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Every time I hear or read someone got "fired" I rage out because that's not how termination works
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Cojawfee posted:This is the worst part about the military. Sometimes you have to fire someone but it's not possible. We had a maliciously incompetent LPO (E-6 in charge of daily divisional affairs for you non-navy folks) and leadership (both officer and enlisted) knew it but no one wanted to be responsible for "ruining her career" so they just let poo poo slide. She made chief and was terrible at it so then she became an officer and at least if you're a terrible butter bar that's really all that's expected of you.
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Dec 7, 2015 15:21
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:seems fun until you have to do it for hours on end. range 400 loving sucks and then when it is dark as poo poo after you've been doing dumb poo poo for 14 hours (10+ hours of just sitting around) you go police your brass and don't get home until after midnight, and since your platoon sergeant knows you will come up short on brass weight, sends the platoon back out to the range at 6am to get the rest. and then you get yelled at anyway because the next unit that has to do the live fire is already there, and you have 12 swinging dicks from your platoon standing in the middle of where they are trying to shoot. and the cycle continues endlessly.
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Dec 7, 2015 15:52
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Ranges suck and the policing brass poo poo sucks mainly because the ASP requires a certain amount of weight to be turned in, and they scan for rocks, sand filled brass and live rounds. If you don't hit that mark you have to go back out to the range and do it again. Also no more ranges for me.
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Dec 7, 2015 17:36
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Thump! posted:That's a shame. We're the instructors just not aware that you're not supposed to give airmen guns or what? The vast majority of people there were army infantry and scouts, they had 2-3 marines there and then half a dozen air force people. Leave it to the air force to ruin the one cool thing that the guard let a few privileged people do once. Not to rag only on the air force, there's plenty of dumb servicemen and women in each branch, but on that day specifically. 
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Dec 7, 2015 17:52
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heh, picking up brass isn't even all that bad how about having to find heh grenade pins on maneuver lanes 
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Dec 7, 2015 21:35
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Cole posted:and then when it is dark as poo poo after you've been doing dumb poo poo for 14 hours (10+ hours of just sitting around) you go police your brass and don't get home until after midnight, and since your platoon sergeant knows you will come up short on brass weight, sends the platoon back out to the range at 6am to get the rest. and then you get yelled at anyway because the next unit that has to do the live fire is already there, and you have 12 swinging dicks from your platoon standing in the middle of where they are trying to shoot. some shithead will almost invariably lose their a barrel or peq2 or their nods or some other piece of serialized gear and wont tell their team leader until hours later when it comes up missing during accountability 
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Dec 7, 2015 22:21
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This reminds me of the time a guy in my unit tried to steal an m16 during AT. Another soldier had reported it missing after he assumed it was secured in his bunk and the brigade wide search party began until, for some really odd reason, in the ceiling tiles above the dude who stole it, there it was. They ended up rummaging through all of the guys equipment and found a bunch of bayonets, 2 CLS bags and whatever optics that the army uses, aimpoints I believe? Yeah, that was the talk of the AT. The last AT was neat, where we had our new guy who transferred units pop hot for Meth and he didn't get kicked out for about 2 months but was forced to drill with us. Like he didn't participate in anything but he went with us to the chow hall and in the barracks, but was essentially on lock-down. Halfways through AT he was acting even weirder than usual, and we found him filling up his camelback in the chow hall with orange juice. hoooooooaaaahhhhhhhhh
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Dec 7, 2015 22:47
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Reminds me of the time we went to Ft. Pickett and lost an M4. The Marines were there too doing their own thing, and everyone was out of the barracks doing whatever except for sniper section, who was pretty much just chilling out for the day. Everyone had their M4s slung on the bedposts while they were in, and I guess whoever was watching things went to take a poo poo. When he came back, no M4. According to the story, some upstanding young never-do-foul Marines simply found the M4 magically in a ditch next to the barracks and figured hey, this is probably important, should probably take this back to the barracks. Apparently they had the M4 for a day or two while our unit was having the wrath of god brought down on us- the ATF was about to get involved if it couldn't be found by the Army since I guess Pickett is so close to the state line and it would have made it be in federal jurisdiction had it been smuggled away. Word got out to the Marines that the Army wasn't just doing hands across America and duffel dumps every hour on the hour because it was fun, and they realized that hey, this M4 might be the one missing! I guess whoever had it got really loving scared of possible consequences, so instead of being like "here you go, here's your M4 back that we found and totally didn't steal", they hid it in a rusty locker in the middle of the woods and assumed we would find it eventually. Which was interesting, because we had checked over this random-rear end locker in the middle of the loving forest like 3 times already so it obviously was put there by somebody who knew what was going on. Only problem was the M4 had been stripped of its laser and optic. I think we ended up just writing it off since everyone was a little fatigued from the stress of having the Feds potentially coming down on the unit, but I know deep down the Marines stole that poo poo. It was funny, command was getting so desperate they ended up treating everyone like a suspect and had both an anonymous tip box, 24/7 confession tent, and CID interviewed each and every person in the unit. Towards the end, if I remember correctly, the CO even promised amnesty even if you did purposefully steal it. It was the most intense lost sensitive item buttfuckery I have ever witnessed. Justin Tyme fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Dec 7, 2015 |
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Dec 7, 2015 23:00
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:some shithead will almost invariably lose their a barrel or peq2 or their nods or some other piece of serialized gear and wont tell their team leader until hours later when it comes up missing during accountability We had a guy hand his NODs off to someone to use. And then that guy handed them off to someone else to use. And three hours later in the dark we are looking for NODs on the range even though somebody has them, we just don't know who. And nobody had the foresight to make the HQ guys that came with us bring their own poo poo.
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Dec 7, 2015 23:02
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CO left his M9 on the redeployment plane after 12 months in Afghanistan, it turned up in Alaska 18 hours later which we spent dumping our bags and rucks in the company HQ, under lockdown, as our families waited outside.
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Cole posted:We had a guy hand his NODs off to someone to use. And then that guy handed them off to someone else to use. And three hours later in the dark we are looking for NODs on the range even though somebody has them, we just don't know who. This is why things get dummy-corded!  Zeris posted:CO left his M9 on the redeployment plane after 12 months in Afghanistan, it turned up in Alaska 18 hours later which we spent dumping our bags and rucks in the company HQ, under lockdown, as our families waited outside. I'm still not sure why they even bother giving officers a pistol.
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Dec 8, 2015 01:07
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And to think they used to let you take pistols and poo poo off your vanquished foes and just toss it into your duffel bag when you got sent home
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Dec 8, 2015 01:15
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It's all fun and games until you find a bag of gold teeth in pop-pops foot locker.
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Zeris posted:CO left his M9 on the redeployment plane after 12 months in Afghanistan, it turned up in Alaska 18 hours later which we spent dumping our bags and rucks in the company HQ, under lockdown, as our families waited outside. too bad it was a couple days too late to frag that sorry gently caress
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Dec 8, 2015 01:41
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LingcodKilla posted:It's all fun and games until you find a bag of gold teeth in pop-pops foot locker. And then it's even more fun and games. Have you seen the price of gold lately? You just KNOW some dude at one of those cash-for-gold places got a package full of 1930s and 40s dental work some vet's grandson sent in and just went "what the gently caress"
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Dec 8, 2015 02:12
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My dentist straight up told me he saves any gold fillings he has to remove for part of his retirement.
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LingcodKilla posted:It's all fun and games until you find a bag of gold teeth in pop-pops foot locker. Hey their former owners weren't using them anymore!
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Dec 8, 2015 02:44
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gear adrift must be a gift i hope the dude who was suppose to be gear guard for that m4 was crucified
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Fart Sandwiches posted:We had a maliciously incompetent LPO (E-6 in charge of daily divisional affairs for you non-navy folks) and leadership (both officer and enlisted) knew it but no one wanted to be responsible for "ruining her career" so they just let poo poo slide. She made chief and was terrible at it so then she became an officer and at least if you're a terrible butter bar that's really all that's expected of you. Did her last name start with a P and end with an N?
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I remember reading a story here about a lost M9 in Iraq/Afg that lead to something like 2 deaths and a crashed helo searching for it. Does anyone remember that?
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Dec 8, 2015 02:55
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I'm pretty sure someone posted it in this thread somewhere.
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Dingleberry posted:Did her last name start with a P and end with an N? I only remember her last name but it was windham and she sucked. Also doesn't surprise me that it's a common thing in the military.
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Not exactly a lost gun story (and I know I've posted it before) but I knew a captain who, during an argument with a SNCO set his M9 on the table between them and said something to the effect of "Well I'm an officer."
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Cojawfee posted:I'm pretty sure someone posted it in this thread somewhere. Google points to about here may require archives? I liked the part where it was easier to crash two helicopters and kill a bunch of Americans than to do the "poo poo got lost" paperwork.
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pkells posted:I remember reading a story here about a lost M9 in Iraq/Afg that lead to something like 2 deaths and a crashed helo searching for it. Does anyone remember that? http://www.socnet.com/archive/index.php/t-83469.html Two OH58Ds (Kiowas) were tasked to search for a lost M9 in the dark, received enemy small arms fire and crashed into each other during evasive maneuvers. It was my old unit on the deployment before I joined them. For reference, the thermal optics on Kiowas are late Cold War-era tech calibrated to Soviet tank heat signatures. You know the drill -- Kiowa scouts the tanks, conducts handoff to an Apache which pops over a crest to shoot a hellfire and dips back down. Kiowa optics weren't worth poo poo in OEF, and according to the pilots I worked with, OIF wasn't any better.
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The Slithery D posted:Thanks for reminding me of this bit of epic stupidity. From the proverbial horse's mouth.
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That Kiowa story is a wonderful thing, minus the casualties.
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I don't even get angry about it anymore.
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Godholio posted:Not exactly a lost gun story (and I know I've posted it before) but I knew a captain who, during an argument with a SNCO set his M9 on the table between them and said something to the effect of "Well I'm an officer." Is that your "and then the crazy officer pulled a gun on the SNCO" story or is there another one? Because I feel like you've got another one but maybe I'm mashing Godholio's Wild and Wacky AWACS Adventures together
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Justin Tyme posted:heh, picking up brass isn't even all that bad This is terrible. I shot 10,000 rounds of 7.62 in a day and I didn't have to clean up poo poo.
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I had one where a private went Ricky Bobby when deployed and flagged a bunch of NCO and Brass. I posted it earlier I am sure.
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Also, the Netherlands shooting range as loving tits. Better than the Germans. We were out there with nothing except a LBE. We got a demonstration by the officer, like a LTC or something in our system, smoking loving cigar the entire time. 20/20. poo poo was amazing.
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iyaayas01 posted:Is that your "and then the crazy officer pulled a gun on the SNCO" story or is there another one? Because I feel like you've got another one but maybe I'm mashing Godholio's Wild and Wacky AWACS Adventures together Same story. But that guy factored into several other stories...making GBS threads directly in front of his SERE team, almost starting a fire at FL290, losing his qual for almost causing a midair...
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https://www.facebook.com/dan.gardner.961/videos/10101038800913374/ some context: -theyre all mormons so they dont curse -this is in afghanistan on the helmand river. 2nd lar arrived in july when the river was at its lowest. by december or january(when the video was shot), the river was higher and faster to the point that it couldn't be swam. -a few days earlier, a 7ton had sank in the same area. it wasn't recovered while i was there. these guys are trying to go from the bn fob to their companys cop across the river with laundry, muffins and ripits. except the guy in charge wasn't school trained so he didn't know what the gently caress he was doing. left the hull plugs of the bottom of the vic and sank it in the helmand. the vehicle didn't leave bn maint the rest of the deployment and the ssgt vehicle commander somehow avoided an njp. he just spent the rest of the deployment as the camp guard sgt.
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:https://www.facebook.com/dan.gardner.961/videos/10101038800913374/ thanks 4 their service
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:https://www.facebook.com/dan.gardner.961/videos/10101038800913374/ Wait shouldn't there be a bridge or a ford or something? Seems like a bad idea if a company is separated from support by an hard to cross river, or there is a bridge just out of shot but they decided for funsies to use the boat mode on their vehicle.
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It seemed like it was riding low as soon as it entered the water...is that how it's supposed to sit?
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Well, I suppose that's one way to stay inside the wire the rest of deployment. There's no way he didn't destroy that for funsies.
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Chillyrabbit posted:Wait shouldn't there be a bridge or a ford or something? Seems like a bad idea if a company is separated from support by an hard to cross river, or there is a bridge just out of shot but they decided for funsies to use the boat mode on their vehicle. after they discovered that 6 months out of the year the helmand is too deep to ford and fast to swim, they got some army bridging company to run a pontoon bridge. when the unit we relieved got there in july, the water was lower. not caring here posted:Well, I suppose that's one way to stay inside the wire the rest of deployment. dude was pretty dumb. Godholio posted:It seemed like it was riding low as soon as it entered the water...is that how it's supposed to sit? yes
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