I Killed British - The Griefing Discussion Thread

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super sweet best pal: Nov 18, 2009

How is it possible to host a performance art show with no appreciation for said art?

# ? Nov 27, 2015 22:32

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# ? May 17, 2024 04:05

Screaming Idiot: Nov 26, 2007; JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

LentThem posted:

Like pretty much everything on the internet, sex is a huge part of Second Life. People would pay shitloads of actual money to buy sex attachments (prosthetic dicks, pussies, nipples of people and animals), sex furniture, sex animations, and sex audio clips. In like 2005, people started making interactive sex attachments. These were scripted body parts that a person could wear that would get aroused, jizz/squirt, trigger animations and audio to play, etc. Then, some of the sex attachment makers started having the attachments communicate with each other, so for example interacting with someone's nipple attachment (clicking it or something) would give them a boner because it would increment a 'stimulation counter' or something on the dick attachment.

These objects used alternate chat channels to communicate with each other; think of it like other frequencies on a walkie talkie. These channels were used for characters and objects to talk to other objects, but nobody can actually see what is said on these channels. By scripting an object to listen on all possible channels and relay it to a user, people in the Second Life goon group reverse engineered the commands these sex attachments (the most popular brand of them) used since it was all plaintext.

The payoff
Using the above information, it was possible to script an attachment for yourself that, when enabled, would spam the stimulation increment constantly (and silently to anyone not using a listener object themselves). This meant that you could do two things:

-Turn it on and go about your business. Anytime you came within 'hearing' range of a person wearing sex parts, they would immediately get aroused and start cumming repeatedly, with full particle effects, animations, and audio.
OR
-Stand in the middle of a nightclub and then turn it on. 80% of the people in the club (since they're wearing sex parts) would immediately get aroused and start cumming at the same time since it's a compact space and they're all in range of you.

Since people in Second Life treat it like their real life, they would flip the gently caress out at this. First they'd be mortified because they just did a very private thing in a public place (possibly in a PG-rated area, getting them reported), and then they'd be furious because someone 'raped' them and made them orgasm without their consent but don't know who it was.

The sex attachment makers eventually fixed their scripting so this wasn't possible, but holy poo poo that was some griefing while it lasted.

You. You and people like you are why this thread has lasted as long as it has. You are a treasure, SL is a treasure.

# ? Nov 27, 2015 22:55

Dizz: Feb 14, 2010; L L

McGiggins posted:

That's loving amazing.

Is linden labs ever gonna make a second life 2: redux?

Cause their poo poo is dated, and they could probably make a much better version with enforced scripting standards if they wanted. Like, what's their business plan, just endlessly ride the wave of pathetics until there is no more to be had?

They don't need to do anything and still make money. just keep the servers rolling and these people will never leave.

# ? Nov 28, 2015 18:13

Morzhovyye: Mar 2, 2013

Dizz posted:

They don't need to do anything and still make money. just keep the servers rolling and these people will never leave.

Not to mention the fact that most people who play SL still use computers from the last millennium.

# ? Nov 28, 2015 22:27

McGiggins: Apr 4, 2014; by R. Guyovich; Lipstick Apathy

Hmmm. It's actually kind of sad, all that creaky old hardware, and all those creaky old people having creaky old furry roleplay cybersex. Goonspeed W-hat people, you bring content to these peoples lives.

# ? Nov 29, 2015 23:39

hirvox: Sep 8, 2009

LentThem posted:

These objects used alternate chat channels to communicate with each other; think of it like other frequencies on a walkie talkie. These channels were used for characters and objects to talk to other objects, but nobody can actually see what is said on these channels. By scripting an object to listen on all possible channels and relay it to a user, people in the Second Life goon group reverse engineered the commands these sex attachments (the most popular brand of them) used since it was all plaintext.

I wonder whether this would work with World of Warcraft's various RP mods that add extra fields to your character sheet that others can view if they have the same mod.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 13:36

Teratrain: Aug 23, 2007; Waiting for Godot

There's at least one recorded instance of a similar (but less exploity) thing.

Basically, there's a WoW addon for roleplaying that allows players to create custom items that do misc non-gameplay-affecting things such as chat emotes and fake buffs.

Someone (in this case, a dwarf riding a magic carpet) was handing out potions that made players spew racist comments into the public chat channels. Said victim was then suspended by the GMs because hey, it looked like he was going off on a racist tirade in public chat.

Long story short, don't drink magic potions from dwarves riding on flying rugs.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 15:00

MisterOblivious: Mar 17, 2010; by sebmojo

Enallyniv posted:

There's at least one recorded instance of a similar (but less exploity) thing.

Basically, there's a WoW addon for roleplaying that allows players to create custom items that do misc non-gameplay-affecting things such as chat emotes and fake buffs.

Someone (in this case, a dwarf riding a magic carpet) was handing out potions that made players spew racist comments into the public chat channels. Said victim was then suspended by the GMs because hey, it looked like he was going off on a racist tirade in public chat.

Long story short, don't drink magic potions from dwarves riding on flying rugs.

Ahhhh speaking of nerfed interactions:

Star Trek Online had a mission where you were rewarded with a McGuffin that'd cause your character to do an emote-dance when you used it. There were 4 possible emotes the item could make you do, depending on which of the four ways you chose to complete the mission.

Only one way was the "correct" roleplay way that made you do some the stupid RP approved dance.

All of the McGuffins had the same name when you sold them on the market.

TL;DR: The RP'ers paid you money to buy a single use emote but you sold them the wrong single use emote. It's not terribly exciting but scamming people while loving over roleplayers = good times.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 15:53

Morglon: Jan 13, 2010; Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.

Yeah but it's an amount so close to nothing that it's barely even worth doing the mission and the other thing about Star Trek is that these people will get mad about anything really. In a game that does so much to make it hard to actually have any effect on anybody else these people will flip their poo poo over you just existing in the same instance as them even though they went out of their way to seek out other people to be offended by. And it doesn't end there, most of the decent people don't even play anymore, now you just have those sad motherfuckers who jerk themselves off over how superior they are even though they are pretty much the same and you have them on all sides. I would say it's like EVE in a way where it's at least fun to read about and observer but all the creative griefing has been done ages ago and now you're left with a sad husk of what are barely people anymore sitting in their trenches doing the same thing over and over again even though they don't know why and stopped having fun years ago.

# ? Nov 30, 2015 19:58

AbrahamLincolnLog: Oct 1, 2014; Note to self: This one's the shitty one

Enallyniv posted:

There's at least one recorded instance of a similar (but less exploity) thing.

Basically, there's a WoW addon for roleplaying that allows players to create custom items that do misc non-gameplay-affecting things such as chat emotes and fake buffs.

Someone (in this case, a dwarf riding a magic carpet) was handing out potions that made players spew racist comments into the public chat channels. Said victim was then suspended by the GMs because hey, it looked like he was going off on a racist tirade in public chat.

Long story short, don't drink magic potions from dwarves riding on flying rugs.

They also came back later (or perhaps it was another person) with an item that started forcing people to emote out loud, in graphic detail, their character removing their pants and taking shits on the floor. Spammed, over and over again.

I play on a high-pop RP server in WoW. That was a fun night.

# ? Dec 1, 2015 05:37

Sex Robot: Jan 11, 2011; Nothing amazing happens here.
Everything is ordinary.

That's just beautiful

# ? Dec 1, 2015 12:41

LentThem: Aug 31, 2004; 90% Retractible

Light Gun Man posted:

Please tell me there is a video of this, it sounds hilarious.

I'm not sure, this stuff was shortly before Youtube was a thing, so most videos were just put up on the various hosting websites. I had some FRAPS recordings from back then, but it was 2-3 computers ago and I didn't keep a lot of it. Maybe people who are good with archive.org can find something: The sex attachment brand was "Xcite!" and the spamming tool was called "XciteLOL." When I checked Google the only result for this was an archived BYOB thread, but maybe someone else can find something.

On a whim I tried logging onto SL for the first time in years and it was locked down and lovely. They've added a lot more land permissions and I guess these are defaults, so now there are only a few places in the game where you can actually create objects (which is needed for most grief toys) and a lot of people have their permissions set so you can't see anyone unless you're standing on their land with them. I guess this was to reduce the number of Reports being sent to moderators, because holy poo poo people even used to report you for shoving if you just bumped into them while walking through a crowded, laggy area or standing in their house.

Im not touching youuuuuuu!
There used to be a menu option in the SL client that would let you see a list of everyone that had bumped into you or hit you with a physical (physics-applied) object, like bullets or cars. This menu made it super easy to report people, and goons would get banned for a lot of minor things if we got the mods' attention just because our group was on the Linden poo poo List. To stay under the radar, we had to find ways of messing with people without directly touching them.

A trick for doing this was to make a script that would create an object which was small, given an invisible texture, and made phantom (intangible so players and objects pass through it) and then place that object at the same coordinates as a target player. From there, you could have the object do a lot of different things before having it delete itself:

-Play a loud sound that you or someone else had uploaded to the game. By stacking the same sound a bunch, it would play them all at once at some crazy amplified volume after they had buffered. You'd often have people in chat afterwards saying "Who the gently caress did that? You just woke up everyone in my house, rear end in a top hat!"

-Play a sound and produce a particle effect, for example a runny poo poo sound and a stream of brown coming from the player's rear end. It's harmless but people would still get mad about it since they couldn't control it and didn't know who was doing it to them.

-Script the object to have a really really strong "pull" effect on any physics-enabled objects in range. This would suck all of the physical objects directly at the player, knocking him around and possibly throwing him into the sky or off the property he's standing on. The nice thing about this one is that the "Who bumped me?" menu would show the owner of those physics-enabled objects instead of you, causing some innocent guy to get reported.

But yeah, none of that works anymore with the new land permissions. :argh:

# ? Dec 1, 2015 13:13

Hypha: Sep 13, 2008

Heh, counter grief

# ? Dec 1, 2015 14:30

Railing Kill: Nov 14, 2008; You are the first crack in the sheer face of god. From you it will spread.

LentThem posted:

I'm not sure, this stuff was shortly before Youtube was a thing, so most videos were just put up on the various hosting websites. I had some FRAPS recordings from back then, but it was 2-3 computers ago and I didn't keep a lot of it. Maybe people who are good with archive.org can find something: The sex attachment brand was "Xcite!" and the spamming tool was called "XciteLOL." When I checked Google the only result for this was an archived BYOB thread, but maybe someone else can find something.

On a whim I tried logging onto SL for the first time in years and it was locked down and lovely. They've added a lot more land permissions and I guess these are defaults, so now there are only a few places in the game where you can actually create objects (which is needed for most grief toys) and a lot of people have their permissions set so you can't see anyone unless you're standing on their land with them. I guess this was to reduce the number of Reports being sent to moderators, because holy poo poo people even used to report you for shoving if you just bumped into them while walking through a crowded, laggy area or standing in their house.

Im not touching youuuuuuu!
There used to be a menu option in the SL client that would let you see a list of everyone that had bumped into you or hit you with a physical (physics-applied) object, like bullets or cars. This menu made it super easy to report people, and goons would get banned for a lot of minor things if we got the mods' attention just because our group was on the Linden poo poo List. To stay under the radar, we had to find ways of messing with people without directly touching them.

A trick for doing this was to make a script that would create an object which was small, given an invisible texture, and made phantom (intangible so players and objects pass through it) and then place that object at the same coordinates as a target player. From there, you could have the object do a lot of different things before having it delete itself:

-Play a loud sound that you or someone else had uploaded to the game. By stacking the same sound a bunch, it would play them all at once at some crazy amplified volume after they had buffered. You'd often have people in chat afterwards saying "Who the gently caress did that? You just woke up everyone in my house, rear end in a top hat!"

-Play a sound and produce a particle effect, for example a runny poo poo sound and a stream of brown coming from the player's rear end. It's harmless but people would still get mad about it since they couldn't control it and didn't know who was doing it to them.

-Script the object to have a really really strong "pull" effect on any physics-enabled objects in range. This would suck all of the physical objects directly at the player, knocking him around and possibly throwing him into the sky or off the property he's standing on. The nice thing about this one is that the "Who bumped me?" menu would show the owner of those physics-enabled objects instead of you, causing some innocent guy to get reported.

But yeah, none of that works anymore with the new land permissions.

It sounds like they sacrificed a lot of the functionality and freedom of the game for the sake of trying to beat griefers. Truly, the terrorists have won.

# ? Dec 1, 2015 17:30

A Strange Aeon: Mar 26, 2010; You are now a slimy little toad; The Great Twist

Railing Kill posted:

It sounds like they sacrificed a lot of the functionality and freedom of the game for the sake of trying to beat griefers. Truly, the terrorists have won.

Second Life, a parable for our times.

# ? Dec 1, 2015 20:06

The Ninth Layer: Jun 20, 2007

One of my favorite WoW griefing videos, made by SA's very own waar (rest in peace buddy):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n52v0bVpWis

For those of you who haven't played WoW:
One of the classes in the game, Warlocks, can summon other players to their location from anywhere in the world. A big requirement is that you need two other people to help you out by clicking the portal. In this video, waar is in a battleground (a PVP instanced map that you have to queue up for) and claims to be a warlock summoning people up to the front lines. Actually though, he's a mage, and instead of putting up summoning portals, he's putting up town portals. So hapless pubbies see him asking for help summoning, blindly click the portal, and end up getting send out of the battleground and back to town, not only getting ejected from the PvP instance with no reward, but also getting a 15 minute "deserter" debuff that keeps them from queuing into another battleground.

# ? Dec 1, 2015 21:51

Shumagorath: Jun 6, 2001

LentThem posted:

Like pretty much everything on the internet, sex is a huge part of Second Life. People would pay shitloads of actual money to buy sex attachments (prosthetic dicks, pussies, nipples of people and animals), sex furniture, sex animations, and sex audio clips. In like 2005, people started making interactive sex attachments. These were scripted body parts that a person could wear that would get aroused, jizz/squirt, trigger animations and audio to play, etc. Then, some of the sex attachment makers started having the attachments communicate with each other, so for example interacting with someone's nipple attachment (clicking it or something) would give them a boner because it would increment a 'stimulation counter' or something on the dick attachment.

These objects used alternate chat channels to communicate with each other; think of it like other frequencies on a walkie talkie. These channels were used for characters and objects to talk to other objects, but nobody can actually see what is said on these channels. By scripting an object to listen on all possible channels and relay it to a user, people in the Second Life goon group reverse engineered the commands these sex attachments (the most popular brand of them) used since it was all plaintext.

The payoff
Using the above information, it was possible to script an attachment for yourself that, when enabled, would spam the stimulation increment constantly (and silently to anyone not using a listener object themselves). This meant that you could do two things:

-Turn it on and go about your business. Anytime you came within 'hearing' range of a person wearing sex parts, they would immediately get aroused and start cumming repeatedly, with full particle effects, animations, and audio.
OR
-Stand in the middle of a nightclub and then turn it on. 80% of the people in the club (since they're wearing sex parts) would immediately get aroused and start cumming at the same time since it's a compact space and they're all in range of you.

Since people in Second Life treat it like their real life, they would flip the gently caress out at this. First they'd be mortified because they just did a very private thing in a public place (possibly in a PG-rated area, getting them reported), and then they'd be furious because someone 'raped' them and made them orgasm without their consent but don't know who it was.

The sex attachment makers eventually fixed their scripting so this wasn't possible, but holy poo poo that was some griefing while it lasted.

Russian signals officers would be proud.

# ? Dec 2, 2015 04:09

Bonald Farndhardt: Apr 18, 2005; Ye it up

The WoW raiders were not prepared for the accordions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_6ZQtp9hRc

# ? Dec 3, 2015 02:01

Nerdlord Actual: Apr 14, 2007; Awaken to your true self with Wisconsin Potatoes; Grimey Drawer

Bonald Farndhardt posted:

The WoW raiders were not prepared for the accordions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_6ZQtp9hRc

Yaaaaaaaay! You spoil us, Bonald

# ? Dec 3, 2015 02:40

Railing Kill: Nov 14, 2008; You are the first crack in the sheer face of god. From you it will spread.

Bonald Farndhardt posted:

The WoW raiders were not prepared for the accordions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_6ZQtp9hRc

"I know that type of music and I would listen to it if it weren't a raid." Holy poo poo I'm dying here.

# ? Dec 3, 2015 15:04

Catgirl Al Capone: Dec 15, 2007

sometimes the people who try to roll with it are (for unintentional reasons) funnier than the ragers

# ? Dec 3, 2015 17:09

Railing Kill: Nov 14, 2008; You are the first crack in the sheer face of god. From you it will spread.

*scoff* "I mean, I'll listen to polka while I'm driving around and poo poo, but only Avenged Sevenfold has enough energy to amp me up for this raid!" :saddowns:

MMO players are the worst. Griefers are doing god's work.

# ? Dec 3, 2015 17:21

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

The classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5AkIfgioA4

# ? Dec 3, 2015 18:52

Bait and Swatch: Sep 5, 2012; Join me, Comrades
In the Star Citizen D&D thread

Snapchat A Titty posted:

The classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5AkIfgioA4

These two videos from the person who made that one are also pretty funny:

http://youtu.be/cP1SsfnSFDs

http://youtu.be/pAGtQ97GrdA

# ? Dec 3, 2015 21:52

Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

Get off Vent or I'll have you bent.

# ? Dec 3, 2015 22:02

Cojawfee: May 31, 2006; I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

I don't use vent much, but I'm pretty sure it tells you who is talking and you can mute people. Why don't people do that?

# ? Dec 5, 2015 19:00

Bonald Farndhardt: Apr 18, 2005; Ye it up

Cojawfee posted:

I don't use vent much, but I'm pretty sure it tells you who is talking and you can mute people. Why don't people do that?

A couple reasons: You can mute someone but if the troll logs off, changes their name slightly and then rejoins, they aren't muted anymore. Also, there's a little-known feature called user-to-user chat where you specify certain users to broadcast sounds to, and then you can send them noises without even being in the same channel as them, and they can't easily tell who's doing it, especially if the server is crowded. I've got an upcoming video involving the latter technique and pig squeals.

# ? Dec 5, 2015 20:07

Morglon: Jan 13, 2010; Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.

The main reason is Ventrillo is complete poo poo though.

# ? Dec 5, 2015 23:13

Chocobo: Oct 15, 2012; Here comes a new challenger!; Oven Wrangler

I think Total War: Arena is ripe for griefing, given that it is 10v10 players and friendly fire will tank your entire teams score to the point that you can't win. I haven't seen anybody do it intentionally in the beta but since its going to be free-to-play you can bet it will get ugly at release.

# ? Dec 5, 2015 23:55

Captain Bravo: Feb 16, 2011; An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.

Cojawfee posted:

I don't use vent much, but I'm pretty sure it tells you who is talking and you can mute people. Why don't people do that?

Also, don't people usually turn on Vent, then fullscreen their game? Muting someone means you'd have to stop what you're doing to bring up the vent window.

# ? Dec 6, 2015 01:47

super sweet best pal: Nov 18, 2009

Most SA groups I've played games with prefer mumble, so I don't know too much about vent.

# ? Dec 6, 2015 02:22

Quaint Quail Quilt: Jun 19, 2006; Ask me about that time I told people mixing bleach and vinegar is okay

My brother got me into one called curse voice that seems better in every way than those and teamtalk. I haven't use it enough for a definitive review though.
It has a friends list and nice screen overlay though.

# ? Dec 6, 2015 02:50

cinci zoo sniper: Mar 15, 2013

Best griefing comes from the thread itself.

# ? Dec 6, 2015 03:22

Bait and Swatch: Sep 5, 2012; Join me, Comrades
In the Star Citizen D&D thread

Bonald Farndhardt posted:

A couple reasons: You can mute someone but if the troll logs off, changes their name slightly and then rejoins, they aren't muted anymore. Also, there's a little-known feature called user-to-user chat where you specify certain users to broadcast sounds to, and then you can send them noises without even being in the same channel as them, and they can't easily tell who's doing it, especially if the server is crowded. I've got an upcoming video involving the latter technique and pig squeals.

You can also open up multiple vent Windows and just login with multiple accounts. The guy who made that video does that repeatedly. On one of his videos it results in someone asking "why is the entire cast of top gun in this channel."

# ? Dec 6, 2015 03:23

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

From listening to vent trolls, it sounds like the users are all squatting on a channel than none of them have privs on, so they can't kick or ban. So often they end up saying, "hey let's go to another vent" and apparently they're retarded because they say that in the channel that the guy is loving with them on, so of course he can follow them.

# ? Dec 6, 2015 04:07

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Bait and Swatch posted:

You can also open up multiple vent Windows and just login with multiple accounts. The guy who made that video does that repeatedly. On one of his videos it results in someone asking "why is the entire cast of top gun in this channel."

I did this in world of tanks to simulate the 5 guys in my tank. Other people were not happy about hearing me 5 times each time I asked which side of the map they were going to.

# ? Dec 6, 2015 04:11

RatHat: Dec 31, 2007; A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

This is probably my favourite of all the Ventrilo griefing videos I've seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYHTr2Z82Ao

# ? Dec 6, 2015 06:46

Bluemillion: Aug 18, 2008; I got your dispensers
right here

RatHat posted:

This is probably my favourite of all the Ventrilo griefing videos I've seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYHTr2Z82Ao

This is loving amazing. Was kinda hoping he'd edit it to be "I suck balls balls balls OF STEEL!"

# ? Dec 6, 2015 07:40

Hihohe: Oct 4, 2008; Fuck you and the sun you live under

Third World Reggin posted:

I did this in world of tanks to simulate the 5 guys in my tank. Other people were not happy about hearing me 5 times each time I asked which side of the map they were going to.

Heh, some of the guys shouldve been the 3 stooges and did some slapstick. Shoot near one of your teammates," you idiot you almost shot one of our guys *Bop* Why I Aughtta *Bamp* Nyaayaaya. Then just start shootin everywhere and drive in circles.

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mcvey: Aug 31, 2006; go caps haha

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I gently caress man rear end?

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