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Require More Fire posted:I finally got to fight the Pat. Holy gently caress is he so much better than Hans. How do you think Tripwire should fix Hans? The thing that chaps my rear end with him is his melee charge. Don't have a melee weapon out? Haven't mastered the parry mechanic? Enjoy getting two-shotted!
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Azran posted:Get into a solo game and let yourself get killed by clots as soon as you begin, it seems that gives you a guaranteed drop the first time you do it. I got a box and I sold it for $5. I just tried this and got a common woodlands skin for my SCAR  So across ~7 hours of playing the new patch (online only, with some wins and some losses), I haven't gotten any drops otherwise. Would be curious to see what other people's experience with the drop system has been.
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Theta Zero posted:They'll also be permanently raged if you let them stay alive while they were one of the last five or so zeds remaining. Last 3 actually 
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moot the hopple posted:I just tried this and got a common woodlands skin for my SCAR Only drop I got was from my first death, and it was the common woodlands skin for the bullpup.
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So was pubbing it up on forest, was fun but uneventful until patty spawned. He got stuck on the rock's invisible walls, just like I do, trying to get at someone. He was stuck there until he decided to run away. Felt bad for him cause those invisible walls around rocks on that map seem to stick out too far, or not allow you to walk over small bits, which gets you cornered real easy. Anyways, he's on his last legs, patty stops points his gun up in the air and fires fireballs into the air. It's loving Armageddon for about 5 seconds. Explosions everywhere! My screen is constantly shaking and I was lucky to be standing in an area that didn't get too saturated with flaming death. Someone got vaporized real quick for standing in the wrong area and didn't move fast enough. It was awesome. Then he died, cause it is normal and everyone was pretty competent. Edit: I haven't gotten a single drop other than the one way mentioned in the thread. It was some kind of "crate" USB I guess. Sold it for $6.
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Require More Fire posted:Only drop I got was from my first death, and it was the common woodlands skin for the bullpup. Only drop I got was from my first death, and it was a common woodlands skin for the boomstick. I can see a pattern here.
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Snollygoster posted:How do you think Tripwire should fix Hans? The thing that chaps my rear end with him is his melee charge. Don't have a melee weapon out? Haven't mastered the parry mechanic? Enjoy getting two-shotted! I think they should put a time limit on his charge. say 3 seconds before he gives up and tosses grenades or pulls out his guns. That way you actually have a chance to out run him if you are quick and smart enough. And if you get caught it's your fault.
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Dec 5, 2015 21:03
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Hey Questioner, what's the deal with that Alienware KF2 promo? Is it a special cosmetic item if you buy a laptop or something?
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I think it'd be cool if matchmaking wouldn't drop you into a game that's midway through the boss wave. Also, a suitable compromise on Armament would be to let medic grenades repair armor again.
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Dec 5, 2015 23:24
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ZearothK posted:Only drop I got was from my first death, and it was a common woodlands skin for the boomstick. Same situation for me, but I got a black bandanna that sold for 30 cents or so.
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I got a ski mask.  If the drops are similar to other games expect a few days between drops + a few hours playtime required Things this update got right: Gunslinger is usable at level 0, unlike basically all earlier classes Gunslinger balance seems decent - but I'm low level so we'll see revolver twirling
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From my experience Gunslinger is a pretty solid class, specially at removing specialist zeds and using mobility to survive against swarms, the .500 is specially hilarious, I am still level 4 and I managed to kill four clots with a single shot, it is also pretty decent against Scrakes. Fleshpounds with their bullet resistance are pretty much the only thing the GS can't deal with reliably, with the caveat that I've only played the class on hard so far.
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Psion posted:I got a ski mask. We can be ski mask bros. I really like how the ski mask also makes some characters look absolutely furious while they're wearing it.
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Psion posted:I got a ski mask. When tripwire finds time, they really should implement continuous twirling by rapidly pressing the reload button. 
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It looks like Patriarch is resistant to basically all damage types, save for EMP and Microwave. In contrast, Hans is "only" vulnerable to toxic, EMP, slashing, and explosives. Patriarch loses EMP resistance, but gains resistance to fire, piercing, bludgeon, and ballistic. Both are pretty resistant to explosives, though, so lol if you like playing Demo for boss waves. E: And despite what it says in-game, both the datamined spreadsheet and the patch notes suggest that the "Rack 'em Up" skill is +10% per headshot. I think that might make it a competitive choice, but one that is dependent on the way each person wants to approach the perk. Overall, I think Gunslinger is really strong as far as competitive skill choices go. LuciferMorningstar fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Dec 6, 2015 |
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Patrick still isn't weak to explosives?
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Patrick still isn't weak to explosives? That's what the datamining guy says. But both bosses are weak to microwaves, so...
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 Technology has come so far.
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How do you sell drops? I don't see my yellow bandana in my Steam inventory, or any way to market it in-game... Also TW please move the flashlight source up and to the left/right so it looks like it's actually on our shoulders now and not strapped to the middle of our faces. One of the Brutal Doom mods does this and it adds a surprisingly immersive feeling for how simple a change it is. If you want to troll your own forums you could even make it so the character has to actually reach over to turn it on and off, interrupting firing their weapons for a brief moment. The pubbie tears, I can imagine them now 
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Single Gunslinger pistols are awesome backup wepons for classes like the Medic. When I play Medic, I try to get a Desert Eagle ASAP after purchasing the Medic AR because it's the perfect mix of cost, power, ammo reserve, and reload speed for a sidearm.
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Takes No Damage posted:How do you sell drops? I don't see my yellow bandana in my Steam inventory, or any way to market it in-game... It should be in your inventory under killing floor 2. Mine was. Then I had to log in to my steam email to finalize it.
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so, not to reiterate the problem, but Hans has been in his current broken state for how many months? Unfixed? e: Something else to consider is a Gunslinger will have six primary weapons and on death, lose a minimum of five. It hits harder than any other class. Fix this please. Psion fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Dec 6, 2015 |
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Dec 6, 2015 07:32
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Unfun doesn't equal broken.
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At least we got Pat now!
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Vahakyla posted:Unfun doesn't equal broken. Hans is both, so it's not a relevant distinction at the moment
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She Bangs the Drums posted:At least we got Pat now! And Patriarch is a convenient demonstration of why Hans is bad boss design. He has distinct phases, like Hans, but in those phases he gives the players a chance to catch their breath - regroup, reload, hit the syringe. He's tough but you can manage him. That's a real point in favor of Patriarch, at least, being Tripwire learning from their mistakes. Good! Now if they'd retroactively apply that lesson to Hans... on the other hand, Patriarch punching a guy from 80+ health and 20 armor straight into death is pretty bad. Gonna hope that's a bug.
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I didn't know the player's movement slows down the lower their health is, that's a weird and pretty crappy design choice given that it just causes enemies to catch up easier and deal more damage through no real fault of your own.
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Vahakyla posted:Unfun doesn't equal broken. Dying in a single hit at 90 health when Hans melee rushes you IS broken, this is on hard mind you, I assume on HoE a Hans melee swipe will kill a 100/100 player instantly. The rest of his damage is fine, its his melee that needs to be tuned.
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Are those goon servers in the OP still running? I tried joining them via open 104.156.246.12:7777 in the console but nothing happens.
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Are those goon servers in the OP still running? I tried joining them via open 104.156.246.12:7777 in the console but nothing happens. No, the owner of those got permaed. 
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Alteisen posted:Dying in a single hit at 90 health when Hans melee rushes you IS broken, this is on hard mind you, I assume on HoE a Hans melee swipe will kill a 100/100 player instantly. Hans is more lethal on higher difficulties, to be sure, but when you start at "extremely lethal," increasing the damage doesn't have much substantive impact. It's just overkill at that point.
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Are those goon servers in the OP still running? I tried joining them via open 104.156.246.12:7777 in the console but nothing happens. DreamShipWrecked used to run one of them but I think he let it lapse. The other one was ran by a dude who got permabanned for some shady poo poo, which also lapsed.
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Has it always been that when firing automatics from the hip, the bullets will sometime go off center directed upwards? It looks like the bullets are coming out at odd angles for a split second then return to normal. Really messes things up when trying to use the medic smg cause you pull down compensate, but then your bullets start going straight again and now you are shooting at feet. I don't remember ever seeing it ever before.
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Psion posted:No, the owner of those got permaed. Oh okay. Is there any common servers goons run on? I wanna level Funslinger but I don't really wanna play with pugs much longer
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Broose posted:It should be in your inventory under killing floor 2. Mine was. Then I had to log in to my steam email to finalize it. Pffffffffffft thanks, the only other other game with marketable items I have is TF2 and I haven't touched that in years, I didn't remember that it creates a new tab for each game. I'm about to get an internet upgrade, if TW ever releases the server software for Linux I could probably stand up a simple one on a spare Lubuntu box and leave it in the corner or something. I'll keep an eye on things.
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Broose posted:Has it always been that when firing automatics from the hip, the bullets will sometime go off center directed upwards? It looks like the bullets are coming out at odd angles for a split second then return to normal. Really messes things up when trying to use the medic smg cause you pull down compensate, but then your bullets start going straight again and now you are shooting at feet. I don't remember ever seeing it ever before. Dunno about automatics but boy. LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MEDIC DARTS. I mean they are fine when you fire them locked on, but sometimes there's no time to lock on and the guy is straight in front of me, so I try to fire anyway. Then the game decides that this was not what I wanted and makes the darts shoot towards one point on a map, no idea what it is, but it's always someplace high. So chances of hitting the player I wanted to heal are pretty slim. Orange Crush Rush posted:Oh okay. Is there any common servers goons run on? I wanna level Funslinger but I don't really wanna play with pugs much longer Get on mumble, grab some people, form a party, find a server through matchmaking or the server browser. Until we get listen servers, this is the only way to play with your buddies reliably.
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LuciferMorningstar posted:It looks like Patriarch is resistant to basically all damage types, save for EMP and Microwave. In contrast, Hans is "only" vulnerable to toxic, EMP, slashing, and explosives. Patriarch loses EMP resistance, but gains resistance to fire, piercing, bludgeon, and ballistic. Both are pretty resistant to explosives, though, so lol if you like playing Demo for boss waves. Demo occupies the "good at killing trash" niche, but whoops it turns out that everyone is good at killing trash, because it's trash
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Demo occupies the "good at killing trash" niche, but whoops it turns out that everyone is good at killing trash, because it's trash I still never understood the "but it's good at killing trash!" logic behind demo and commando for that very reason. Demo at least has some utility because he can take out Fleshpounds easily, and maybe groups of zeds (but it's essentially just a race to see who can kill everything first with so many classes being good at crowd control). Now that gunslinger is here to literally one-shot just about everything that commandos excelled at killing and almost being able to solo large zeds, it only casts an even more glaring light on the issue of how unhelpful a commando is to the team when there's simply just better options. When you look at class distribution in teams, you look at what's missing and think, "No demo? Fleshpounds are going to be an issue," or "They don't have a medic, they're going to have problems with health." When there's a support, you think "Oh, that's going to make damage dealing easier. Especially if he shares ammo." I don't think anyone has ever thought "Oh man, we don't have a commando, now who's going to kill trash?" or "Thank goodness, a commando! Now I won't have to worry about stalkers!"
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Theta Zero posted:I still never understood the "but it's good at killing trash!" logic behind demo and commando for that very reason. Demo at least has some utility because he can take out Fleshpounds easily, and maybe groups of zeds (but it's essentially just a race to see who can kill everything first with so many classes being good at crowd control). Now that gunslinger is here to literally one-shot just about everything that commandos excelled at killing and almost being able to solo large zeds, it only casts an even more glaring light on the issue of how unhelpful a commando is to the team when there's simply just better options. Yeah, with Gunslinger out now, Commando is going to need some kind of overhaul to it. Between Firebug and Gunslinger, they just don't have much of a job anymore.
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