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SedanChair posted:Jesus christ, they're vipers I was gonna go with Jackals.
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spacetoaster posted:The police don't just get to keep a building forever because a crime happened there. 
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William Bear posted:If any of you are Muslims trying to get an early start on your Eid Al-Fitr gifts, I have a feeling this is going to be the hot item in 1437! This is really, really depressing. Talmonis posted:I was gonna go with Jackals. Vultures also fits.
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Bullfrog posted:That poor daughter This definitely feels like LIHOP reprisal on the family.
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FourLeaf posted:Not necessarily? Terrorism is defined by a political or ideological goal, at least according to the FBI. So the Columbine massacre wasn't terrorism, for example. That's just a contrived invention though.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:32
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help msnbc is radicalizing me
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TheDisreputableDog posted:The FBI just said it was terrorism. drat, dude. You sure owned all the people ITT arguing that it definitely wasn't terrorism, even if the FBI turned up firmer evidence and concluded it was. Savage.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:32
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:That's just a contrived invention though. Please elaborate.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:34
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FourLeaf posted:Please elaborate. It's a definition they more or less contrived (post 9/11) to subscribe all of "terrorism" to a particular brand of terrorism. I believe it be a much broader term covering more events. That said, the trollish one ITT only cares when it's "radical islamic terrorism" and not, you know right-wing nut jobs committing terror, so it's moot.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:35
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"Terrorism" is important because the Charleston and Colorado shootings were "not terrorism". If only Muslims can commit terrorism we are in a dark place.
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I'm still laughing at the dude who just wanted a popsicle. I like to believe he didn't know anything about the shooting. Just saw all the commotion and was all "I wonder if they got any popsicles." Edit: aww it was a screwdriver. This country has gone to poo poo.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:36
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:That's just a contrived invention though. Not really. The motivations for a crime on that scale are essential to prevention. For example; a Palestinian member of Hamas blowing up an Israeli patrol isn't insane or a mass-murderer, though they are defined as terrorists, as they are without a recognized state.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:36
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Palestine is a recognized state.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:37
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Has ISIS claimed credit for the attack yet? They usually do by this point.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:38
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euphronius posted:Palestine is a recognized state. Hamas is considered a terrorist organization though. And it's not recognized by Israel, which is where the victims in this case would hail from.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:39
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Talmonis posted:That'd make it official...you know, a good thing to wait for so you don't incite rednecks to go around lynching every muslim they can catch. Well I hope this hypothetical crime doesn't happen either! But the actual reason they're dragging their heels on labeling is because of optics wrt the current administration
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Talmonis posted:Hamas is considered a terrorist organization though. And it's not recognized by Israel, which is where the victims in this case would hail from. In not sure what your point is other than back peddling.
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Talmonis posted:Not really. The motivations for a crime on that scale are essential to prevention. For example; a Palestinian member of Hamas blowing up an Israeli patrol isn't insane or a mass-murderer, though they are defined as terrorists, as they are without a recognized state. That doesn't mean anything though.
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Talmonis posted:That'd make it official...you know, a good thing to wait for so you don't incite rednecks to go around lynching every muslim they can catch. That baby is innocent, as is the family. With their information being blasted around, they're not safe. They're not safe because of islamphobic morons like Trump stirring up the mob. Is this something that's happening? I haven't heard of any lynchings of muslims in the south, but maybe you could link something for us? I do know that anti-theists are liable to just up and shoot a bunch of muslim kids. 
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It would have been cool if they could have given any kind of elaboration for why they think it was an act of terrorism other than "I don't know". At least they think they know what's going on.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:41
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Well I hope this hypothetical crime doesn't happen either! Do you believe that the shooting in Charleston and Colorado were terrorism?
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FourLeaf posted:Please elaborate. Politically motivated acts of wild violence (the recent shooting at a planned parenthood) or intentional assassination (the murder of george tiller) are merely awful crimes that We Can Never Really Know the reasons behind as long as the perpetrators are christian white guys
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TheDisreputableDog posted:But the actual reason they're dragging their heels on labeling is because of optics wrt the current administration It's because of people like you
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but if the perpetrators are muslim? oh boy you better believe its terrorism
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People stockpiling arms and ammunition are an existential threat to peace and security in the United States of America.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:44
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TheDisreputableDog posted:The FBI just said it was terrorism. Since it official then yes, we do know. What's your point?
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Dec 4, 2015 20:44
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Its Benghazi all over again!!
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Dec 4, 2015 20:45
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McDowell posted:Brown people stockpiling arms and ammunition are an existential threat to peace and security in the United States of America. Fixed that for you. White citizens doing this are just exercising their god given constitutional rights.
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Dec 4, 2015 20:46
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McDowell posted:People stockpiling arms and ammunition are an existential threat to peace and security in the United States of America. Yeah, round up everyone in TFR. 
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Dec 4, 2015 20:46
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FourLeaf posted:Please elaborate. Are your last thoughts of the virgin wives you're getting in heaven? If yes, it's radical Islamic terrorism. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Well I hope this hypothetical crime doesn't happen either! The FBI doesn't call up the president for approval before stating investigation proceedings. Don't be a conspiracy nut. They didn't drag their heels, they made a statement within less than 48 hours after investigating the crime scene and the background of the assailants. Various details leaked out to media in the meantime.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Are your last thoughts of the virgin wives you're getting in heaven? BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Do you believe that the shooting in Charleston and Colorado were terrorism?
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Dec 4, 2015 20:47
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Are your last thoughts of the virgin wives you're getting in heaven? They were already married. Also that's incredibly racist.
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euphronius posted:They were already married. It's also sexist too!
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Dec 4, 2015 20:48
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Getting those virgins is going to be really awkward for that married couple.
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Trabisnikof posted:It's also sexist too! Yeah it's interesting how the wife is usually omitted from the discussion. Women are terrorists too, guys.
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:Has ISIS claimed credit for the attack yet? They usually do by this point. Heard a report earlier that they released a statement basically saying "Wasn't us but good job guy!"
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Dec 4, 2015 20:50
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Do martyred women also get virgins in Muslim heaven? Or do they transform back into a virgin for some other man.
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Why, it's almost like TDD is a racist idiot!
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Are your last thoughts of the virgin wives you're getting in heaven? What a coincidence that your standard for what constitutes radical Islamic terrorism is based on information which is completely unverifiable.
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