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Talmonis posted:Aren't special forces raids and air strikes the most effective counter-terror methods to date? Seems like this would be rather relevant to the current strategy. Pretty much, the US Army and Marines are not really equipped nor able to fight a very effective anti-guerrilla campaign, and having a standing army just gives ISIS/AQ targets. Not like we'd want the US Army or Marines tied up in Syria anyways.
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Gravel Gravy posted:If that's the definition anyone wants to go with then they will find a good lot of boots in unexpected places. Yes, most people don't realize we have hundreds of bases around the globe. They wouldn't approve if they were able to learn it.
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SedanChair posted:Yes, most people don't realize we have hundreds of bases around the globe. They wouldn't approve if they were able to learn it. The internet exists for most Americans. Knowing someone in the armed forces makes up for the rest. Come on buddy.
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SedanChair posted:Yes, most people don't realize we have hundreds of bases around the globe. They wouldn't approve if they were able to learn it. Dude, its not some secret. You're acting like there's huge barriers to figuring out America has troops everywhere. Go to a parade for christ sake. The isolationist section of America isn't the majority, but does exist I will grant you that. However, the isolationists rarely have led this country is good directions.
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Doctor Butts posted:I loving hate that poo poo. I get what you're feeling. It's this whole suspicious mentality that creates in their minds a "us vs them" mentality. Suddenly, despite the fact that Obama hasn't taken away my guns and Syrian Refugee terrorist shiara law hasn't implemented cap-and-trade in America, you just know they will and nothing will change your mind. The Freepers thread is a good containment ground to see how these people act when their in their safe space.
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SedanChair mean mentally able, i.e. not so lazy they never bother learning things.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Enter: Barack Obama, circa 2013: It looks dumb, but special operations have never been considered "boots on the ground."
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"Boots on the ground" is a general term for combat troops deployed as a brigade or larger. Special Ops teams are much, much smaller and have a completely different mission than combat troops. This isn't some closely held military secret.
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SedanChair posted:It wasn't "nuance" when Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson did it, it was lying. It's lying now. People don't want any troops in the Middle East and Obama and the Pentagon are conspiring to deceive them. Oh they will absolutely want troops in the ME whenever the next terrorist attack happens.
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Trabisnikof posted:, the isolationists rarely have led this country is good directions. Yeah the imperialists did much better.
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zoux posted:Yeah the imperialists did much better. Washington was a believer in South Park politics on this one
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Unzip and Attack posted:"Boots on the ground" is a general term for combat troops deployed as a brigade or larger. I dunno maybe any spy found in a country should be treated as a ground invasion by a foreign army. Let's article 5 this poo poo into the ground.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:The big news of the month is likely to be the COP21 conference in Paris this month. Don't expect climate change to be solved. Even if Americans want action, Republicans have vowed to do everything in their power to keep polluting. Yeah but... but... DAMMIT. This pisses me off. LITERALLY EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD WANTS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS poo poo YOU DUNDERFUCKS.
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hobbesmaster posted:Plan B and other hormonal contraceptives being abortifacients is the view of many evangelicals. I know, but they don't limit themselves to just those things. 2014 Texas GOP platform posted:School Health Care- We urge legislators to prohibit reproductive health care services, including counseling, referrals, and distribution of condoms and contraception through public schools. We support the parents’ right to choose, without penalty, which medications are administered to their minor children. We oppose medical clinics on school property except higher education and health care for students without parental consent. Link
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https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/3uzz8n/til_that_in_1965_25_of_all_black_families_in_the/ This kind of poo poo is completely indistinguishable from Stormfront, at this point, except with less use of "friend of the family" and "dindu". I really feel like we're going to reach some sort of critical mass of racism soon; I wasn't alive in the 50s, but the rhetoric seems eerily familiar and scarily prevalent.
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Fried Chicken posted:Carrier groups: not a significant about of force  As has been noted by others, special forces guys are not "boots on the ground".Talmonis posted:Aren't special forces raids and air strikes the most effective counter-terror methods to date? Seems like this would be rather relevant to the current strategy. Some examples of recent special forces actions: special forces called down airstrikes on Sinjar from the behind the lines while local Peshmerga forces, Yazidi militia forces, and even a few PKK fighters moved in afterwards. The special forces guys were there to handle airstrikes, not to fight on the front lines like regular Army troops would do. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/12/world/middleeast/isis-iraq-syria.html?_r=0 quote:The American-led coalition has also provided the pesh merga with a large number of small arms, including machine guns, rifles, mortar tubes and mortar rounds. As the Sinjar offensive has approached, Kurdish officials say, the coalition has been rushing in new supplies of ammunition as well. Another example was the joint US-Kurdish raid on ISIL's prison in Hawija: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/25/video-released-us-kurdish-rescue-operation-iraq-isis-hawija We rescued 70 prisoners who had already had a mass grave dug for their execution. One special forces guy (Master Sgt. Joshua Wheeler) was injured during the raid and later died from his injuries. It's sad, but his sacrifice saved the lives of 70 people who would have certainly been executed by ISIL. We finished the raid by blasting the prison out of existence with airstrikes. Those are the type of special forces actions that Obama is talking about, and so Obama is saying we're going to be doing more stuff like the prison raid. fade5 fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Radbot posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/3uzz8n/til_that_in_1965_25_of_all_black_families_in_the/ Reddit has gotten really really bad over the past few months. Look at any article on refugees and the comment section is just horrific.
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Radbot posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/3uzz8n/til_that_in_1965_25_of_all_black_families_in_the/ quote:Really though, we breed dogs for desirable traits. Surely it's possible with people quote:Its still accepted science, just not accepted policy. quote:Um, it's still accepted science.. It's just kinda hosed up so we aren't allowed to talk about its potential benefits. The world would be a better place.
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FCKGW posted:Reddit has gotten really really bad over the past few months. Look at any article on refugees and the comment section is just horrific. Was 4chan ever balanced in terms of opinion or was it always a hotbed of racist white angst? I'm simply wondering if that's the fate of all message boards at this point, with a notable counterexample being this one, but we fall into left wing irrelevancy.
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Jeb communications director Tim Miller asking the tough questions
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Should we be expecting a new patriot act this month? Or will the lesser crisis compared to 9/11 allow cooler heads to prevail?
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Grey Fox posted:This was on the front page as well: https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/3v06yg/til_teddy_roosevelt_said_i_wish_very_much_that/  Jesus flying gently caress.
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Reddit has been bad for much longer than that.
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FCKGW posted:Reddit has Now it's accurate. Don't act surprised that it's full of that poo poo
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Logikv9 posted:Reddit has been bad for much longer than that. It's actually people, I'm afraid.
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zoux posted:It's actually people, I'm afraid. If only there was a solution for such things...
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Logikv9 posted:Reddit has been bad for much longer than that. I'm ashamed to admit I've been active on Reddit for five years or so, and I can definitely say it hasn't always been this bad.
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Phone posting, but can someone reply with that Onion article about that?
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zoux posted:It's actually people, I'm afraid. This is what worries me. When so much of the American public straight up hates muslims and "muslim sympathizers" (Thanks heavily armed Texas lunatic militia!), what are the rest of us supposed to do to stop it? Can it be stopped?
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Talmonis posted:This is what worries me. When so much of the American public straight up hates muslims and "muslim sympathizers" (Thanks heavily armed Texas lunatic militia!), what are the rest of us supposed to do to stop it? Can it be stopped? Whatever you do don't read about European history from the period of 1933-1945.
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Radbot posted:I'm ashamed to admit I've been active on Reddit for five years or so, and I can definitely say it hasn't always been this bad. Yeah, seriously. Something fundamentally changed around the firing of Ellen Pao and the whole rhetoric around that. I think a lot of the more moderate users just got fed up with all the poo poo being pushed to the front page around that time, all the people who flooded the entire site with posts about Ellen Pao, FatPeopleHate and all the "Chimpire" stuff being banned. Those users left and never came back. Also since Pao got canned, a lot of the more vocal shitheads on Reddit felt vindicated because they got what they want and now they feel like they can just run the place and put up any garbage they want. What I'm saying is that Reddit has always been a garbage fire but ever since the shitstorm earlier this year things have gotten much, much worse.
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Radbot posted:I'm ashamed to admit I've been active on Reddit for five years or so, and I can definitely say it hasn't always been this bad. The admins tried to ignore the problem and let it take root instead of stomping it out right away. It wasn't until there was a full fledged network of racist subreddits which straight up called itself the "chimpire" with a hundred thousand users that they decided to take action.
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zoux posted:Whatever you do don't read about European history from the period of 1933-1945. I'm unfortunately extremely well versed in the subject (I've even met Elie Wiesel!). Thus my serious concern with recent politics.
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Zombie Samurai posted:Wait... what? Checked Drudge Report recently? (It's not true.)
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FCKGW posted:Yeah, seriously. Something fundamentally changed around the firing of Ellen Pao and the whole rhetoric around that. I think a lot of the more moderate users just got fed up with all the poo poo being pushed to the front page around that time, all the people who flooded the entire site with posts about Ellen Pao, FatPeopleHate and all the "Chimpire" stuff being banned. Those users left and never came back. Also since Pao got canned, a lot of the more vocal shitheads on Reddit felt vindicated because they got what they want and now they feel like they can just run the place and put up any garbage they want. 
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Vienna Circlejerk posted:So you're saying Obama is a liar because he sent ground forces to Iraq two years after he said he wouldn't send them to Syria. Does this mean you've accepted the legitimacy of the Islamic State? Delta Force has 10 letters, Death Panel has 10 letters. Both of them supposedly kill conservative religious folks.  edit: Oh, and The Revenant looks loving badass and is based off a super badass true story and everyone should go see it.
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