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Branis posted:Has there been any evidence the FBI has foiled one plot that they themselves didn't plan and fund? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsuccessful_terrorist_plots_in_the_United_States_post-9/11
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The Iron Rose posted:It's a wartime decision the judiciary has no place in the military chain of command. When it comes to dropping a drone missile on US citizens? Sounds like we need some kind of Brownshirt analogy for the left... Beigesuit perhaps.
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zoux posted:Oh yeah for sure, Islamophobia is real, strong and not our friend. But to treat this Trump thing as anything but the basest pandering, well. I like that the argument is really nothing more than "no, you"
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THE BOMBINATRIX posted:I guess Voldemort was just a huge pussy then? Obama's the huge pussy or don't you watch Fox News?
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zoux posted:Obama's the huge pussy or don't you watch Fox News? Nice. But that goes without saying.
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zoux posted:I cannot stress how much Trump's Muslim ban isn't happening, not even if he were president, so no one should be terrified. People aren't worried about the ban actually happening so much as they are worried about the mobs of scared, angry white people being told that it's perfectly okay to bathe uninhibited in their bigotry and hatred against a minority group, and that their Muslim neighbors are an existential threat.
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What wouldn't make Obama a pussy in the eyes of Fox News? Him leading a heavy calvary march from Islamabad to Mecca, slaying all in his path?
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Lol nope, he was a magic user and thus subhuman and deserving only of death, the same as monarchs and aristocrats.
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DemeaninDemon posted:What wouldn't make Obama a pussy in the eyes of Fox News? Him leading a heavy calvary march from Islamabad to Mecca, slaying all in his path? I guarantee you if Obama had come out with a knife in his teeth promising the blood of all Islamists, Fox would have criticized him for overreacting or being too bellicose.
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Bip Roberts posted:I know there are left wing vax deniers but are there more than the right wing vax deniers? It used to be heavily a leftist thing due to association with extreme fringe people of the environmentalists movement, but I don't know if it still is, since a buncha mainstream republicans have started advocating it
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zoux posted:I guarantee you if Obama had come out with a knife in his teeth promising the blood of all Islamists, Fox would have criticized him for overreacting or being too bellicose. Isn't that exactly what happened when Obama proposed sending troops to intervene in the Syrian Civil War
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Radbot posted:Do we have any evidence that this surveillance is effective, or that it does indeed need to be done to "run a nation of this size"? When I did CT work for the WJF a couple years back when the PRISM leaks started, I remember chatting with a colleague of mine. He said to me, and this is true in my experience, that preemptive, random surveillance is almost useless as a preventative measure. It's far more useful when we already have someone in our sights.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:When it comes to dropping a drone missile on US citizens? Sounds like we need some kind of Brownshirt analogy for the left... Beigesuit perhaps. Yes, the judiciary has time and again has ruled that it itself has no place in the chain of command. You can object to drone strikes all you want, but they're not extrajudicial in the conventional sense because the judiciary quite literally has no role to play.
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zoux posted:I guarantee you if Obama had come out with a knife in his teeth promising the blood of all Islamists, Fox would have criticized him for overreacting or being too bellicose. What if Obama recognized he was wrong at nearly every step, completely underestimated ISIS when they were forming, called them contained a month ago, said they weren't a threat here two weeks ago, and admitted that "we're going to do more of what we've been doing, trust me it's fine" is milquetoast and nobody believes it?
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Radbot posted:So what's the smug "gotta break some eggs to make an omelette" attitude about? I fail to see how "maybe one time it worked" rises to the level of "inconvenient truth". Smug? Nah man. I just find it odd that anyone pretends to be surprised about it. Spying and general espionage, foreign and domestic, has been going on for as long as we've been using bronze tools.
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fishmech posted:It used to be heavily a leftist thing due to association with extreme fringe people of the environmentalists movement, but I don't know if it still is, since a buncha mainstream republicans have started advocating it But anti-vaxing has also always been a part of the John Birch type (or Alex Jones today) anti-goverment types and mark-of-the-beast fringe Christians.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:What if Obama recognized he was wrong at nearly every step, completely underestimated ISIS when they were forming, called them contained a month ago, said they weren't a threat here two weeks ago, and admitted that "we're going to do more of what we've been doing, trust me it's fine" is milquetoast and nobody believes it? "Nobody believes it." 
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DemeaninDemon posted:What wouldn't make Obama a pussy in the eyes of Fox News? Him leading a heavy calvary march from Islamabad to Mecca, slaying all in his path?
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TheDisreputableDog posted:What if Obama recognized he was wrong at nearly every step, completely underestimated ISIS when they were forming, called them contained a month ago, said they weren't a threat here two weeks ago, and admitted that "we're going to do more of what we've been doing, trust me it's fine" is milquetoast and nobody believes it? What if you learned how to do a minor amount of research into those quotes and learn what context means?
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TheDisreputableDog posted:What if Obama recognized he was wrong at nearly every step, completely underestimated ISIS when they were forming, called them contained a month ago, said they weren't a threat here two weeks ago, and admitted that "we're going to do more of what we've been doing, trust me it's fine" is milquetoast and nobody believes it? I mean this is basically accurate.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:What if Obama recognized he was wrong at nearly every step, completely underestimated ISIS when they were forming, called them contained a month ago, said they weren't a threat here two weeks ago, and admitted that "we're going to do more of what we've been doing, trust me it's fine" is milquetoast and nobody believes it? This is accurate. Also it's not like the US wants to completely crush ISIS. They've got a new boogeyman to point to that they can actually drop bombs on! It's like free money for the MIC. They never had that with the USSR/Russia.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:What if Obama recognized he was wrong at nearly every step, completely underestimated ISIS when they were forming, called them contained a month ago, said they weren't a threat here two weeks ago, and admitted that "we're going to do more of what we've been doing, trust me it's fine" is milquetoast and nobody believes it? We bombed some folks. Edit: don't discount the wet fart either. He wants to see if sand glows. Islam is the Lite Rock FM fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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 It's funny watching all the other candidates furiously repudiating and criticizing Trump while no one pays attention to them. The man knows how to dominate a media cycle, which may be the only currency that matters anymore.
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Bip Roberts posted:I know there are left wing vax deniers but are there more than the right wing vax deniers? My understanding is that it started off as a far-left thing because CHEMICALS, but the moment centrists started suggesting the government might mandate certain vaccines it became a far-right thing because MEN WITH GUNS, a la ddees 
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You also have specific vaccines the right wing doesn't want to become prevalent like Gardasil (because sluts).
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zoux posted:
Carly Fiorina trying to ride the coattails of the marketing campaign for that Krampus movie.
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Mitt Romney posted:What if you learned how to do a minor amount of research into those quotes and learn what context means? Oh also he got fired up and nasty with reporters and Christie in the wake of Paris instead of, you know, terrorists. He's either already checked out or he's living in a bubble. San Bernadino is basically the vanguard of something bigger, and people want to know how to keep themselves safe while we patiently wait for whatever ten year plan he cooked up is coming to fruition.
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Hulk Krogan posted:Carly Fiorina trying to ride the coattails of the marketing campaign for that Krampus movie. That seems a little self serving
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I have had a lot of vacation this month and as a result, this thread seems to be moving at light speed. I haven't heard Trump talk in forever, but whenever I read article headlines about what he's saying: I'm getting more and more of a Morton Downey Jr. vibe from him.
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Hulk Krogan posted:Carly Fiorina trying to ride the coattails of the marketing campaign for that Krampus movie. Yeah the famous Kramp Bump. nachos posted:What a low energy tweet There was a video I didn't watch attached to it as well. I wonder if Fiorina is mad that her blatant lying didn't work but Trump's is.
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Muscle Tracer posted:My understanding is that it started off as a far-left thing because CHEMICALS, but the moment centrists started suggesting the government might mandate certain vaccines it became a far-right thing because MEN WITH GUNS, a la ddees I know a mother from college who vaccinated against schedule because she didn't want the MAN telling her what to do. We've since drifted apart and I cut her out of my social media for posting Allen West stuff.
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THE BOMBINATRIX posted:I guess Voldemort was just a huge pussy then? It isn't even an apt comparison because we already have a Voldemort in Rick Scott.
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Branis posted:Has there been any evidence the FBI has foiled one plot that they themselves didn't plan and fund? Would the recent shootings be FBI planned if they were arrested trying to buy fully automatic weapons from an agent?
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TheDisreputableDog posted:San Bernadino is basically the vanguard of something bigger, and people want to know how to keep themselves safe while we patiently wait for whatever ten year plan he cooked up is coming to fruition.  this is the best post you've ever made.
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It's pretty clear the government has not been able to change their policies fast enough to deal with the changing strategies of terrorists.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Oh also he got fired up and nasty with reporters and Christie in the wake of Paris instead of, you know, terrorists. *Bernardino
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COMING TO A THEATER NEAR YOU THIS HOLIDAY SEASON STARRING CARLY FIORINA AS THE LUMP OF COAL IN A STOCKING
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