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Dick Bass: Feb 22, 2006

Morglon posted:

People in this game get upset very easily for very stupid reasons. On all sides. They get even more upset when you rub their faces in it. Which is what I live for.

STOP HOVERING NEAR ME!!!
YOU ARE HITLER!

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Rutkowski: Apr 28, 2008; CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS GUY?

Morglon posted:

People in this game get upset very easily for very stupid reasons. On all sides. They get even more upset when you rub their faces in it. Which is what I live for.

Seems the germans have capitulated though. Those Shadows of Corsairs guys or whatever they're called gave up so fast when only I and two or three other goons sprayed them with the usual stuff on Droz. After the other guys left the ERPers even started spamming their own disco balls and balloon guns and poo poo and gave up roleplaying completely.

I didn't even get props for my awesome Dr. Zoidberg outfit.

# ? Dec 3, 2015 16:39

CrushedWill: Sep 27, 2012; Stand it like a man... and give some back

I was reading though the patch notes (due to extended downtime) and was pleased to see that there has been an option to delete multiple emails in the ui. Not often that I actually like :cryptic: features, but if that works, good on them. I might be able to read my mail again and get the loving light to stop flashing.

# ? Dec 3, 2015 19:31

Lafarg: Jul 23, 2012

CrushedWill posted:

I was reading though the patch notes (due to extended downtime) and was pleased to see that there has been an option to delete multiple emails in the ui. Not often that I actually like :cryptic: features, but if that works, good on them. I might be able to read my mail again and get the loving light to stop flashing.

I plugged in an Xbox controller and just slammed X and Y repeatedly in my mailbox until the messages were all gone. It was the only way to clear out the 500 catfish sandwiches AotC sent me a few years ago.

# ? Dec 3, 2015 20:11

AotC: May 16, 2010

system protocol posted:

It was the only way to clear out the 500 catfish sandwiches AotC sent me a few years ago.

Hey buddy... Need some more catfish sandwiches?

# ? Dec 3, 2015 22:46

TheCosmicMuffet: Jun 21, 2009; by Shine

The worst part is that replicators don't even get the flavor of catfish right.

# ? Dec 3, 2015 23:43

Lafarg: Jul 23, 2012

AotC posted:

Hey buddy... Need some more catfish sandwiches?

You would have more. God damned cyberbully.

# ? Dec 4, 2015 00:22

Tuskin38: May 1, 2013; Have you seen these posts?
They're pretty popular on Reddit.

They changed the Elite Callistos

# ? Dec 4, 2015 01:34

wdarkk: Oct 26, 2007; Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

Assuming they can use it properly that's really good. Even if they can't it's still probably a substantial buff.

# ? Dec 4, 2015 01:43

Kesper North: Nov 3, 2011; EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

That all looks the same to me, what changed?

# ? Dec 4, 2015 02:10

wdarkk: Oct 26, 2007; Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

Lock Trajectory was added.

# ? Dec 4, 2015 02:16

Shalhavet: Dec 10, 2010; This post is terrible; Doctor Rope

They always had it. The change is, they now have 2x Quantum Torpedoes and Torpedo: Spread III instead of 1x Photon Torpedo, 1x Photon Cannon and Torpedo: High Yield II. Also they seem to be firing 8-9 torpedoes per salvo at a single target.

Golonun@doctornex has a meltdown about the winter event in NoPPS

# ? Dec 4, 2015 07:38

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Anyone parsed the pets yet? Are the Callistos any good?

Oh: ^
Golonun@doctornex: ok guys i'll catch u all later gotta work on this lawsuit with my atorneye

:rolleye:

# ? Dec 4, 2015 07:42

Asimo: Sep 23, 2007

DancingShade posted:

Anyone parsed the pets yet? Are the Callistos any good?

I haven't parsed it but in theory it's a massive improvement. Because of the fact hangar pets have lovely energy balance (basically they have 50/50/50/50 like all NPCs), their energy weapons do crappy damage while torpedoes do their normal damage. Swapping a turret for a torpedo means that's one less energy weapon draining power too, so the cannons will be doing a little bit more as well. And Torp Spread is probably more useful in the current game than HYT; the damage isn't that much lower, but it's an AoE.

Of course they didn't seem to fix the AI issue of them (and several other frigates) never going into full impulse when you leave combat, but that's Cryptic for you. :ughh:

# ? Dec 4, 2015 07:46

CrushedWill: Sep 27, 2012; Stand it like a man... and give some back

I'm away from a game client for a bit. I'm flying the zstore morrigu, any specific reason to get fleet version? Also, what is fc and upgrade costs?

# ? Dec 4, 2015 08:22

Tai: Mar 8, 2006

Bit more hull and an extra engineer console so one more spot for a universal console or something.

Should 1 x fleet ship module (20M on exchange?) since you already have the C-Store version and maybe 20k fleet credits?

tl;dr yeah upgrade it, it's a great little brawler. I'm still enjoying flying it months since I bought it.

Tai fucked around with this message at 10:32 on Dec 4, 2015

# ? Dec 4, 2015 10:19

CrushedWill: Sep 27, 2012; Stand it like a man... and give some back

Thanks for the info, I'll put the upgrade on the list of things to do.

# ? Dec 4, 2015 15:08

DonDoodles: Aug 18, 2010; by general anime

I'm guessing the reason why most pubbies I meet have horrible PCs (and can't afford to buy one built in the last decade) is because they all pay for attorneys to hang on the sidelines until a video game pushes them over the edge.

# ? Dec 4, 2015 16:00

CrushedWill: Sep 27, 2012; Stand it like a man... and give some back

Another reason they likely use shite equipment is STO does nothing useful with modern hardware, leaving little incentive for them to reduce their "litigation" reserves.

# ? Dec 4, 2015 17:04

hakimashou: Jul 15, 2002; Upset Trowel

whining pubbie posted:

steampunker7 wrote: �
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If Cryptic/PWI cared one bit for stopping griefing/trolling in STO it would:

- Set Fire Extinguishers so they can only be used in the mission instance in which they are found and nowhere else.

- Give party poppers/tribble guns/balloon guns etc a set number of charges before they are used up.

- Move Party Amplifiers to the Zen store, set them so they only last 30 seconds, and the dance action can be cancelled by just moving (like it is in another cryptic game.

- Set a radius of contact around toons so players can not stand on top of each other (like it is in another cryptic game.)

- Disable all combat abilities in social/hub zones like Risa, Drozanna, DS9, ES9, etc..

- Fix the STFs with choke points so one player can not block progression of the missions.

- Impliment a vote kick system for STF teams so players themselves can stop someone trying to intent ally fail missions.

That would take out the more casual troublemakers as, deprived out their toys, they would get bored and wander away. As for the more hardcore ones, a 10 minute search of this forum or Google would provide more than enough evidence and justification for a couple competent GMs to start swinging the banhammer on the perpetual problem children. It's not like they are shy or subtle about their antics.

But we might as well be wishing for a million dollars, world peace, and a pony at this point. Cryptic/PWI's made it very clear they will go out of their way to protect and support their trolls and griefers, even when there is evidence of a connection between one of the more notorious ones and the guy who was supposedly DDoSing the games and hurting their business.

Such is life I guess.

http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1207340/cryptic-needs-to-work-harder-on-anti-griefing/p4

# ? Dec 4, 2015 21:03

Soviet Commubot: Oct 22, 2008

hakimashou posted:

http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1207340/cryptic-needs-to-work-harder-on-anti-griefing/p4

I will never cease to be amazed at how mad they get over dumb poo poo.

# ? Dec 4, 2015 21:12

TyrsHTML: May 13, 2004

It will never stop amazing me that dancing, neat lights, or loving fog and smoke is considered trolling to those people. Star Trek should be less about Worf scowling at fun and more about Q bringing a Mariachi band to the bridge.

# ? Dec 4, 2015 21:53

LordCo: Jun 25, 2005

In the future, everybody lives in a Tardis and spelling is optional.

# ? Dec 4, 2015 22:01

Soviet Commubot: Oct 22, 2008

LordCo posted:

In the future, everybody lives in a Tardis and spelling is optional.

Were we in the same winter STF? I just came here to post this.

# ? Dec 4, 2015 22:11

TheCosmicMuffet: Jun 21, 2009; by Shine

I don't really get what you're pointing out. Those cities are comon around troghout the world in our time.

Do you think maybe STO is actually the medium of communication for a secret society--and all the missing letters from the words in people's background form messages about the one world government?

# ? Dec 4, 2015 22:15

super sweet best pal: Nov 18, 2009

SUPER _{^_enhanced} AUGMENT

# ? Dec 5, 2015 01:09

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Unguided posted:

SUPER _{^_enhanced} AUGMENT

Captain Penis Enlargement Spam reporting for duty Admiral.

# ? Dec 5, 2015 01:31

Kazinsal: Dec 13, 2011

DancingShade posted:

Captain Penis Enlargement Spam reporting for duty Admiral.

I wonder if I could make "Cheap Canadian Cialis" sound sufficiently like a Klingon name.

# ? Dec 5, 2015 01:40

IPCRESS: May 27, 2012

Cheif Kay'nadien Qialis.

# ? Dec 5, 2015 03:03

super sweet best pal: Nov 18, 2009

Choap K'naden Khaless

# ? Dec 5, 2015 03:21

TheCosmicMuffet: Jun 21, 2009; by Shine

I remember him. He was unforgettable.

# ? Dec 5, 2015 03:23

Korgan: Feb 14, 2012

Metaconcert posted:

I don't know why I find myself playing this game again (although it's more peaceful than I would have expected), but watching the reaction to the Jupiter release was strangely entertaining: the level of upset was so disproportionate.

That said, could I grab a channel invite / wiki access? delleth@metaconcert / metaconcert, respectively. Real original, I know.

You've got wiki access now, and possibly channel access I don't know that would require logging in instead of playing Fallout 4.

Make sure to look up the new griefing exploits we added recently just to gently caress with steampunker7. He's gonna start losing dilithium without realising it.

# ? Dec 5, 2015 05:32

hakimashou: Jul 15, 2002; Upset Trowel

ALERT

Pubbie have seen in goon thread hide it all!

a very upset pubbie posted:

Really now? Guess you've never been here then: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3627820

Specifically under "Things to Do" section

"Griefing

During simpler times this was as easy as running into Drozana station with a fire extinguisher, and much rage was had.

However, as time went on the ERPists dispersed, and in addition found ways to shut the effects off, and it seems the idea of novelty items causing rage was coming to an end.

Then Cryptic gave us the gift of...The D. [i.e. Disco Ball]

Pubbies raged against the D, and there is usually at least one thread every couple of weeks on the official forums demanding that Cryptic remove it from the game. Armed with the power of the D, you will go forth and bring the joy of Disco to all the pubbies, ERPists or otherwise. They will scream, they will shout, they will threaten. Yet the D is absolute."

And please don't try to play the "we only go after public ERPers" card. We both know it's a load of bull.
repetitiveepic wrote: �
And, it's almost completely a non-issue, since who pugs elite stfs that can be failed that way anyhow?

Downplaying the exact issue you yourself recognize is an issue and the very purpose of this thread. Doublethink much?
repetitiveepic wrote: �
"I dont like pink clothes" or "i dont like the party popper" or "i dont like to see women toons" or "i dont like the party ball" isnt even connected to griefing, its just a 'stop liking things i don't like' situation.

You mean like opening a thread asking the devs to change the Orion color palet to be green only because you didn't think they should not be green?

http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1205394/proposal-make-all-orions-green/p1

Sounds to me like you're taking the game too seriously. You might want to take a break.
repetitiveepic wrote: �
I guess calling it 'griefing' is better than calling it 'cyberbullying' like some do. Cyberbullying is a serious thing that has real world harmful effects on people.

"Cyberbullying" and "Griefing" both stem from the same mentality of "I'm going to @#&% with you and there is nothing you can do about it." That one takes it to further extremes than another is immaterial. Trying to split hairs over it is akin to saying assault should be legal so some people can slap others off the back of the head and not get in trouble for it. Either way someone is going out of their way to be disruptive and make people miserable and expects to suffer no ill consequence for it. Hardly a healthy attitude to promote, on or offline.

Will Wheaton said it best: "Don't be an d*ick." If you have a hard time following that simple axiom then the problem is with you, not the people you are being a d*ck to.

And before you launch into one of your patented idiot grin Gish Gallops, no I am not equating real life assault with party ball spamming. I am making an analogy to compare how foolish it is to tolerate one form of bad behavior because it is just slightly less than a worse form of bad behavior. I shouldn't need to explain that but this is you I'm dealing with.
repetitiveepic wrote: �
Either way, its dishonest hyperbole.

Again, after seeing your activities both in game and in the forum for so long I'm quite sure if anyone would know what dishonest hyperbole is it would be you.

Side note: These are the same folks Cryptic/PWI not only allowed into their offices, but accepted gifts from. If that sounds like a bit of a conflict of interests...it is.

# ? Dec 5, 2015 05:32

Conskill: May 7, 2007; I got an 'F' in Geometry.

hakimashou posted:

ALERT

Pubbie have seen in goon thread hide it all!

I, for one, have been convinced by the sage advice of Will Wheaton.

# ? Dec 5, 2015 05:52

AotC: May 16, 2010

hakimashou posted:

ALERT

Pubbie have seen in goon thread hide it all!

Welp, what ever you do don't mention the CSR website access that branflakes gave us before he left!

# ? Dec 5, 2015 06:11

hakimashou: Jul 15, 2002; Upset Trowel

I think the pubbies are having one of thier 'its the weekend! no rules on the forum!' fits, another one has joined in...

http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1207340/cryptic-needs-to-work-harder-on-anti-griefing#latest

the grand nagus one has some kind of tic or something that compels him, like a dog going after a ball, to constantly post stuff like

"oh so you dont like it when people complain well you're complaining about them so that makes you a hypocrite doesnt it NYYEEERRR NYEEERR GOTCHA GOTCHA :smug:

" and is a wannabe mod like that crazy romulan person.

not to be confused with Sub-Nagus Gooark who has earned his own :psyduck:

with special honors

hakimashou fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Dec 5, 2015

# ? Dec 5, 2015 06:44

Mondian: Apr 24, 2007

hakimashou posted:

Wow, what an insufferable twat.

# ? Dec 5, 2015 07:00

ugh its Troika: May 2, 2009; by FactsAreUseless

Hey pubbies, I'm griefing someone RIGHT NOW and there's nothing you can do about it :smug:

# ? Dec 5, 2015 08:23

Axe-man: Apr 16, 2005; The product of hundreds of hours of scientific investigation and research.

The perfect meatball.; Clapping Larry

-Troika- posted:

Hey pubbies, I'm griefing someone RIGHT NOW and there's nothing you can do about it

I just put up a disco ball in real life, does that make it a real crime :ohdear:

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Asimo: Sep 23, 2007

A war crime, you monster.

# ? Dec 5, 2015 08:40

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