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Dec 1, 2015 22:27
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Thump! posted:Nah, I've got two brothers in the Army (anecdotal, granted). They'd be just dandy with tossing all of the Muslims in America into internment camps. Most of the Marines I knew are the same way. I'm trying to find the Pew article I read earlier in the year, but I believe it fell something like the most liberal branch was the Navy with a 48%/52% Lib/Con split and the worst was the Army with a 35%/65% split with the Air Force not far behind. Marines were surprisingly liberal mainly because there is a comparatively high percentage of minorities but still fell way behind the Navy.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:28
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MaxxBot posted:The big difference I see between those groups is visibility, American Muslims just aren't as visible as those other groups and I think that's why people feel free to otherize them in such a callous manner. It was exactly the same for gays and to the extent it has improved it's mostly in areas where the LGBT community has achieved more visibility. Uh, not to belabor the obvious, but it's also an ideological/cultural/religious commitment rather than an inborn characteristic and is currently associated with multiple highly-visible organizations that are inimical to western civil society/culture (and whose hostility is openly claimed to be based on those groups' interpretations of Islam).
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Dec 1, 2015 22:29
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a shameful boehner posted:Al-Jazeera America? Conservatives: "A MUSLIM News Group?!?!"
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Dec 1, 2015 22:30
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AlternateNu posted:I'm trying to find the Pew article I read earlier in the year, but I believe it fell something like the most liberal branch was the Navy with a 48%/52% Lib/Con split and the worst was the Army with a 35%/65% split with the Air Force not far behind. Marines were surprisingly liberal mainly because there is a comparatively high percentage of minorities but still fell way behind the Navy. Sounds about right, though I would've pegged the Evangelical Corporation that is the US Air Force to be the most conservative, but hey  .We're all lovely in our own way I guess 
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Dec 1, 2015 22:30
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CommieGIR posted:The Navy.....has its share. Don't be fooled. He got another, ended up keeping it in a storage space he had a key to that most couldn't get to. I never saw him pull it from there to use though.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:31
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theshim posted:So what would you guys qualify as being passable, out of curiosity? Not good, because I know we can find ways to rail against literally every single reporter in the world, but what provides a reasonable amount of substance these days? Individual twitter accounts of reporters I know to be good. But basically there is no one unequivocally "good" news source. You just have to be able to discriminate between good and bad reporting, data and presentation. A good rule of thumb is that if what you are reading confirms everything you believe about yourself and everything you believe about the other side, find another source to corroborate it.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:32
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Fried Chicken posted:We had a Muslim guy in our department. Some of the more vehement right wingers (going by what they post to Facebook now) decided to throw his prayer rug overboard  The problem is the Conservatives in the Armed Forces tend to be the higher ranking individuals more often than not.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:33
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a shameful boehner posted:Al-Jazeera America? Apropos of nothing, I was very surprised to see advertisements for this network during the WWE Monday broadcast. Seems like a very interesting demo for them to go after, to say the least.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:35
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Frabba posted:Apropos of nothing, I was very surprised to see advertisements for this network during the WWE Monday broadcast. Seems like a very interesting demo for them to go after, to say the least. Hulkamaniacs are crazy about political news outside the mainstream with a strong emphasis on foreign policy, brother.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:36
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The new media message by the way is that Rosa Parks was a god-fearing Republican because she was fighting against racist Democrats.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:40
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LGD posted:Uh, not to belabor the obvious, but it's also an ideological/cultural/religious commitment rather than an inborn characteristic and is currently associated with multiple highly-visible organizations that are inimical to western civil society/culture (and whose hostility is openly claimed to be based on those groups' interpretations of Islam). It's the second coming of the Red Scare, complete with armed morons threatening to "stop them" but with actual "Reds" (read: Muslims) to target and harass this time instead of simply inferring that anyone who disagrees with their right wing bullshit as one.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:42
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Talmonis posted:It's the second coming of the Red Scare, complete with armed morons threatening to "stop them" but with actual "Reds" (read: Muslims) to target and harass this time instead of simply inferring that anyone who disagrees with their right wing bullshit as one. And this time around, the GOP likes the Russians  For all the wrong reasons.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:43
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Fried Chicken posted:We had a Muslim guy in our department. Some of the more vehement right wingers (going by what they post to Facebook now) decided to throw his prayer rug overboard  One team one fight, eh?CommieGIR posted:
Usually. My last 1st Sgt at my reserve unit was an ultra liberal postman from Jersey, which was the most shocking thing in the world to me after the last several I had dealt with. My favorite was probably the one who would rant continuously about how gays would be the fall of the USMC, similar to the decadent destruction of Rome or whatever.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:43
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Talmonis posted:It's the second coming of the Red Scare, complete with armed morons threatening to "stop them" but with actual "Reds" (read: Muslims) to target and harass this time instead of simply inferring that anyone who disagrees with their right wing bullshit as one. Third. We've had two red scares already.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:44
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Thump! posted:Usually. My last 1st Sgt at my reserve unit was an ultra liberal postman from Jersey, which was the most shocking thing in the world to me after the last several I had dealt with. My favorite was probably the one who would rant continuously about how gays would be the fall of the USMC, similar to the decadent destruction of Rome or whatever. Ours was a guy who started preaching about how the holy land proves that the Bible is true and that I was going to hell for believing in Evolution. Thump! posted:My favorite was probably the one who would rant continuously about how gays would be the fall of the USMC, similar to the decadent destruction of Rome or whatever. I wonder if he has a Molon Labe flag and rants about Spartans 
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Dec 1, 2015 22:45
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 Oh dear. (Yes, it's real.)
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Dec 1, 2015 22:45
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Sure is weird that every good person in American history was a good person that stood up to unjust authority and the current ones are such poo poo fuckers that force everyone else to do what they want.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:46
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Third. We've had two red scares already. Looks like you're correct. Also, holy poo poo Joe McCarthy looks like Ted Cruz pre-melted face.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:46
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Radish posted:Sure is weird that every good person in American history was a good person that stood up to unjust authority and the current ones are such poo poo fuckers that force everyone else to do what they want. Conservatives can't be on the right side of history by definition. They always lose in the long run.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:47
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Luigi Thirty posted:
Is it bad when Google does it?
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Dec 1, 2015 22:48
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CommieGIR posted:Ours was a guy who started preaching about how the holy land proves that the Bible is true and that I was going to hell for believing in Evolution. Eh, he was a hardcore biker douchebag. So yes.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:50
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Trabisnikof posted:Is it bad when Google does it? No, because Google isn't exploiting the image of a dead person for political points.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:51
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Y'all keep telling me Rubio is supposed to be the sane, moderate Republican with crossover appeal for young people and Democrats."Source posted:“We are biblically ordered not to be afraid,” Rubio said. “You know why? Because God is telling us that no matter what happens, ‘It is part of my plan. I will give you the strength to endure it whether you like it or not.'” Will evangelicals eat this poo poo up or does the theological problem of evil not apply to 9/11 et al?
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Dec 1, 2015 22:51
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Talmonis posted:Looks like you're correct. Also, holy poo poo Joe McCarthy looks like Ted Cruz pre-melted face. Well if we're really lucky (we're not), their stories will have similar endings. Radish posted:Sure is weird that every good person in American history was a good person that stood up to unjust authority and the current ones are such poo poo fuckers that force everyone else to do what they want. 
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Dec 1, 2015 22:51
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Joementum posted:A marble bust of former Vice President Dick Cheney will be unveiled Thursday in the Capitol.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:52
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Luigi Thirty posted:
God, Clinton is really so lucky that she is up against the GOP Klownpanzer. Sure, she has really done good at showing she is quite capable and politically adept, but her attempts to reach out to the more left part of the base feels so much like pandering.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:52
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Luigi Thirty posted:No, because Google isn't exploiting the image of a dead person for political points. Just for $$$, which makes it ok, got it.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:52
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CommieGIR posted:The Navy.....has its share. Don't be fooled. The Coast Guard is a different breed, since they are largely enforcement and rescue. My father was a 30-year man in the Navy, retired as an O-4, and he says the level of proselytizing especially while at sea went from 0 to 60 in his last 15 or so years. Frabba posted:Apropos of nothing, I was very surprised to see advertisements for this network during the WWE Monday broadcast. Seems like a very interesting demo for them to go after, to say the least. Probably a channel buy. Strange that they couldn't sell all the slots on a WWE show, then again it is football season. Gynocentric Regime fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Dec 1, 2015 22:53
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Talmonis posted:It's the second coming of the Red Scare, complete with armed morons threatening to "stop them" but with actual "Reds" (read: Muslims) to target and harass this time instead of simply inferring that anyone who disagrees with their right wing bullshit as one. It's not like we haven't had multiple previous waves of nativist concern over immigrants and their religious beliefs, why make extremely strained parallels to the Red Scare(s) when there are much more apt historical comparisons? 
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Dec 1, 2015 22:54
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Why does God need a throne, anyway? You'd think he'd be more comfortable on his clouds where angels comb his luxuriant white hair and beard and the seraphim apply generous moisturizer to keep his white skin smooth and welcoming
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Dec 1, 2015 22:54
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Riosan posted:Y'all keep telling me Rubio is supposed to be the sane, moderate Republican with crossover appeal for young people and Democrats. Now let me tell you about killing all Muslims. e: a shameful boehner posted:Why does God need a throne, anyway? You'd think he'd be more comfortable on his clouds where angels comb his luxuriant white hair and beard and the seraphim apply generous moisturizer to keep his white skin smooth and welcoming
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Dec 1, 2015 22:55
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Riosan posted:Y'all keep telling me Rubio is supposed to be the sane, moderate Republican with crossover appeal for young people and Democrats. Rubio is like W., where he is able to put forth the image of being a truly Christian man who at least is compassionate about others while conservative. He's not a culture warrior like Huckabee or Santorum, just a religious guy. At the same time, the way that Rubio and Jeb are the moderates is really just a sign of how loving insane the Republicans have gotten.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:56
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Trabisnikof posted:Just for $$$, which makes it ok, got it. This is like complaining about car dealers dressing up as presidents for Presidents' Day sales. American society is much more forgiving of corporate shamelessness than political shamelessness. You're probably right that both should be upsetting.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:59
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Talmonis posted:It's the second coming of the Red Scare, complete with armed morons threatening to "stop them" but with actual "Reds" (read: Muslims) to target and harass this time instead of simply inferring that anyone who disagrees with their right wing bullshit as one. It's strange how the left considers themselves moral arbiters and protectors of Muslim Americans when people say mean things about them, while their president blows them up because they're on a list and the response is a shrug. But sure, "right wing bullshit". Just like Syrian refugees are somehow a moral imperative now, but when they actually had homes and a country, no one wanted to commit troops or material.
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Dec 1, 2015 23:01
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Trump's shaking CNN down for $5 milquote:"How about I tell CNN, who doesn't treat me properly ... I'm not gonna do the next debate, okay?" The demand garnered tepid applause from the crowd.
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Dec 1, 2015 23:03
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Trabisnikof posted:Just for $$$, which makes it ok, got it. Did you want the idealist answer or the realistic answer?
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Dec 1, 2015 23:04
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TheDisreputableDog posted:It's strange how the left considers themselves moral arbiters and protectors of Muslim Americans when people say mean things about them, while their president blows them up because they're on a list and the response is a shrug.
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Dec 1, 2015 23:05
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zoux posted:Trump's shaking CNN down for $5 mil yeah sure it will go to wounded warriors. i loving doubt it.
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Dec 1, 2015 23:05
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Mr. Wookums posted:Was there an actual point to this or is it just random rabble? You responding was the point. Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah sure it will go to wounded warriors. i loving doubt it. I'm sure it is, though.
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Dec 1, 2015 23:05
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