their municipal politicians are in jail.
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 19:45 |
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There's a lot of people, of all ages, who still aren't able to understand that Russia is a gang-run failing/failed state with nuclear weapons and no economy, but rather think this is still the 1950's and the full might of the USSR is just lying dormant in Siberia. I blame the US for building up the mythos of Russia during the cold war, frankly. In the popular consciousness they are no longer a contemporary country but romanticized in a similar way as, say, Rome or Nazi Germany. Rime fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Cultural Imperial posted:Keep shilling and maybe bunnyofdoom will also fellate you Buy me dinner first sweetheart.
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 19:48 |
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Hmm yes of only you treated your constituents to dinner before humiliating then online for the 'lulz'
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 20:01 |
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Cultural Imperial posted:faaaaaaaaart You are adorable.
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 20:03 |
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Baronjutter posted:What's amazing about Putin is that he has a western cult on both sides. There's a lot of low-info "radical left" who love Putin because Putin is an enemy of the west and the west = evil neoliberal colonialism thus putin is good standing up to US and capitalist hegemony! what, really? He's a corporatiste oligarchical authoritarian, he's basically a krystal nacht equivalent from being a full blown Nazi. gently caress me, any 'leftist' praising him should be first against the wall.
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:what, really? He's a corporatiste oligarchical authoritarian, he's basically a krystal nacht equivalent from being a full blown Nazi. gently caress me, any 'leftist' praising him should be first against the wall. So, Carlos Latuff?
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 20:46 |
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:what, really? He's a corporatiste oligarchical authoritarian, he's basically a krystal nacht equivalent from being a full blown Nazi. gently caress me, any 'leftist' praising him should be first against the wall. Gay isn't illegal in Russia! It's not that bad! They just aren't allowed to be gay in public, where kids might see. Perfectly fine, right?!!
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Melian Dialogue posted:Jesus christ, this is so true. His recent stunt in the Middle East has gotten Putin all of the rage across social media, but its part of their strategic communications strategy (look at Russia Today and the amount of leftist-appealing stories they have, hell I had a Poli Sci professor in University show us a video from RT about some American conspiracy theory about posse comitatus). See, Putin is a "badass" who is actually "doing something" about ISIS (except for the fact that 95% of the bombing runs are targeting non-ISIS groups) while the West's liberal cowards refuse to do anything but send hugs and kisses. Also Ukraine has been taken over by NATO sponsored Fascists so all true leftists and progressives should be cheering on Russia liberating the country. Putin is really really popular with a lot of old school radical left who think it's still the 60's. Basically all the left wing german political parties and groups for instance are hard core putin/russia apologists for instance. They never of course talk about why russia is good, it's only why the US is bad. Why do I support putin? Let me tell you about all the civilian deaths the US caused in their illegal war for oil in iraq! Let me rant about neo-liberalism and corporate colonialism! The US is racist! This is why we must support Putin! I'm not even making poo poo up or exaggerating in any way, huge leftist groups all over the world cheer for or at least bend over backwards to apologize or downplay anything Russia/Putin does. RT plays to these groups really well, constantly running conspiracy theories as news stories, painting Russia as the lone voice on the world stage that can stand up to the neo-liberal conspiracy. They don't even have to say why russia is better, just that the US/West is bad thus the opposing side must be better.
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 21:05 |
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One of my CompSci profs made us watch a Jesse Ventura video "Pretty out-there but he makes a lot of good points! It's good to hear from all perspectives, just something for you guys to think about~"
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Melian Dialogue fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Feb 2, 2016 |
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I had some pretty amazing computer science profs who inspired me to explore and learn about a number of subjects that I really enjoyed
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 21:15 |
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Baronjutter posted:Also Ukraine has been taken over by NATO sponsored Fascists so all true leftists and progressives should be cheering on Russia liberating the country. I just can't shake the feeling that most of that sentiment online is fostered by aggressive Russian PR offensives on social media sites. They might even surpass Israel on that front since it's so easy for them to get a bunch of (i like the term) "low-information" liberals white knighting them.
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 21:15 |
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THC posted:One of my CompSci profs made us watch a Jesse Ventura video Was it Predator? He makes some pretty good points about Tyrannosaurus in that movie.
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 21:17 |
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gently caress computer science you guys go to bcit instead
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 21:27 |
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I had some really pretty good profs but that guy was something else. He was obsessed with conspiracy theories, said we shouldn't take climate science seriously because computer models are sometimes bad, claimed to have worked for the JPL and that he once met Ronald Reagan. Entertaining but generally pretty unpleasant.
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 21:31 |
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cowofwar posted:People recently like Putin because he took a dump on refugees and told them that Russia doesn't need them etc. Isn't Russia going through a massive depopulation after decades of a sub-replacement birth rate? Seems like they could use all the young people they could get their hands on. But even more importantly: Putin may be project himself as a shirtless cowboy bear wrestler, but is Justin Trudeau the only world leader with a tattoo?
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THC posted:I had some really pretty good profs but that guy was something else. He was obsessed with conspiracy theories, said we shouldn't take climate science seriously because computer models are sometimes bad, claimed to have worked for the JPL and that he once met Ronald Reagan. Entertaining but generally pretty unpleasant. I am 95% confident you are referring to Pearce.
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 21:57 |
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tagesschau posted:Why does OPSEU want Patrick Brown to be premier? He's all worked up about Bill 109. I'm with Wynne on this one. You can pick your nose, you can pick your friends but you can't pick your union. http://nupge.ca/content/12389/opseu-condemns-proposed-labour-law-changes-calls-all-unions-fight-back posted:Merger votes occur when two or more unions represent employees working for a single employer. The employer can make an application to the Ontario Labour Relations Board to have the employees decide which of the competing unions should represent them.
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Coolwhoami posted:I am 95% confident you are referring to Pearce.
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THC posted:Yeah, him. I had some v good profs though, one of them made us work in a team for the whole semester because being able to communicate and work with others is way more important IRL than "beep boop best algorithm". He strongly encouraged people to take non-STEM electives. The week Jobs died he gave us a big rant about how labour built those products and gets almost no credit (or monetary compensation for that matter) Heh. He's changed his mind on the climate change thing, and if you get to know him you learn quickly he likes conspiracy stuff because how far out they can go. Great guy to get beers with. Ikantski posted:He's all worked up about Bill 109. I'm with Wynne on this one. You can pick your nose, you can pick your friends but you can't pick your union. This can't be abused at all!
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# ? Dec 1, 2015 22:13 |
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LIVES IN A MANSION FOR FREE..... Harper paid taxes? Apparently he let it all go to hell? Also, arent tax payers paying his income anyways?
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tbf with a salary of $33,000 a year he can't afford nannies
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-e- Nvm I feel dumb
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Coolwhoami posted:Heh. He's changed his mind on the climate change thing, and if you get to know him you learn quickly he likes conspiracy stuff because how far out they can go. Great guy to get beers with.
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I Spent the Day with Albertan Conservatives Who Think We Are ‘Generation Screwed’quote:Generation Screwed, a nine-hour conference organized by the Canadian Taxpayer Federation intended "to inform and mobilize young Canadians who want to save their economic future." While trudging through Calgary's lovely excuse for a winter on my way to catch an even shittier excuse for public transit, I considered what it might mean to be a member of "Generation Screwed." Perhaps it had to do with the rabid planned obsolescence that denied my phone's battery the ability to simultaneously listen to Grimes and send a text to my mom. Or maybe it referenced the fact that, like most of my friends, I've never held a salaried position longer than a few months. Could Generation Screwed be a shout-out to catastrophic climate change that will very likely destroy any semblance of ordered life by the end of the century? I had to find out. Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Baronjutter posted:What's amazing about Putin is that he has a western cult on both sides. There's a lot of low-info "radical left" who love Putin because Putin is an enemy of the west and the west = evil neoliberal colonialism thus putin is good standing up to US and capitalist hegemony! Oh yeah I forgot about those types. From what I've seen it goes back to the fact that RT is one of a few mainstream news outlets that covered Occupy in the way its supporters wanted it to be covered. Of course, that was mostly because RT likes to portray the US in the worst light possible, but broken clock and all that. From there it grew into "the West are racist fascist colonial corporate nazis and Russia opposes them so Russia must be good "
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Baronjutter posted:Also Ukraine has been taken over by NATO sponsored Fascists so all true leftists and progressives should be cheering on Russia liberating the country. I know exactly what you mean and deal with it from my parents constantly. On the other hand, a lot of the anti-Russian/Putin sentiment I see is also annoying and excessive. The "US is bad argument" makes sense up until a fine point; if you criticize Russia for action x, then the US doing action x all the time makes them as bad or worse. At least that's how it starts. However there is very rarely any nuance here; in actual discussions its basically either Russia is always right or Russia is always wrong.
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Count Roland posted:I know exactly what you mean and deal with it from my parents constantly. On the other hand, a lot of the anti-Russian/Putin sentiment I see is also annoying and excessive. The "US is bad argument" makes sense up until a fine point; if you criticize Russia for action x, then the US doing action x all the time makes them as bad or worse. At least that's how it starts. However there is very rarely any nuance here; in actual discussions its basically either Russia is always right or Russia is always wrong. Putin is the dick in the "dicks, pussies and assholes" speech from Team America: World Police at the moment. That's why people admire him/Russia at the moment; no other reason.
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Vintersorg posted:
I dunno, sounds like job creation for two people to me. Should have had this during the Harper regime so we could have avoided the national embarrassment of under-age alcohol poisoning at 24 Sussex.
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Vintersorg posted:
He only makes $33 000 per year? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit no wonder he needs those nannies, he's probably holding a second job at Timmies.
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Constant Hamprince posted:What I meant is that the government shouldn't impose a change in the system on native peoples (and won't, because it doesn't care). I think the increase in engagement among first nations people that we saw during the latest federal election is a step in the right direction. It's the government's fault that things are the way it is and I don't think it's the victim's 'responsibility' to push for change, but it's something that people need to agitate for if systemic change is going to happen. Actually the government did impose a change on the governance system of First Nations recently (and has many times in the past). It was called the First Nations Financial Transparency Act and was passed in 2012. The bill was championed by the Canadian Taxpayers Foundation and the CPC, and relied on racist imagery of corrupt chiefs to impose stricter auditing standards on First Nations communities than any Canadian community. The general idea was that the problems on reserves are due to corruption, rather than long term government underfunding and broken treaty obligations. The Transparency Act was widely opposed by First Nations communities, as they already face strict auditing rules, and yet the government passed it anyway. In fact the government passed a number of bills (housing, education) that directly changed the way First Nations communities operated that were all opposed by the actual communities. This despite the Canadian government having a treaty obligation to consult with First Nations. That you insist on holding onto a negative stereotype of a minority group without definitive evidence that it is incorrect is pretty much what racism is. It doesn't have to be malicious. Most of the anecdotes your thinking of likely come from the campaign in support of the Transparency Act (and were largely manufactured or spun by either the CPC or the CTF. But anyway, for some data. The average salary for an elected First Nations representative is $36,000 quote:While any abuse or misspending is wrong, with 3,297 First Nation elected officials in Canada, it must be pointed out that this is absolutely not the norm as the CTF would suggest. The vast majority of First Nation elected officials are simply trying to earn a decent standard of living – just like most Canadians – and working very hard in the process. Rather than acknowledge this, the CTF issued its release relying upon the following opening statement: Second, the Auditor General found that First Nations governments in Canada already face some of the most onerous financial auditing rules in the world. quote:In 2002, we looked at the amount of reporting required of First Nations by federal organizations. We estimated that four federal organizations together required about 168 reports annually from each First Nations reserve. We found that many of the reports were unnecessary and were not in fact used by the federal organizations. We followed up on this issue in 2006. At that time, we found that federal departments had made little progress on meeting our recommendations to reduce reporting requirements. In our 2006 follow-up audit, we reported that INAC’s officials told us that the Department obtained more than 60,000 reports a year from over 600 First Nations communities. The Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat analyzed the extent of federal involvement with First Nations and confirmed the seriousness of the problem we had identified in 2002. 168 reports a year! And nobody in the government reads them. All this data is available to members of any reserve. The argument that you are making, that positive change in First Nations communities is prevented by corruption is wrong and is driven by racism. The federal government has not been providing enough funding for these communities to build and maintain infrastructure, to provide education, to provide clean water. The government has a vested interest in turning the blame on First Nations themselves, which is exactly why bills like the First Nations Transparency Act get introduced. And the Canadian public is all too willing to buy in. "We can't give them anymore money, they'll just waste it". "They need to agitate for change from within before any change will come, until then more money won't help". It's racist, and you need to admit that, if only to yourself. The problem isn't corruption, it's under funding, and only the government of Canada can solve the funding problem. e: also there are 617 reserves in Canada, so unless you have a hell of a lot of anecdotes it is pretty ridiculous to make any claims about First Nations in general. Almost like it would be stereotyping to do so. Duck Rodgers fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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Coolwhoami posted:I am 95% confident you are referring to Pearce. sup fellow SFU goer Pearce once called the entirety of the tech-support staff at the downtown campus assholes over their shared radios inadvertently
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Apologies for dissapearing midway through a huge discussion I helped to instigate but I've been a bit swamped with work recently. I just wanted to check in and assure people I'll be back and posting long, verbose walls of text any day now. As a CI fan who hasn't enjoyed his 2014-2015 output as much I feel like I need to take a moment to say after reading through the last few pages that it's nice to see Cultural Imperial back in fighting form, ramming home the hard truths our Maple Syrup-sodden brains don't want to accept. I know some of you find him hard to take sometimes. My advice is that you just imagine everything he posts is being spoken by Matthew McConaughey in True Detective:
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Debate & Discussion: The Problem Attic › Canadian Politics: I'm kinda jacking off at the prospect of you being financially ruined tbh... Canadians are human garbage.
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